Did Lisa's Mom do it? Poll

[In da Middle]

As I stated in another thread, I fell over off the fence this morning. She's been caught in a lie that should never have had anything to do with her missing daughter if she was completely innocent. And why is she still hiding? Come out with it.

MOO :twocents:

I might be missing something, but what lie was she caught in? We don't know if she told them about the store or not. We don't know who the supposed 'unknown' man is or if it even means anything if that is what you are referring to.

 

[LandAuxvasse]

I might be missing something, but what lie was she caught in? We don't know if she told them about the store or not. We don't know who the supposed 'unknown' man is or if it even means anything if that is what you are referring to.

Yup, I know that now... which is why I'm climbing back up the fence... :crazy:

MOO :twocents:

 

[pinkfly]

I am too ‘on the fence’ to even vote for the fence. I just plain do not want it to be a parent so my brain is rebelling at the idea. Grocery store wine and guy video is hard to understand right now though. She is married to one guy, living with and parenting with another, and she has time to meet a guy. She does not make herself look good but I am trying not to judge based on that.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I'm leaning toward the idea that DB did something irresponsible that lead to the death of Lisa, and she's now in cover-up mode. She seems genuinely distraught, but my gut feeling is that she's distraught from whatever happened, not distraught because she thinks her daughter was abducted.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I'm firmly planted on the fence, but if Mom is involved, I think Dad knows, too. I do not think DB is solely responsible.

 

[Jack]

On the fence but leaning heavily toward the 'mom is hiding something' side. I just have a hunch she's hiding something. I don't know what, but obviously it would have something to do with knowledge or participation in the disappearance of little Lisa, if she were indeed hiding something. I'm still stuck on the whole 'phones were missing' thing. My first thought was how convenient that the phones were missing, to have an excuse for delayed reporting. I kind of also suspect that if she is hiding something that the lights were on because she was going to claim the baby had been taken by force and she couldn't call anyone because the phones were taken too, but then the plan changed at the last minute because she panicked when hubby pulled into driveway and ran off to bed so he wouldn't see her face before realizing his baby girl was gone.

Of course at this point its just speculation.

 

[askfornina]

OMG this case is becoming my full time job. i slept for 6 hours and i wake up to a ton of new things. i was going to sleep longer but i don't think i'll be able to catch up if i do! lol.

i am still sitting on this fence. i'm not prepared to jump off until there is some more actual evidence released. i SO understand the need to speculate and by all means, carry on! i'm going to have to start writing down everything that is confirmed for SURE though because sometimes all the speculation distorts the facts for me. praying for Lisa's safe return!!

 

[Jack]

JMOO, I am leaning to mom is guilty of something.......hiding an accident,
not a diliberate act, I pray.

PF, I sort of have that feeling to but not just hiding an accident. I think the only reason to cover up an accident is if it occurred while someone was doing something they shouldn't be doing. So if an accident is being hidden, there is probably really something bigger than the accident actually being hidden.

 

[theBritster]

I'm on the fence but leaning towards the mom (and dad?) having something to do with it. The missing cellphones raise a red flag. Either the mom/dad got rid of them because there's something incriminating on them or the kidnapper stole them with the intent of using them, which would be pretty dumb? All jmo.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I can't speak for anyone else, but when I sit on a fence too long, my bottom begins to hurt I hopped off sometime over the weekend after watching more interviews with DB and JI and generally catching up on media reports.

 

[Chris_Texas]

I voted mom before noticing the on-the-fence option. That said, based on what we know at present Mom is the most (or only) likely suspect.

 

[iluvmua]

I heard a snippet of an interview and the mother says (paraphrasing) " The one time I leave the door unlocked and he does not get home until 4 A.M. (or something along those lines). "

They know....... I'm saying they did it and they are covering for one another.

Everything is just too lining in to place for this to be a coincidence

 

[w1df10wr]

I don't want to believe the mom had anything to do with it, yet I think someone in the house knows what happened. I voted for on the fence.

 

[miabellamoure]

I'm not usually known to be a fence sitter but, I am this time.

Something is definitely not kosher here and unfortunately...my gaze is on Momma at the moment.

 

[LisaB]

Taking cell phones that could be used to track your location makes no sense. And thinking that taking the phones would prevent a call being made when "Dad" has a work cell phone as well, seems like a wasted effort. This only makes sense if the "kidnapper" anticipated "Mom" waking to check on the child BEFORE "Dad" got home from work at 4am and being unable to make a call until he arrived.

It is odd that "Dad" checked the boys' room first and the missing boy did not alarm him. He did not even go to "Mom" first to check to see if he was there. Actually, with as little as we know for sure, maybe he DID, and this is why she seems so confused when she says "I woke up, we woke up" stuff... In other words, J woke D, perhaps unintentionally, looking for the son, who was in the bed with her; then went to check on the baby, waking D intentionally when Lisa was not found. So she woke twice, and her son was awakened the second time as well.

The boys are (I believe) NOT J&B's sons together, but one of each of theirs. The statements that Lisa "ties the family together" would suggest to me that she is believed to be the biological child of the two of them together. Many "stepfamilies" produce an "our child" to help unite the family.

It is possible that J was questioning Lisa's paternity (as evidenced by his comment "a woman who cheated on her husb..." and his "coldness" toward D). Lisa could have conveniently "disappeared" before paternity could be confirmed. In this case, she could have been harmed, or simply "given away" (to the baby's biological dad? A relative?) but will NOT be returned to the parents, as long as the mother also suspects the baby may not be J's.

If the relationship was in jeopardy (particularly if it hinged on the issue of paternity), D may have hidden the child (Did she have some texts at 2:30am from her brother? Who was the man at the store?) with someone she trusted to try to bring her husband closer to her through the shared tragedy, with the plan being that Lisa would be recovered unharmed and the family reunited with any prior bad feelings forgotten. This plan may have hit a snag if they are being watched closely.

ESPECIALLY if things have been rocky at home, she may realize the baby actually WAS the only thing holding the family together. If this is the case, she may attempt to become pregnant (FOR SURE by J) while Lisa is being sought; thereby producing a new "tie" between the families.

Just rambling.

 

[Codger]

OMG this case is becoming my full time job. i slept for 6 hours and i wake up to a ton of new things. i was going to sleep longer but i don't think i'll be able to catch up if i do! lol.

i am still sitting on this fence. i'm not prepared to jump off until there is some more actual evidence released. i SO understand the need to speculate and by all means, carry on! i'm going to have to start writing down everything that is confirmed for SURE though because sometimes all the speculation distorts the facts for me. praying for Lisa's safe return!!

Still on the fence here too. I believe someone/s in the home were involved or at the very least have knowledge. Beyond that :waitasec:

O/T - :dance: Great siggy line! For the era Twin Peaks aired I was addicted. Hard to believe "now", it was such an uproar they showed a "corpse" on TV.

 

[Chris_Texas]

One thing I have found very interesting with this case is the lengths some are willing to go to dismiss mom as a likely suspect. One could probably write an entire book on this topic alone.

Mothers and attractive women are presumed innocent
Adult males are suspicious
Step-Dads and young guys are presumed guilty

I am kidding of course, but only a bit. For example, review any thread on this case and not a page will go by without someone mentioning the sinister TEEN. Or, if any video capture shows a male out of uniform someone always posts something about how the picture gave them the creeps, and someone else will ask if it might not be that evil teen mentioned above (shiver!).

The reality as I see it is this: there is NOTHING in mom's story that makes even the slightest bit of sense. Silent intruders? Unlocked doors? Lights are on? No one heard a thing? Cell phones AND a baby "stolen"? Dog didn't bark? Mysterious migrating boys? etc

 

[darnudes]

I've thought for the past few days that it is definitely the Mum and the Dad is clueless - in an Adam Baker kinda way, although I still say that Baker was a lying so and so.

I was also feeling bad for being so cynical and not giving the Mum the benefit of the doubt - I think there are just too many of these cases now and people can't believe anyone any more which is really sad.

 

[iluvmua]

One thing I have found very interesting with this case is the lengths some are willing to go to dismiss mom as a likely suspect. One could probably write an entire book on this topic alone.

Mothers and attractive women are presumed innocent
Adult males are suspicious
Step-Dads and young guys are presumed guilty

I am kidding of course, but only a bit. For example, review any thread on this case and not a page will go by without someone mentioning the sinister TEEN. Or, if any video capture shows a male out of uniform someone always posts something about how the picture gave them the creeps, and someone else will ask if it might not be that evil teen mentioned above (shiver!).

The reality as I see it is this: there is NOTHING in mom's story that makes even the slightest bit of sense. Silent intruders? Unlocked doors? Lights are on? No one heard a thing? Cell phones AND a baby "stolen"? Dog didn't bark? Mysterious migrating boys? etc

Exactly! Whatever happened, happened in that house under the watch of one or both parents.....

According to Dad the "Intruder" must have entered through the unlocked front door since the widow was not tampered with.....

 

[wfgodot]

I've thought for the past few days that it is definitely the Mum and the Dad is clueless - in an Adam Baker kinda way, although I still say that Baker was a lying so and so.

I was also feeling bad for being so cynical and not giving the Mum the benefit of the doubt - I think there are just too many of these cases now and people can't believe anyone any more which is really sad.

Yes, I also compared it with Z.'s in thinking about the apparent family dynamics of the situation. If one did it and the other really didn't know in this case, all signs point to mom.

Still officially on the fence though.