Thanx, CDS22. That's one article I had not seen. Interesting that it doesn't mention Max at all, just the teens. If someone wants to take a break in a relationship, why not just do it? Move out, return to work and get an apartment.
JMO
She just now asked for one, correct? Or did I miss that the family had tried before JS' first letter to AG?
Yes, that's what RZ's sisters claim, and the dog guy says she referred to MS as her son.
She just now asked for one, correct? Or did I miss that the family had tried before JS' first letter to AG?
This is from the SW:
The SW is in post 54 on this thread:
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148814&page=3
If you could provide links to both statements it would be appreciated. Thank you.
Then the question begs to be asked: Why did MS not receive any kinds of cuts if he grabbed onto that chandelier and brought it down with him? Or if it fell on him?
He had many healing scabs on his body in the AR. Doesn't say what they were from. Could have been cuts from glass. Does you have information that implicitly states he had NO cuts???
I don't recall anyone from the "murder camp" claiming RN or her family are incapable. I personally have questions about both Max's incident and RN's untimely demise, but frankly I think it's obvious "suffocation" didn't have anything to do with Max's death. Whatever tests the hospital did on Max, I don't believe that the doctor was aware of the extensive spinal cord damage Max had, because the spinal cord damage explains both cardiac arrest and brain swelling, as was clearly pointed out in the autopsy. But from what we know so far, if the doctor told Max's family members about that suffocation theory, I think it's a safe bet they would be very suspicious of RN.
But I don't believe they would have told RN about their suspicions, especially if there was hope of getting more information out of her. We know that DS's twin wanted to talk to RN about the incident that very evening. I don't believe anything was told to RN about these suspicions, because then she wouldn't talk.
Those aren't statements. They are questions to you (or anyone else who might know)
But XZ had already gone to the clinic on the day MS was injured, so why was RZ asking for advice after the fact?
He had many healing scabs on his body in the AR. Doesn't say what they were from. Could have been cuts from glass. Does you have information that implicitly states he had NO cuts???
I haven't read through the entire thread yet, so forgive me if this has been addressed, but couldn't it be as simple as she had been told the keep the wounds clean by the staff at the clinic, and she was asking her sister, who IIRC was a nurse about the best way to do this?
I agree that there are many things about the circumstances of both of these deaths that don't make sense, and need further investigation, but it seems that there are perfectly reasonable explanations to some of the details being questioned.
IMO of course.
Hi laurafairlie and :welcome: to websleuths!!
"--during my follow-up investigation with Dr. Brad Peterson, Head of the ICU Trauma, he informed me that over the course of four days of medical testing, no determination could be made on the cause of the cardiac arrest suffered by Shacknai.Based on the description of the incident, surrounding Shacknai's fall, Dr. Peterson did not feel the visible injuries were consistent with the cardiac arrest and brain swelling experienced by Shacknai. Dr. Peterson expressed concerns made based on the --the above factors, suffocation may have occurred prior to Shacknai's fall. "
BBM. Thanks for posting. This makes it very clear that Max's underwent extensive testing before the doctor concluded cardiac arrest had nothing whatsoever to do with his spinal injuries.
JMO
I wonder...could he have been hung from something. I know one time I asked if he possibly could have hung from a part of the chandelier, then in attempt to save him the chain broke, causing the fall, but that idea didn't go over well. Whatever happened I do think it was an accident, but someone knew/knows what happened.
Here's why I think it's strange. XZ was injured with glass badly enough to require medical treatment and sutures, and was due for a follow up approximately 48 hours later. Yet, in that time, XZ was sent back to Missouri where the sister-the-nurse lives. So what could RZ have needed to know about XZ's injuries in that short amount of time?
I would say, since you are asking questions of others, that with NO MSM releases or statements by Bremner posted on these threads, that NO, there is not a civil suit filed at this time, or prior to the letter by Jonah to the AG.
If someone does have links to the contrary, I would be very happy to see them.