Do any of the Anthonys believe Casey?

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Wow,

Thank you to all for your meaningful responses. I feel much better after reading them.

I almost feel guilty for praying every day and night for what appears to be an impossible request - that the baby is found and returned safe. I mean, I see the news and leaks of lab results and so forth and I admit that it doesn't look good, but I still want the baby to be well and I still believe in prayer.

I know from personal experience that there are no instruction manuals for how one must react to a dreadful situation, but I'm a little creeped out when NO ONE in that house begs the "kidnapper" to return the baby. I want to beg the "kidnapper" to please, please drop that baby off anywhere and call anyone to come get her. I want the "protesters" to go away and do something constructive - ANYthing productive would be better than hanging out for days in front of a family that is clearly in distress.

Now, if all the reports so far pass the rigors of cross-examination and are admitted as evidence at trial, or if more facts turn up, I know I will have to give up my own hope but I don't blame the family for keeping their hope til the day they die.

Thanks again for all the input. I just can't stop thinking about this family.
 
I think they want so desperately to believe her that they are completely delusional.

But what I cannot understand is if they believe her then -why no sketch?? If you truly think you know who took Caylee- and you want people to get off their azz and look for her- then give out ALL the info- who are we looking for? I'm assuming that her attny won't allow a sketch to be released bc I would think if ANYONE truly thought ZG took that baby they would want people looking for ZG AND Caylee!

I don't understand why no one has asked them that question?
 
I think they want so desperately to believe her that they are completely delusional.

But what I cannot understand is if they believe her then -why no sketch?? If you truly think you know who took Caylee- and you want people to get off their azz and look for her- then give out ALL the info- who are we looking for? I'm assuming that her attny won't allow a sketch to be released bc I would think if ANYONE truly thought ZG took that baby they would want people looking for ZG AND Caylee!

I don't understand why no one has asked them that question?


Answer to that was covered in the documents. The sketch was not released by LE because they thought it would only furhter confuse the issue.
 
Hello,

Long time lurker, first time poster!

I think their ACTIONS show that they know she is gone, even if their words don't. CA is desperately wanting to believe the baby still could come home but she "knows" somewhere inside herself that its not going to happen.

They are trying to portray a united from to the world (and maybe even in private) but nothing they actual DO shows any that faith Caylee is home. They are lashing out in every direction except where its warrented. It's like a house of cards, if they admit to knowing that even one thing KC has said as being a lie, then they have to admit the whole lot is a lie, ergo - Caylee is dead and THEY raised a monster. The worse case scenerio has come true. It is truely one of the worse cases of "head in the sand" I have ever seen, followed closely by Jackie & Lee Peterson.

I don't know how CA refrains from beating the living cr@p out of KC. I literally would NOT be able to be in the same house as her... but then again i would be screaming and begging on my front lawn for someone to help me find her and kissing TM's feet for EquuSearch.

Clearly, they are stuck in the "Denial" stage of the grief cycle, how long they can cling to that is anyones guess. Even if Caylee's remains are found, I think they will still adhere to what ever fiction KC is spouting at the time. Publically anyway. What will go on behind closed doors then is another story altogether.
 
I also think the house of cards is starting to fall, with today's announcement that Cindy went to a therapist and was told to try and get custody of caylee and to kick KC out of the house, I feel that this info must have come from a friend of Cindy's that she confided that to or another family member who knew the situation very well.

We can only hope that in the coming days more info will be leaked to put more pressure on this family, I hate to say it but the pressure is going to have to be on Cindy, George & Lee and hopefully at some point they will start pointing LE in the right direction.

I also want to say that I know alot of people are really upset with LE for the way that KC is able to leave home so much during her home confinement, but the blame really needs to be on the DA's office, I cant figure out why they have not inpanneled a grand jury to lay the facts out in front of and see if they feel there is enough evidence to charge her if it isnt something they are going to do on there own
 
I believe every one of them know the truth and I cannot understand why every one of them have been all smiles in the photos that the news has captured. They all act as if there is some huge secret. I sure hope it is not money related. I have seen no mourning or missing Caylee from any of them. There are no bags under their eyes at all. My eyes have bags from missling sleep to search for clues to find her. I dont understand what is so funny. And High Fives? sigh...

ITA! I think the whole family knows Caylee is dead. They don't want her found,IMO, because she is worth more missing than dead or They are involved after the fact in this crime....Poor Caylee.
 
This is a hard one for me to post on...
However,
I do think that GA, CA, and LA know that Caylee is dead. I believe that they don't trust their daughter at all, and that they are only playing along to try to get to the bottom of where her remains are.
As a mother of 4 myself..
I know how to handle each one of them when it comes to telling Lies..For example: I have a 15 year old, who when he lies, all I have to tell him is that I am no idiot, I know the truth and will give him one chance to tell the truth..and he does..
Yet, I have a 13 year old who will lie, and lie, and lie, the only way to break him is to prove it to him why you know he is lying..
Another, if he lies, he separates himself, goes off by himself, and then will later come around and say he is sorry for lying..
I mean, I think that living with this girl for so long, they know how to handle Casey's lies. I think with the problems they already have, and did prior to Caylee going missing, they know if they show at all that they don't believe her, its just pushing them further away from finding her body..
I also think this is why they are not out actively searching..they know the truth and are just trying to play their cards right..
 
I feel the entire family knows Caylee is gone & at Casey's hands - but are simply circling the wagons to protect what remains of them, in order to save Casey - and themselves.
Saving themselves from criminal charges and mostly insanity.
Sort of like, well whats done is done, let's make the best of what is left.
They all seem kinda callous and mostly self-centered. I think they are all about "me", and each individuals prime motivating factor is "me", not a collective "we".
This "us" against them metality is prolly the most they have ever functioned as a unit.
 
Okay, I'm not sure where to post this, But I have been thinking about this for a few days...let me know what you think.

If all the attention the A's are receiving would all go away.......They would have no one to blame and vent there frustrations on. That's when the in-fighting will start. One member will feel alienated and will break ranks and ratt out the rest.

This happens quite alot in my own family...note: none of us have ever commited a crime. While, we aren't as messed up as the A's, This tends to happen alot in families as well as groups of friends. Nothing can stay secret forever. Truth always comes out!
 
They know. If the therapist told Cindy to get custody of Caylee, there was a reason. The reason had to be pretty huge for them to think they could get custody away from KC (stealing money would NOT be enough -- the child has to be in immediate physical harm; I know, I've tried to get a child separated from their mother, it's NOT easy). If the danger was that obvious, Cindy would know that KC would do anything to keep her cash cow (unfortunately, Caylee). If she has control of Caylee, she knows that C & G will do anything to keep her (give her money, free rent, etc.) Cindy throws KC out, threatens to gain custody of Caylee, what to do??? Make HER pay! What does Cindy care for the most? Caylee. How to destroy Cindy? Kill Caylee. This is how a sociopath thinks and it is pretty obvious that KC is a sociopath. Where do you think Cindy got this word to tell all of KC's friends? From her therapist to whom she told all of KC's behavior which prompted the whole "gain custody of Caylee" discussion because being declared a sociopath would be enough to warrant the child's removal from KC's custody due to the threat of immediate physical harm. Cindy just played her cards too early and Caylee paid for it.
 
They know. If the therapist told Cindy to get custody of Caylee, there was a reason. The reason had to be pretty huge for them to think they could get custody away from KC (stealing money would NOT be enough -- the child has to be in immediate physical harm; I know, I've tried to get a child separated from their mother, it's NOT easy). If the danger was that obvious, Cindy would know that KC would do anything to keep her cash cow (unfortunately, Caylee). If she has control of Caylee, she knows that C & G will do anything to keep her (give her money, free rent, etc.) Cindy throws KC out, threatens to gain custody of Caylee, what to do??? Make HER pay! What does Cindy care for the most? Caylee. How to destroy Cindy? Kill Caylee. This is how a sociopath thinks and it is pretty obvious that KC is a sociopath. Where do you think Cindy got this word to tell all of KC's friends? From her therapist to whom she told all of KC's behavior which prompted the whole "gain custody of Caylee" discussion because being declared a sociopath would be enough to warrant the child's removal from KC's custody due to the threat of immediate physical harm. Cindy just played her cards too early and Caylee paid for it.

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Good post.
 
really does not matter. KC took this this baby and at best gave her away- she wont talk to cops -walks around without a care in the world.
They know with all the eviedence this baby is dead. I FELT GREAT PITY FOR THEM-BUT I SEE cINDY PUTTING UP HER YELLOW TAPE CHEWING GUM-looks to me that its a case of the apple does not fall far from the tree. At one time I thought Lee had a brain-but after the hi five I had it with him.
As far as house arrest--she is out of the house more then I am. Dont know why she gets to spend all day with her attorney- and does her attorney have no other clients --this case has made me sick--LE should charge her now-If I were on the Jury I would vote GUILTY--how many her would go with guilty right now-with what we know
 
The family is more worried about people being on their property, crossing their yellow tape, than they are about finding Caylee. IF they really believed she was alive they would be out searching for her. She would be more important than if someone was two inches inside their property.

It really is that simple to see. I cannot understand why they would think we, or LE would be fooled. Lee is supposedly playing video games. He and Casey are "high-fiving" it. Mom and dad are out hammering "no trespassing" signs in the yard and yelling at protesters.

I don't get it. At least ACT like you're looking people.
 
No reputable therapist would dignosis kc with out lengthy interviews
and testing . Doing that would put their professional license at risk
I suspect the therapist used the word sociopath in description of her
behavior as being described by her mother .

The Cluster B's are closely related and with most of these folks they are
co- morbid i.e. narcissistic with OCD or histronic with addiction
 
Maybe they do know... but have to let Casey know they support her because they know that they will lose her too. As a grandparent myself, I would think you have to hold on to every tiny shred of hope that your grandbaby is alive... and that your child did not deliberately hurt or kill her. That fact would be very hard to face, even for a normal person. And this family is not quite.... normal.
As for Cindy and George's attorny, I read that he is not a defense attorney, he is a media attorney. Sort of a PR attorney.
But I agree that they should be looking for Caylee, or at least getting some answers from Casey.
 
Kimmer said:
As far as going with the searchers to look for Caylee that would send a clear message to KC that they do not believe her and they think Caylee is dead again what would they expect to get from KC after that.

I could have understood their tactics as far as pretending to believe KC's story re the kidnapping if they wouldn't have took it to trying to stop the search by TES or trying to mislead it when CA went down there in the middle of a search with a half baked tip (when I heard NG say to CA, "I know you want more people to show up for TES to look for Caylee" and then heard Cindy say "no actually I don't" -- that to me said a million things, one of which was that she does not want Caylee found because that would send KC to prison for sure, it also said to me that she is willing to sell out Caylee for the likes of KC. It told me that she is utimately under KC's spell. Anyway she is beyond playing along with KC in the hope of gaining info, that would be one thing, but she has gone to the other side in that she doesn't want a dead Caylee found, she doesn't want to know the truth as it pertains to KC, and she will do whatever she can to throw off LE.
As far as GA goes, I think CA has been the head of that house from the start and he has towed her line. If CA were taken out of the picture tomorrow I think GA would beat the living h*ll out of KC until she broke. If she didn't break he'd let her sit in Graybar Hotel. As far as LA goes, he's a tough one, at first I thought he saw KC for what she is but as time goes on I think he is drinking the Koolaid.
What I really can't understand at all, is if I were in this situation and it was my daughter or grandbaby , even if I bought the story of her being alive, that still means you haven't seen or heard how that baby is for what now...like 80 some days? I would be insane with worry, I could not go about my daily life, and if I truly felt she was in PR, MX or TX wild horses couldn't keep me from going to these places. So why are they at Hopespring Dr? I don't get it.
 
If the A's are tiptoeing around KC as LP said on NG last night then it is possible that they totally believe Casey and if they upset her then she will never tell them where Caylee is. Or maybe GA is tiptoeing just because he is afraid of upsetting his wife to the point of......
 
I think they all know what happened and have now 'circled the wagons'. They know they lost Caylee, but they've cut their losses and decided not to lose KC as well. It's sad, it's wrong, but it doesn't surprise me. This case has broken all the rules, so to speak. I thought the Peterson's were bad, but this family takes the cake. The fact that GA and CA are so agitated publicly is that they are deathly afraid that LE is getting too close. They've shown time and again how far they'll go to protect KC. From yelling at and pushing protesters, to calling dna evidence 'hocus pocus'...nothing surprises me anymore.
 
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As far as LA goes, he's a tough one, at first I thought he saw KC for what she is but as time goes on I think he is drinking the Koolaid.

Good post and I'm frustrated with LA too. Unfortunately, I think LA is looking at the mega-bucks that could be coming his way in interviews, books, movies, etc. I don't think he believes his sister at all. He had distanced himself from the family before this all came about - had his own place, job, girlfriend, the works. Now he just hangs out and plays video games to while away the hours without having to interact with dysfunctional family...in anticipation of the payday to come.

It seems like the whole family has just put life on hold until this is over and I'm guessing that the Anthonys' attorney has gotten the deals made with producers and publishers. The Anthony's know they don't need to work right now because they believe they will have huge incomes in the near future. Their attorneys may even be paying their bills with an agreement to get a percentage of the rights to the story.

Any thoughts?:clown:
 
I think they all know what happened and have now 'circled the wagons'. They know they lost Caylee, but they've cut their losses and decided not to lose KC as well. It's sad, it's wrong, but it doesn't surprise me. This case has broken all the rules, so to speak. I thought the Peterson's were bad, but this family takes the cake. The fact that GA and CA are so agitated publicly is that they are deathly afraid that LE is getting too close. They've shown time and again how far they'll go to protect KC. From yelling at and pushing protesters, to calling dna evidence 'hocus pocus'...nothing surprises me anymore.



I guess I am the only one that thinks that the protesters are harassing the Anthony's. I would not want people outside my house screaming things about my children. Whether they were true or not. The Anthony's can't go into hiding because the media will chase them. I know that the Anthony's have not behaved normally and it's hard to scrape up sympathy for them. But I can't see where the protesting will help anything. I don't see it finding Caylee. I'm just afraid that someone will get hurt.
 

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