Does Misty really not know what happened? *POLL ADDED*

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Does Misty know what happened to Haleigh?

  • Yes, she is still lying

    Votes: 203 67.7%
  • No, she was passed out

    Votes: 40 13.3%
  • No, she was too high on drugs to remember

    Votes: 28 9.3%
  • No, she wasn't home

    Votes: 29 9.7%

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My thoughts exactly, and the look on her face and how the color changes in her face says it all!!

It is also interesting the threat she says did not happen is the gun in her mouth. We know that Ron not only has talked about putting a gun in his mouth but has demonstrated it. That was one of the few times I felt Misty was being completely honest.

I thought Misty was abused and threatened by Ron from the beginning. He reminds me of abusive guys I know including a cousin. That tape confirmed it for me. Misty's voice cracking and she almost losing it, her face, the stare and expression after. It was when she was denying it so she shoudl not have reacted like that. All other times, when it is silent, Misty gets uncomfortable and starts talking. That time she stayed quiet and seemed to be lost in a memory.

IMO, that fear is why Misty placed herself there but I do not think she knows enough or has the proof of what she does know..
 
I think, Misty did go into the bedroom with, Jr and hide under the blanket. I think she was ordered to do just that. By who, I don't know.
 
I didn't vote in this poll because I think there's a number of things going on and none of the choices seem to fit my opinion.

I think MC is narcissistic, opportunistic, devious, and lies for self gain or self protection.

Shortly after Haleigh went missing and we were finding the MySpace pages of those involved, we learned that RC had a former girlfriend, Amber, who had a baby by him. MC left a few messages on Amber's MySpace page that were red flags to me in regards to MC's personality. In one of the messages she inferred that Amber's child was RC's and therefore now her's. MC's message was a threat of taking Amber's baby away from her.

In the first few days after Haleigh disappeared, MC had the audacity to suggest that she, a girlfriend of 5 months, had taken the place of Haleigh's mother, Crystal. That was another big clue to her personality. She moves into someone's life and takes it over.

MC's story of what happened the night Haleigh disappeared doesn't make sense and she's changed her story often. That suggests that her story is fabrication...........she's making it up as she goes along and embellishing it. In many respects, it sounds scripted.

I also think that considering the three-day drug binge MC had just prior to the night Haleigh disappeared shows that she's a druggie in the worst way.

I think MC does have impaired memory from all the drugs she's taken, and is lying too. She also is intellectually impaired. At 17, with no formal education beyond 7th or 8th grade, she just doesn't know enough to make a lie appear to be truthful.

I don't think MC has the ability to be loyal to anyone else, so I don't think her lies are to cover for someone else. If she IS covering for someone else, it would be for her own self gain, or self protection - her own culpability in the crime.

I think there's a combination of issues - MC's personality, drugs, lies, memory impairment, that are going on.
 
It is also interesting the threat she says did not happen is the gun in her mouth. We know that Ron not only has talked about putting a gun in his mouth but has demonstrated it. That was one of the few times I felt Misty was being completely honest.

I thought Misty was abused and threatened by Ron from the beginning. He reminds me of abusive guys I know including a cousin. That tape confirmed it for me. Misty's voice cracking and she almost losing it, her face, the stare and expression after. It was when she was denying it so she shoudl not have reacted like that. All other times, when it is silent, Misty gets uncomfortable and starts talking. That time she stayed quiet and seemed to be lost in a memory.

IMO, that fear is why Misty placed herself there but I do not think she knows enough or has the proof of what she does know..

Also watch the uncut version on Fox, in the left corner you can see where it shows when they said that that her reaction was a untrue, when she said no one told her that
 
I agree. Big red flag. If she had said "that's all I remember" more; I might have believed her. I still think she's covering for Ron and his family. I just pray we find out soon what happened to lil HayLeigh:angel:

Maybe that's the key? She has no "memory" because she was called in after the fact and told to go along or else? She only has "knowledge" as to what she was told to say?

I dunno! I don't even think that Haleigh "disappeared" from Ron's MH. I think his MH was just staged as the abduction location.

Maybe MC was "passed out" at a siblings home and RC found her at 2AM and drug her back home...

All MOO Haleigh got off the bus "and that's all I know!"
 
In Part 2 of the Stress Test starting at 4:48, the analyst asks "Do you have a question? before whoever ask how much longer, Misty turns, looks at someone and says:

"Are you sure you don't want to add anything (gigles) please?"


The only person who she would say that to would be Ron. Who else could add to her talking about Jo/Tommy and the van?

Starting about 6:00 in that tape, she is asked if anyone has threatened to hurt her. She starts talking, says no but then goes on about "if" someone ever put a gun in her mouth she would be freaking (voices cracks like she is going to cry and she glances over to the same direction as she did when she asked about "add anything" above) and goes on for a few seconds then stops and stares in the same direction. She said no one threatened her yet goes on about the gun in her mouth to the point of her voice cracking. No other threat, just the gun in her mouth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=hA_4G9XJ4o0&feature=related

Why in the world would anyone do a test with other people who are at the very least emotionally involved in the same room? It is like asking an abused child if Mommy hits them with Mommy sitting right next to them. IMO, the analyst and his test has no credibility when he would do it in an environment where she feels threatened. Even if you believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance, he made a threat to kill the person that did. So how can anyone expect Misty to say that she knew more than she was telling with him right there?

I think the most interesting part is once again Misty is not alone to answer questions.


1Chump, I've seen this video almost a thousand times and never did I really pay attention to the part about being threatened and the gun in the mouth thing but......watching the video this time, and watching her reactions, as far as the "threat with the gun in the mouth", although, Misty denies it....IMO, that is exactly what happened to her. Now we hear that her and Tommy were scared to talk and scared of JO..In the story about JO, he supposedly held a knife to her...but in this description that she gives on this video it is about the scenario of a gun in her mouth. The fact that I think this is what happened to her, WHOEVER put that gun in her mouth is who she is really afraid of. We've heard Ron has demonstrated this type of behavior with a gun so it is not beyond him to make a threat by placing a gun in Misty's mouth. JMO though
 
In Part 2 of the Stress Test starting at 4:48, the analyst asks "Do you have a question? before whoever ask how much longer, Misty turns, looks at someone and says:

"Are you sure you don't want to add anything (gigles) please?"

The only person who she would say that to would be Ron. Who else could add to her talking about Jo/Tommy and the van?

Starting about 6:00 in that tape, she is asked if anyone has threatened to hurt her. She starts talking, says no but then goes on about "if" someone ever put a gun in her mouth she would be freaking (voices cracks like she is going to cry and she glances over to the same direction as she did when she asked about "add anything" above) and goes on for a few seconds then stops and stares in the same direction. She said no one threatened her yet goes on about the gun in her mouth to the point of her voice cracking. No other threat, just the gun in her mouth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=hA_4G9XJ4o0&feature=related

Why in the world would anyone do a test with other people who are at the very least emotionally involved in the same room? It is like asking an abused child if Mommy hits them with Mommy sitting right next to them. IMO, the analyst and his test has no credibility when he would do it in an environment where she feels threatened. Even if you believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance, he made a threat to kill the person that did. So how can anyone expect Misty to say that she knew more than she was telling with him right there?
I think the most interesting part is once again Misty is not alone to answer questions.

To my knowledge Ronald Cummings was NOT in the room when she was being tested eventhough I suspect he was somewhere on the premises....
IIRC it has been revealed Tim Miller was present for the testing.. I believe he is the one Misty is talking to when she asks.... "Do you want to add anything?"
 
To my knowledge Ronald Cummings was NOT in the room when she was being tested eventhough I suspect he was somewhere on the premises....
IIRC it has been revealed Tim Miller was present for the testing.. I believe he is the one Misty is talking to when she asks.... "Do you want to add anything?"

How could Tim Miller add anything about Tommy's drug use and behavior or Joe?

Misty not only asked but said "please?" In interviews, who is the person Misty turns to when she needs help answering? Ron. Misty never turned to TN and asked her for help answering, only Ron.

Since Ron talked her into taking the test according to Tim Miller, I bet he did it by agreeing to stay by her side to support her. Because whoever she asked that question is someone she "trusts" to support her. That would not be Tim Miller or even her own family at that time.
 
How could Tim Miller add anything about Tommy's drug use and behavior or Joe?

Misty not only asked but said "please?" In interviews, who is the person Misty turns to when she needs help answering? Ron. Misty never turned to TN and asked her for help answering, only Ron.

Since Ron talked her into taking the test according to Tim Miller, I bet he did it by agreeing to stay by her side to support her. Because whoever she asked that question is someone she "trusts" to support her. That would not be Tim Miller or even her own family at that time.

And Misty was only subjected to these tests, imo, to take the heat off Ronald beating Tommy up and cutting the head off a rat, I mean once again, Misty is taking the heat off Ronald, and it was all set up by Teresa Neves.

I am so sick of Ronald and his familys, oh lets not talk about my personal life, or stuff that I am doing, I have a missing child, focus on that and they think that because hes out acting like a straight up criminal, we are supposed to not even bat an eyelash because he has a missing child? Its insulting.
 
I didn't vote in this poll because I think there's a number of things going on and none of the choices seem to fit my opinion.

I think MC is narcissistic, opportunistic, devious, and lies for self gain or self protection.

Shortly after Haleigh went missing and we were finding the MySpace pages of those involved, we learned that RC had a former girlfriend, Amber, who had a baby by him. MC left a few messages on Amber's MySpace page that were red flags to me in regards to MC's personality. In one of the messages she inferred that Amber's child was RC's and therefore now her's. MC's message was a threat of taking Amber's baby away from her.

In the first few days after Haleigh disappeared, MC had the audacity to suggest that she, a girlfriend of 5 months, had taken the place of Haleigh's mother, Crystal. That was another big clue to her personality. She moves into someone's life and takes it over.

MC's story of what happened the night Haleigh disappeared doesn't make sense and she's changed her story often. That suggests that her story is fabrication...........she's making it up as she goes along and embellishing it. In many respects, it sounds scripted.

I also think that considering the three-day drug binge MC had just prior to the night Haleigh disappeared shows that she's a druggie in the worst way.

I think MC does have impaired memory from all the drugs she's taken, and is lying too. She also is intellectually impaired. At 17, with no formal education beyond 7th or 8th grade, she just doesn't know enough to make a lie appear to be truthful.

I don't think MC has the ability to be loyal to anyone else, so I don't think her lies are to cover for someone else. If she IS covering for someone else, it would be for her own self gain, or self protection - her own culpability in the crime.

I think there's a combination of issues - MC's personality, drugs, lies, memory impairment, that are going on.

IMO, you cannot take those things as proof of anything Misty. The first two about Ron's prior gf's could just as easily be coming from Ron, his Mom or Grandma.

The only reason a 25 year old man dates a 16 year old child is because he can control her and manipulate her. We know for a fact that Ron abused Misty. I say as a fact because no one calls someone they are supposed to love the names that Ron calls her in the 911 calls or other times.

It would not be hard for Ron, his Mom or even his Gma to convince Misty to send that message to Amber as well as convince her that Ron's kids needed a Mom beause they did not have one. IMO, those are Misty's attempts to prove her love to Ron and his family. Just like Misty had to prove to Ron that she could lie to her.


IMO, Misty as narcissistic, opportunistic, devious, and lies for self gain or self protection contradicts the teenage girl who took on the responsibility of two little kids. There was no benefit to Misty to take on those kids. If anything, Misty had to stop being a teen. Instead being a wife/mom.

GGma Sykes statement that she was angry at Misty for the 3 day binge because Misty left Ron without a babysitter says it all. GGma Sykes was not angry that Misty was having sex with another guy. GGma Sykes was not angry that Misty was doing drugs. No, her anger was that Ron did not have a babysitter.

IMO, that tells me that Misty was not doing what Misty wanted to do, ie take over someone else's life. Misty was being manipulated into responsibilities that she was too young to take on because the adults were tired of having the responsibility of two little kids.
 
And Misty was only subjected to these tests, imo, to take the heat off Ronald beating Tommy up and cutting the head off a rat, I mean once again, Misty is taking the heat off Ronald, and it was all set up by Teresa Neves.

I am so sick of Ronald and his familys, oh lets not talk about my personal life, or stuff that I am doing, I have a missing child, focus on that and they think that because hes out acting like a straight up criminal, we are supposed to not even bat an eyelash because he has a missing child? Its insulting.

I never even considered the timing of those tests but you are right. TN called Tim Miller right after Ron was arrested. The way TN and GGma Sykes will do anything and everything to protect Ron disgusts me. If only they had cared about Haleigh like they do adult Ron, Haleigh would be here right now.
 
http://helpguide.org/mental/domestic_violence_abuse_types_signs_causes_effects.htm

Since my opinion is that much of Misty's behavior can be explained because Ron is abusive, I thought I should bring over information on abuse. I have bolded ones that IMO apply to Ron according to his own behavior. Some of the signs of abuse may help to understand the problems with the case also.

Despite what many people believe, domestic violence and abuse is not due to the abuser’s loss of control over his or her behavior. In fact, abusive behavior and violence is a deliberate choice made by the abuser in order to control you.

Abusers use a variety of tactics to manipulate you and exert their power:

Dominance – Abusive individuals need to feel in charge of the relationship. They will make decisions for you and the family, tell you what to do, and expect you to obey without question. Your abuser may treat you like a servant, child, or even as his or her possession.

Humiliation – An abuser will do everything he or she can to make you feel bad about yourself or defective in some way. After all, if you believe you're worthless and that no one else will want you, you're less likely to leave.

Insults, name-calling, shaming, and public put-downs are all weapons of abuse designed to erode your self-esteem and make you feel powerless.

Isolation – In order to increase your dependence on him or her, an abusive partner will cut you off from the outside world. He or she may keep you from seeing family or friends, or even prevent you from going to work or school. You may have to ask permission to do anything, go anywhere, or see anyone.

Threats – Abusers commonly use threats to keep their partners from leaving or to scare them into dropping charges. Your abuser may threaten to hurt or kill you, your children, other family members, or even pets. He or she may also threaten to commit suicide, file false charges against you, or report you to child services.

Intimidation – Your abuser may use a variety of intimidation tactics designed to scare you into submission. Such tactics include making threatening looks or gestures, smashing things in front of you, destroying property, hurting your pets, or putting weapons on display. The clear message is that if you don't obey, there will be violent consequences.

Denial and blame – Abusers are very good at making excuses for the inexcusable. They will blame their abusive and violent behavior on a bad childhood, a bad day, and even on the victims of their abuse. Your abusive partner may minimize the abuse or deny that it occurred. He or she will commonly shift the responsibility on to you: Somehow, his or her violent and abusive behavior is your fault.

Abusers are able to control their behavior—they do it all the time.
Abusers pick and choose whom to abuse. They don’t insult, threaten, or assault everyone in their life who gives them grief. Usually, they save their abuse for the people closest to them, the ones they claim to love.

Abusers carefully choose when and where to abuse. They control themselves until no one else is around to see their abusive behavior. They may act like everything is fine in public, but lash out instantly as soon as you’re alone. Abusers are able to stop their abusive behavior when it benefits them. Most abusers are not out of control. In fact, they’re able to immediately stop their abusive behavior when it’s to their advantage to do so (for example, when the police show up or their boss calls).

Violent abusers usually direct their blows where they won’t show. Rather than acting out in a mindless rage, many physically violent abusers carefully aim their kicks and punches where the bruises and marks won’t show.

Domestic abuse falls into a common pattern, or cycle of violence:

Abuse – Your abusive partner lashes out with aggressive, belittling, or violent behavior. The abuse is a power play designed to show you "who is boss."

Guilt – After abusing you, your partner feels guilt, but not over what he's done. He’s more worried about the possibility of being caught and facing consequences for his abusive behavior.

"Normal" behavior – Your abuser does everything he can to regain control and keep you in the relationship. He may act as if nothing has happened, or he may turn on the charm. This peaceful honeymoon phase may give you hope that your abusive partner has really changed this time.

Fantasy and planning – Your abuser begins to fantasize about abusing you again. He spends a lot of time thinking about what you’ve done wrong and how he'll make you pay. Then he makes a plan for turning the fantasy of abuse into reality.

Set-up – Your abuser sets you up and puts his plan in motion, creating a situation where he can justify abusing you.

Your abuser’s apologies and loving gestures in between the episodes of abuse can make it difficult to leave. He may make you believe that you are the only person who can help him, that things will be different this time, and that he truly loves you. However, the dangers of staying are very real.

Recognizing the warning signs of domestic violence and abuse

It's impossible to know with certainty what goes on behind closed doors, but there are some telltale signs and symptoms of emotional abuse and domestic violence. If you witness any warning signs of abuse in a friend, family member, or co-worker, take them very seriously.

General warning signs of domestic abuse
People who are being abused may:

Seem afraid or anxious to please their partner.
Go along with everything their partner says and does.
Check in often with their partner
to report where they are and what they’re doing.
Receive frequent, harassing phone calls from their partner. Talk about their partner’s temper, jealousy, or possessiveness.

Warning signs of physical violence

People who are being physically abused may:

Have frequent injuries, with the excuse of “accidents.”
Frequently miss work, school, or social occasions, without explanation.
Dress in clothing designed to hide bruises or scars (e.g. wearing long sleeves in the summer or sunglasses indoors).

Warning signs of isolation

People who are being isolated by their abuser may:

Be restricted from seeing family and friends.
Rarely go out in public without their partner.
Have limited access to money, credit cards, or the car.

The psychological warning signs of abuse

People who are being abused may:

Have very low self-esteem, even if they used to be confident.
Show major personality changes (e.g. an outgoing person becomes withdrawn).
Be depressed, anxious, or suicidal.
 
1Chump that is good information. Can you please provide a link to the source. Copyright issues. Thanks.
 
I'm not trying to disagree with anyone and do not excuse RC at all for his actions, but I've felt that Misty was also in a way mentally abusing him and being manipulative with mind games. She used the fake pregnancy test to get his response for some reason, she called from WBG's, she called from the other alledged dope dealers needing rescue, she told him that Amber was a danger to the baby, caused drama with Amber's family possibly resulting in never seeing the baby, Amber's mom getting charges filed on her, got his children to love her, told him varying stories about that night, possibly was involved in the missing gun found in the ditch, and lost his child while babysitting.
 
I'm not trying to disagree with anyone and do not excuse RC at all for his actions, but I've felt that Misty was also in a way mentally abusing him and being manipulative with mind games. She used the fake pregnancy test to get his response for some reason, she called from WBG's, she called from the other alledged dope dealers needing rescue, she told him that Amber was a danger to the baby, caused drama with Amber's family possibly resulting in never seeing the baby, Amber's mom getting charges filed on her, got his children to love her, told him varying stories about that night, possibly was involved in the missing gun found in the ditch, and lost his child while babysitting.

Well, the only thing I have to say about this "teen" mentally abusing Ronald, is one, dont date immature teenagers when you are a grown man. Given their ages alone, when they got together, Misty was not even old enough to consent to a sexual relationship, he should have known of better.

Isnt he the one who said with age comes wisdom?
 
For me, the rat in the mailbox and Misty's reaction on that TV interview (the day after they married) when asked why her stories have so many inconcistencies speaks volumes. She looked around then at Ron for guidance, then said "I don't know" when he didn't say anything. Anyone else notice Ron's face after that? He was furious, and trying to hold his composure. Misty looks small and scared next to him. She doesn't appear to feel she can tell anything without Ron's permission. Who is covering for who? And I read somewhere that Misty seperated Haleigh and Junior that evening for arguing over what movie to watch. Did Misty snap on Haleigh, hit her in the head like in one story Flora Hollars offered, pass out a while from the drug binge, then awake to find Haleigh unresponsive? Alot of meth users become hostile when they are coming down off a binge. There are so many possibilities. I hope LE already knows the answers and are just building the evidence to ensure convictions.
 
BTW... you have to be in a pretty deep state of sleep or be passed out to sleep through someone abducting a child from 4 feet away. I have considered that Haleigh was never put to bed in that particular bedroom that night. Maybe (hypothetical) when Misty seperated the kids for arguing over movies, Haleigh got hit then put in her room down the hall, or left on the couch and Jr was placed in the master bedroom to watch his movie. Junior didn't see the violence or he would have likely told by now. I never understood why Misty said she washed Haleigh's blanket at 10 pm because it smelled of urine if she put her to bed at 8 pm ?? Something very wrong with that story along with the pink nightshirt Misty said Haleigh went to bed wearing being found in the laundry. Maybe Misty did something to her between 8 and 10pm and was washing away the evidence?
 
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