Dog the Bounty Hunter #2

[shelly]

I don't see what the big deal is--If Dog doesn't want his son dating a black girl, he has every right to say so--I'm sure most white parents do not want their son or daughter dating a black person, and I'm sure most black parents do not want their son or daughter dating a white person--However, if Dog really used the "N" word, that is absolutely unacceptable and I totally agree with A&E's decision to suspend the show

I don't think this is true that "most" parents do not want their children dating someone of a different race. In my opinion, most parents want their children to be happy and loved, regardless of the race. Of course, I'm speaking as a white woman married to a black man.

BTW, my parents love my husband because of the way he loves me.

 

[missacorah]

Im so glad to come here and read that so many of you dont think Dogs show should be taken off the air because of this badly chosen comment. How many of us have said something we've regretted in the heat of the moment during a row just to hurt the other person or something they cared about?

I have a forum about the Chapmans and their lives where this subject is the hot topic right now! Would love to hear some of your opinions over there if you have time. Hope its okay to post this here if not please feel free to delete. Address is under the post.

 

[fran]

First, I'd like to state, that I'm not particularly a fan of the 'Dog,' but I have seen his show many times.

I wish I had bookmarked it, but I didn't. But yesterday the drudgereport had the fuller context of the conversation. I went back to the drudgereport today and looked quickly and didn't see it again.

Anyway, what I got out of the conversation was that the Dog doesn't like this girl because for some reason she and Beth have issues. So this girl said she was going to get Beth. She said she was going to try to tape conversations of the Chapman family so that she could bring them down.

IMO, it's not that the Dog doesn't like her because she's black, he doesn't like her because he doesn't think she's very nice and has it in for Beth. In the conversation the Dog even said at one point he thought this girl was going to 'jump' Beth.

Dog doesn't like her because she said she's going to ruin the Chapmans. His son said she wouldn't do that because she loved him too much. Dog said something to the effect that 'then you don't know that much about the world.'

The Dog was sure that this girl was going to try to hurt the family. So he told his son that as long as he was with her, he couldn't work for him. He even said he'd help him get another job. He also told him he didn't want him to bring her over to the house and to keep her away from the other kids. The son had some issue with 'Lisa,' (is that one of Dog's daughters?), and blamed much of this disagreement on 'Lisa.'

What I got out of the conversation was that Dog said he wasn't going to use that word so that she could record it. He even said if (couldn't make out the other person's name) used that word, they'd be all over him for saying it.

Anyway, he did say the word was occasionally used within the family, but not in the context of 'race,' but rather attitude or whatever. But it sounded like he didn't like the word and wasn't going to say it. But he also said he didn't want the girl around the family to give her an opportunity to catch someone else within the family using that word.

This is the exact thing that the Dog was talking about in his conversation with his son. That he'd be recorded using the word and it would ruin the entire family and their livelihood. Apparently this son and his girlfriend did just what the girl said she was going to do.

Looks like the Dog is a good judge of character.

JMHO
fran

 

[shopper]

How long has Dog's show been on t.v.? Several seasons now? IMO, it got boring about halfway through the first season. The shows are pretty much all the same IMO.

But, I don't think that he should lose his show over this. It's not right to use that word, but he was in his own home (or maybe his business) and was being recorded, obviously by his traitor son. We ALL have the right to be ignorant in the privacy of our homes. If he loses some fans because of this and his ratings go down, then A & E should pull it and rightfully so.

:twocents:

BTW, I've personally heard some black people express their intense dislike for black people dating or marrying white people. Just like I've heard white people saying the same thing about white people dating/marrying black people. So it does go both ways.

 

[STEADFAST]

Apparently this son and his girlfriend did just what the girl said she was going to do.

Looks like the Dog is a good judge of character.

JMHO
fran

I'm with you, fran. What a huge betrayal!

I've never watched this show, but I have seen Dog as a guest on other shows, and I have the impression that he is one of the good guys of the world.

Can't condone his use of that word -- I was taught that was the absolute worst word anyone could ever say, in a class of its own beyond any cuss word -- nor do I condone people, parents or not, who would condemn a relationship based on the race of the participants. And if the remarks were made in the context of a public racist statement or publically indicating a racist state of mind, I would be glad his show was cancelled. I was sure glad Imus's was.

But since these were private statements within his family and not made on the show, and because they were made in the context of pointing out that the word was offensive, I don't see why Dog should be condemned.

As far as contacting Al Sharpton goes, am I the only person who kind of likes Sharpton?

 

[Squishified]

I'm with you, fran. What a huge betrayal!

I've never watched this show, but I have seen Dog as a guest on other shows, and I have the impression that he is one of the good guys of the world.

Can't condone his use of that word -- I was taught that was the absolute worst word anyone could ever say, in a class of its own beyond any cuss word -- nor do I condone people, parents or not, who would condemn a relationship based on the race of the participants. And if the remarks were made in the context of a public racist statement or publically indicating a racist state of mind, I would be glad his show was cancelled. I was sure glad Imus's was.

But since these were private statements within his family and not made on the show, and because they were made in the context of pointing out that the word was offensive, I don't see why Dog should be condemned.

As far as contacting Al Sharpton goes, am I the only person who kind of likes Sharpton?

I think he would be a hoot to hang out with and have a beer. However, I think his character is questionable. I vividly remember the Tawana Brawley incident in Newburgh New York. I was living in that area at the time. But I do not think he is evil or anything.

 

[STEADFAST]

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I think he would be a hoot to hang out with and have a beer. However, I think his character is questionable. I vividly remember the Tawana Brawley incident in Newburgh New York. I was living in that area at the time. But I do not think he is evil or anything.

I remember that, too. But wasn't it about 30 years ago or something? Seems like Sharpton likes to put himself forward in some questionable circumstances. But I think he serves a good purpose of keeping racists on their toes, and like you said "he would be a hoot to hang out with."

 

[Hopeful One]

As far as contacting Al Sharpton goes, am I the only person who kind of likes Sharpton?

I hope so.

 

[Hopeful One]

Fran, thanks for explaining the extended version. I think that puts it into context a lot more. I still don't agree with using that word, but it makes what Dog said much less harsh.

 

[Details]

I remember that, too. But wasn't it about 30 years ago or something? Seems like Sharpton likes to put himself forward in some questionable circumstances. But I think he serves a good purpose of keeping racists on their toes, and like you said "he would be a hoot to hang out with."

It was awhile ago - not 30 years, but awhile - but putting yourself out there in questionable circumstances is one thing. Attacking people with full force, accusations, etc. - then never apologizing just as publicly when you are wrong - that's where I've got a huge problem with him.

I don't think he keeps racists on their toes, he keeps non-racists afraid of a destroyed reputation if there's a false accusation. He makes racism look like a joke by crying racism over absolutely anything - valid and invalid incidents.

 

[Squishified]

I remember that, too. But wasn't it about 30 years ago or something? Seems like Sharpton likes to put himself forward in some questionable circumstances. But I think he serves a good purpose of keeping racists on their toes, and like you said "he would be a hoot to hang out with."

It was around 20 years ago. Sometime in the mid to late 80's.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I don't see what the big deal is--If Dog doesn't want his son dating a black girl, he has every right to say so--I'm sure most white parents do not want their son or daughter dating a black person, and I'm sure most black parents do not want their son or daughter dating a white person--However, if Dog really used the "N" word, that is absolutely unacceptable and I totally agree with A&E's decision to suspend the show

Because the network is worried about ratings. They could care less what he thinks of anyone. They just don't want it coming down on them.

 

[Lesleegp]

We've already tuned him out at our house because he's praying one minute, and spewing F bombs the next.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Well, Dog has done a lot for LE, many victims, and their families. Without Dog and his team...many convicted felons would still be out on the streets and committing God only knows what crimes.

I will always applaud him for catching Luster. (He was the most dangerous kind of sexual predator, imo. It was easy for him to lure his victims because of his fame and fortune. I was glad to see Luster couldn't buy his way out or run away from the law finally!)

I may not like some things about Dog personally, but in my book...Dog is a Hero. He champions the cause of catching criminals and putting them behind bars...again! It isn't a business where a charming personality or proper etiquette is needed. It is doing a dirty job for LE. Bounty Hunters definitely have their place in the world.

I don't think he should lose his show over this event. I like the idea of the dog biscuits! Thanks, Paladin! LOL

 

[Hopeful One]

I may not like some things about Dog personally, but in my book...Dog is a Hero. He champions the cause of catching criminals and putting them behind bars...again! It isn't a business where a charming personality or proper etiquette is needed. It is doing a dirty job for LE. Bounty Hunters definitely have their place in the world.

I agree. He also kicked his addictions (granted, you're never completely recovered but always recovering) and turned his life in a positive direction. That in itself is something to applaud.

 

[Linda7NJ]

So he used a bad word in private. Big deal. Move on.

Personally, I like to know whose a racist and who isn't. I wish people would just come out and say so, like Peter here on this thread. That way I can steer clear.

It's the sneaky, behind doors racists that scare me the most and those that are too ignorant to even be aware of the fact that they're racists.

I used to adore Johnny Carson too..........HUGE RACIST. I was shocked but I didn't make excuses for him or give em a pass. He is what he is, I just was sorry the public didn't know sooner

 

[Paladin]

Personally, I like to know whose a racist and who isn't. I wish people would just come out and say so, like Peter here on this thread. That way I can steer clear.

It's the sneaky, behind doors racists that scare me the most and those that are too ignorant to even be aware of the fact that they're racists.

I used to adore Johnny Carson too..........HUGE RACIST. I was shocked but I didn't make excuses for him or give em a pass. He is what he is, I just was sorry the public didn't know sooner

Just curious, but do you think people who use (or misuse) the "N" word are necessarily racist? I'm only asking because it seems lately that alot of people who blurt it out and get caught say "Well, I don't consider myself racist." Is it possible to use the word and not be one?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Is it possible to use the word and not be one?

Why don't you ask the rappers who spew it on their cds?

 

[southcitymom]

Just curious, but do you think people who use (or misuse) the "N" word are necessarily racist? I'm only asking because it seems lately that alot of people who blurt it out and get caught say "Well, I don't consider myself racist." Is it possible to use the word and not be one?

I think that it is. My former white boyfriend used to call his good black friend 'the N word' sometimes when he was talking to him - and he definitely wasn't racist.

I know some folks who call black people they consider to be low-class the N word just as they might call white people they consider to be low-class 'cracker' or 'white trash.'

I don't use the N word unless I'm singing alone in my car along to a rap song that uses it. I think, as we can see, it's a word that's loaded with too much potential for hurt and misunderstanding. I'll just stick with using the F word when someone P words me off!

 

[Paladin]

I think that it is. My former white boyfriend used to call his good black friend 'the N word' sometimes when he was talking to him - and he definitely wasn't racist.

I know some folks who call black people they consider to be low-class the N word just as they might call white people they consider to be low-class 'cracker' or 'white trash.'

I don't use the N word unless I'm singing alone in my car along to a rap song that uses it. I think, as we can see, it's a word that's loaded with too much potential for hurt and misunderstanding. I'll just stick with using the F word when someone P words me off!

I agree. Good post.