Dr. Phil w/George and Cindy Anthony Air Date 9/13 and 9/14 2011 Thead # 2

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves
Status
Not open for further replies.
Hi Strawberry,

The lying from this family knows no bounds. KC was in jail when Caylee was found on December 11th. So she could not come forward before then because SHE KNEW THAT CAYLEE WAS NOT IN THE PLACE SHE LEFT HER. How would she know Caylee was moved? SHE WAS IN JAIL. Also, it is not like Caylee was found miles and miles away; it was a matter of yards, if AT ALL.

KC could not come forward because she knew there was tape on Caylee's mouth and that she had put it there.

And when was Cindy told this? That would be a great question. She would lie and say after December 11th and that is why I couldn't come forward; Cindy would also say KC went back a few times and Caylee was never there.

KEEP TALKING CINDY

I think she is referring to the search done by DC and Hoover. That is how she knows Caylee was not where KC left her, because DC and Hoover were told where KC left her and went and looked and she was gone/moved to where she was later found.
 
JB was on Geraldo last night, and on the TODAY Show this morning. I think he's making the rounds...


Hmmm ... I bet Jose had to BEG to go on these shows -- EXCEPT no "begging" for his good ole buddy Gerry Rivers to have him on his show ...

I am "guessing" that JB and his "client" were furious with the Anthony's getting all the attention last week ...

Will any of this "dog and pony show" ever end ? :banghead:

MOO ...
 
Does anyone remember how the bamboo story got started as an excuse for the shovel. Originally supposedly FCA borrowed it to dig up bamboo so Caylee's feet would not get hurt. Now CA is sticking with the bamboo story even though she believes the story that Caylee was dead when the shovel was borrowed. She connects dots about as well as 12 people from Pinellas. But when the shovel story came to light by BB, FCA was already in jail. Did CA originally offer this as an excuse, supposedly from FCA's mouth? I can't remember..I don't think it was in a jail visit?

IIRC - The bamboo story came to light when Greta Van Sustern did the interview at the A's house and the tour of the backyard.
 
Well, we've got the interview with Dr. Phil for the A's, Aruba and a case there for Baez...I'm just waiting for Casey to pop up. Don't bad things happen in three's?
 
Hmmm ... I bet Jose had to BEG to go on these shows -- EXCEPT no "begging" for his good ole buddy Gerry Rivers to have him on his show ...

I am "guessing" that JB and his "client" were furious with the Anthony's getting all the attention last week ...

Will any of this "dog and pony show" ever end ? :banghead:

MOO ...

Not as long as tv producers put them on the air. Money talks, there is no morality in tv.
 
@tampabaysmix
Mix 100.7
Jose Baez, attorney for Casey Anthony was not well received by the @theviewtv audience just now. People are still not happy with him.
 
Well, we've got the interview with Dr. Phil for the A's, Aruba and a case there for Baez...I'm just waiting for Casey to pop up. Don't bad things happen in three's?

In case it has not been posted:
Jose Baez was just on The View, with Barbara Walter's. When asked about George Anthony's claim that his daughter may have drugged Caylee and may have had help disposing of Caylee. Specifically, when asked about George Anthony saying that it happened because his daughter wanted to "party". Jose Baez said (paraphrased,) "That is preposterous. Caylee died on a Monday afternoon. ...Orlando, how many parties are there on a Monday night?"
http://theview.abc.go.com/
 
I just saw JB on The View and he did in fact state that Caylee died on a Monday afternoon.

So how did GA get all that done and make it to work for 3pm?

He also said that the things GA are saying now are preposterous.

I thought I heard him say the afternoon.......keep talking, JB, keep talking.

What on earth is George saying that is preposterous? Go watch a tape of your OS and CS if you want to hear preposterous, JB. Better yet, just go away.
 
@tampabaysmix
Mix 100.7
Jose Baez, attorney for Casey Anthony was not well received by the @theviewtv audience just now. People are still not happy with him.

Bet his next stop is Joy Behar's show tonight or tomorrow!!:waitasec:
 
Funny, I don't remember that happening when JA was on the View. :waitasec:

Of course not! They probably stood and applauded for him.
I was typing a post and looked up when I heard the booing thinking I'd get to see his reaction when he walked to the table.....but he was already sitting at the table with the ladies. Pretty smart move to cut the booing time short.
 
Sometimes I feel after this long that hating the As has become a favorite pastime. I try not to get caught up in that but it is hard sometimes.

I try to look at the deeper issues and why things may be the way they are.

We talk about them being dysfunctional (some say the most dysfunctional family they have ever seen) but I believe there is always a root cause for that dysfunctional behavior.

I have read countless articles about what family members have to endure when living with a family member who is a cold unfeeling narcissistic psychopath and that alone makes the family dysfunctional and the ones who aren't narcissists become targets and are in survival mode everyday of their lives. I wanted to see if other families go through what I went through in my childhood growing up while living with one.

I realize now how lucky I was that I did not bring all that dysfunction into my own adult life but it sure left my mom with many issues having to deal with him for 41 years. To be quite honest she too become a 'yes' woman who never stood up for herself just like GA. Even though he was extremely abusive to me... in the end it made me a better person. I realize now if I had been the chosen child where he wanted me to be just like him then I could have turned out just like him (shudder) and I am the polar opposite. Cindy saw Casey and she saw herself all over again and she groomed and polished Casey to become just like her.

Now in this family, IMOO, the dysfunction is compounded by having not just one........but two narcissists living in the home to contend with on a daily basis. I cant even begin to imagine how hard that must be.

Wouldn't we be more shocked if they weren't dysfunctional?:waitasec:

We have a family here where the powerful narcissist rules the roost. Allowing only her daughter to have power because the daughter is just like the mother. Cindy knew it would then be all consuming and always about them.......and no one else.

Now Lee......well Lee knew early on that he was valued very little but he did realize the best way to survive his ordeal was to be for his mother and sister and against the main one they pushed off the back burner.

George had no purpose except to make Cindy appear to be a good wife to others who may see her outside of her home. He was to make sure the cars were shiny and clean and the lawn immaculate so that the As home seemed like the idyllic place to be from the outside. He was to be there if Cindy and Casey needed a gopher or a ready made babysitter for Caylee when Cindy and Casey had plans. And he was there only to be in agreement on everything Cindy said.

Just like abusers pick their victims imo narcissist marry those they know they can dominate and rule with an iron fist. After awhile like the abused spouse or child they begin to think their lives are normal. One only looks to control and the other one thinks the micro-managing every step they take is done out of love.

Narcissist are masters at manipulations especially when it comes to their own families. They blame you for their own wrongdoings and convince you that you are the one that is unworthy and it is a cruel mind game that often works. It is like years of brainwashing and they are excellent at it.
IMO

BBM
Your post is excellent..You have just described my ex-husband to a tee. That's exactly how I felt in my marriage, years of "brainwashing"...the abuser wanting to convince you that everything in his life that's wrong is your fault. What saved me was I knew, deep down inside I was a good person, that there was something wrong with what he was trying to convince me of, that and a very good counselor. He was incapable of making decisions, I would make them, then he could blame me when they didn't turn out the way he wanted.
We have to consider the relationship between mother and daughter also. Our daughters, at some point challenge us. Some more than others, they gauge themselves by how much they can "match up" to the moms. I believe CA & the felon were in a battle to see who could dominate the household and Caylee.
Everyone in a family unit are assigned roles. Lee could have taken on the protector role for both CA and the felon. CA did say he always looked after his little sister. He was the one called by GA to go to the house when the felon was found that day. I could see how he had no respect for GA as his father and might have tried to take on the role of the "man of the house" but of course the women wouldn't allow it. He "took charge" of the situation when the felon was arrested, guiding his parents and investigating until, of course he realized he was "being taken for a ride".
I agree with your assessment of GA. I've found that women who dominate their husbands, often treat them like a child. The men feel emasulated but stay in the marriage sometimes for financial reasons, the women are usually the money makers and the women enjoy dominating their man but at the same time have no respect for them. Sometimes secrectly wishing they had a man that would take care of them but at the same time not wanting to release that control. No one knows better then themselves whats right.
My mother, as a co-dependent, has spent her whole life with abusers. When I divorced her answer was..you made your bed, lie in it. She never offered any support, only criticism, even going so far to tell my children that I couldn't take care of them. She never went beyond that point in her life, never knew that what was on the other side of co-dependency was a whole other world of independence....Great post..Thanks!
 
I'd always thought the "where Casey left her" thing had come up way, way earlier and was a reference to having left her with the nanny .. rather than where she had left Caylee's body.
I stand corrected.
 
@tampabaysmix
Mix 100.7
Jose Baez, attorney for Casey Anthony was not well received by the @theviewtv audience just now. People are still not happy with him.

BBM:

:great::great: :great: Now this made my morning !

Now ... if this is how Miss Anthony's "attorney" was treated ... can you just imagine how an audience would REACT if Casey were to be on a show ?

:floorlaugh:

MOO ...
 
Part of me agrees with you. However, as long as she keeps making up excuses and not facing reality, I just can't let it go. If she would admit that Casey did this and it wasn't accident, I would consider it a breakthrough. But she keeps making excuses because she doesn't want to believe in her lifetime that Casey did this. The evidence is there. Casey did this. Cindy needs to face up to it. Her daughter is a murderer. As long as she keeps excusing Caylee's death like it was nothing, I will continue to be angry with her. And I don't think anyone is nailing her to the cross. We're angry with her because she refuses to see the truth and thinks she can keep lying and make it her truth. But the more lies she tells, the more outrageous it is, and the only person believing her BS is Cindy.

It's getting to the point that she needs to shut up and go away. She needs to deal with this in private with private help, not out on public television for all to see and get more angry with her. She is doing no favors to herself to keep lying and covering for Casey. Casey is acquitted - what more does she need? What keeps her still lying and covering at this point? She should well enough alone and just live her life. I would respect her a lot more for that than continuing this Casey is innocent crusade.

I've been reading and reading and reading all the comments about Cindy and how Cindy didn't love Caylee and has finished grieving for her and now it's all about FCA.

I don't agree at all. I think what we have seen is grieving interrupted. We've seen glimpses of Cindy's grief - the 911 call, the video where she is so sedated, and Cindy on the stand at the trial. Very real emotions there.

But something in Cindy will not allow her to take it further. Because I believe to accept the death of a loved one is to ALSO accept the circumstances involving that death. And here's where the interruption came. In the first step of mourning, Cindy could not accept that FCA killed Caylee. And she moved into FCA is innocent, save FCA mode. And it has lasted for three years.

There is only one thing wrong with trying to believe, in fact insisting that you yourself believe something that your soul, your unconscious mind and even your waking self knows to be a lie. Cindy "knows" FCA is not innocent - but she is pulling every card she can think of. That's what we are seeing - a refusal to accept FCA's guilt.

That's called crazy thinking. And the big problem with crazy thinking is - it makes you crazy - and the longer you do it, the more bizarre you become to avoid the truth. Voila - the performance on the Dr. Phil Show.

I've always said and will say it again - God help Cindy the day her eyes and heart opens to the truth - that FCA killed Caylee with malice aforethought. That day may very well destroy her. And that day WILL come. That's the day Cindy will truly begin to grieve the loss of Caylee. IMO.

That day will come as surely as I believe FCA will make a misstep - and be back in front of a judge and jury again.
 
Ok, the post wasn't clear. So Dr. P asked her about the searches pointing out she was at work? And her explanation was the software was faulty?

snipped by me....

Sorry it wasn't clear. Dr. Phil asked her multiple questions about being clear that she DID the search for chlorophyll (yes, and Cindy said it prompted her to search for chloroform), and questioned her that she did NOT perjure herself in testimony to try and help Casey.

On the way to commercial without C&G sitting there, just Dr. Phil talking, he said Cindy also said that since the software produced an error of 84 hits on the chloroform page instead of just 1 that possibly the software time stamps for the times of the searches were off too like that would explain why the time stamps were times she was at work, not at home.
 
BBM:

:great::great: :great: Now this made my morning !

Now ... if this is how Miss Anthony's "attorney" was treated ... can you just imagine how an audience would REACT if Casey were to be on a show ?

:floorlaugh:

MOO ...

She'll never be on a show with an audience-just like her parents did with Dr. P. But, the time is coming when you'll see her on a show-mark my words. I t just has to be the right show with the right conditions/stipulations. I don't care what Phil says-he'll interview her if he gets the chance!!:fence:
 
Oh, I forgot the part where Dr. Phil asked if Lee/Mallory have children would George and Cindy allow Casey to babysit. Cindy wouldn't have a problem with it. IIRC George said it would be up to Lee/Mallory. Dr. Phil had to insert the caveat of Casey being treated for whatever Cindy believes is wrong with her first and then it would be ok forr her to babysit. Cindy quickly agreed. But she said no problem first.
 
In case it has not been posted:
Jose Baez was just on The View, with Barbara Walter's. When asked about George Anthony's claim that his daughter may have drugged Caylee and may have had help disposing of Caylee. Specifically, when asked about George Anthony saying that it happened because his daughter wanted to "party". Jose Baez said (paraphrased,) "That is preposterous. Caylee died on a Monday afternoon. ...Orlando, how many parties are there on a Monday night?"
http://theview.abc.go.com/

so I looked at a 2008 calendar, showed Monday as JULY 14?? didn't he say Caylee drowned on July 16 in his OS?? July 16 08 is a Wednesday? am I losing my mind? or is he just putting out more misinformation? or just answering whatever pops into his mind???

opps, I am wrong, JUNE , not July, in any event, JUNE 16 is a MONDAY!! SORRY, I AM LOSING MY MIND!!!
IMO
 
I've been reading and reading and reading all the comments about Cindy and how Cindy didn't love Caylee and has finished grieving for her and now it's all about FCA.

I don't agree at all. I think what we have seen is grieving interrupted. We've seen glimpses of Cindy's grief - the 911 call, the video where she is so sedated, and Cindy on the stand at the trial. Very real emotions there.

But something in Cindy will not allow her to take it further. Because I believe to accept the death of a loved on is to ALSO accept the circumstances involving that death. And here's where the interruption came. In the first step of mourning, Cindy could not accept that FCA killed Caylee. And she moved into FCA is innocent, save FCA mode. And it has lasted for three years.

There is only one thing wrong with trying to believe, in fact insisting that you yourself believe something that your soul, your unconscious mind and even your waking self knows to be a lie. Cindy "knows" FCA is not innocent - but she is pulling every card she can think of. That's what we are seeing - a refusal to accept FCA's guilt.

That's called crazy thinking. And the big problem with crazy thinking is - it makes you crazy - and the longer you do it, the more bizarre you become to avoid the truth. Voila - the performance on the Dr. Phil Show.

I've always said and will say it again - God help Cindy the day her eyes and heart opens to the truth - that FCA killed Caylee with malice aforethought. That day may very well destroy her. And that day WILL come. That's the day Cindy will truly begin to grieve the loss of Caylee. IMO.

That day will come as surely as I believe FCA will make a misstep - and be back in front of a judge and jury again.

BBM - This is not a popular opinion but I think CA was faking when she kept slumping lower in her chair. Her tissue was in her hand which was in her hair. She never wiped away tears and when she finally sat up, still no tears. Besides, she heard that 911 tape over and over during her 'Casey is innocent tour' and it didn't bother her in the least. In fact, she was in fighting mode if any reporter dared to ask about Casey.

IMO
 
He said some crap on the View about being on the side of the Constitution as a lawyer......like he's had a hundred cases that made him famous not just one that's made him infamous. He's a 15-minute of famer in my eyes. I wouldn't call him if I got a parking ticket.

LOL. You'd think he would have had a "lightbulb" moment there after he said that. GG's in Aruba...our laws do not apply there. I think JB needs to "zip it". jmo
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
165
Guests online
280
Total visitors
445

Forum statistics

Threads
608,893
Messages
18,247,193
Members
234,485
Latest member
sleuther80
Back
Top