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I don't think an entire adult body would fit. The man's body I think wasn't in one piece when it was placed in there (gruesome).

But, as you say, a child might.
 
I've had this one twice: Older woman, short wavy dark hair going gray (maybe all iron gray), kind of a bright colored plaid or floral shirt, not very tall and neither fat nor thin She has her arms folded and she's lecturing me, constantly talking at me...she's been after me and after me and after me, and I just want to run away...I'd walk clear to the other side of town to avoid her if I could...

I think this one is from before she disappeared. This woman might go with or know about the (?vehicle?) with the red stripe.

I should add that this (?vehicle?) that I see from outside probably fits the description of the confined metal space that others are seeing.
 
If Lindsey walked in and said she was "fine" I think it would be amnesia from PTSD. Sorry, but all signs point toward trauma.

Yeah, I know, realistically speaking. But it was nice to have an optimistic dream...and as I said, I don't think it was a "seeing" dream. Just hope.
 
I've had this one twice: Older woman, short wavy dark hair going gray (maybe all iron gray), kind of a bright colored plaid or floral shirt, not very tall and neither fat nor thin She has her arms folded and she's lecturing me, constantly talking at me...she's been after me and after me and after me, and I just want to run away...I'd walk clear to the other side of town to avoid her if I could...

I think this one is from before she disappeared. This woman might go with or know about the (?vehicle?) with the red stripe.

I should add that this (?vehicle?) that I see from outside probably fits the description of the confined metal space that others are seeing.
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Hi carbuff. I've been reading a lot of articles lately about sex trafficking of children. The description of the older woman just makes me think about the Mexican children who are kidnapped and then as a preliminary process, sent to a woman "madam" I guess you could say, to be humililated and emotionally battered in order to break their spirits and get them to be compliant.
 
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Hi carbuff. I've been reading a lot of articles lately about sex trafficking of children. The description of the older woman just makes me think about the Mexican children who are kidnapped and then as a preliminary process, sent to a woman "madam" I guess you could say, to be humililated and emotionally battered in order to break their spirits and get them to be compliant.

Hm, interesting thought.

I associate her with Canada, but that doesn't preclude that kind of role.

I also associate her with the Shell station.

I am wondering if perhaps she's a witness -- somebody at the station who saw something but doesn't realize it was important?
 
My ex was a commercial fisherman; he kept his catch in the 'hold'. The hold on the MV Falcon is the area that runs from about mid-ship to the stern (back end), below the deck and above the bottom hull (~35'), which is made of steel.

I fell into the hold once. It was a hard and cold, dark, echo-y place, absent of anything helpful for getting me back up on deck. I managed to wedge-walk my way (I don't know what else to call it) up one side far enough to reach the hole I fell through, and pull myself up and out, but just barely. It was painful and cold (not to mention stupid) and was probably the most difficult physical thing I've ever done. Rib-cracking, muscle-straining, purple-magenta bruise-making difficult.

Don't laugh. I was in love.

Hi Coastal, I read your post here yesterday and last night I woke up around 3am out of a deep sleep sweating after dreaming about you down in that hold :eek: Holy Horrors, thank goodness you were strong enough to get out of there and that no one shut the lid !!! xox
 
Hm, interesting thought.

I associate her with Canada, but that doesn't preclude that kind of role.

I also associate her with the Shell station.

I am wondering if perhaps she's a witness -- somebody at the station who saw something but doesn't realize it was important?

Hi there, As I remember the Shell station closed at 9pm that night. I have no idea how long it would take to close up. But that is an interesting thought about a female witness at the station who might have noticed something odd.
 
Hi Coastal, I read your post here yesterday and last night I woke up around 3am out of a deep sleep sweating after dreaming about you down in that hold :eek: Holy Horrors, thank goodness you were strong enough to get out of there and that no one shut the lid !!! xox

Hey scandi.. glad to see you back.. missed you.. Hope your feeling better. Yeah Coastal experience sure is scary, along with being hurt. The way she describes the hold even makes you feel that part of her struggle as she tried to get out of the hold attempting to climb to sides and grabbing the lip to pull self out. shakes head..

Kind of reminds me also of the description of the apartment in the grain silo and the eerie feeling it gave me. I can't imagine anyone living in something like that. Can't remember who mentioned it. Think maybe it was concentric.
 
I've had this one twice: Older woman, short wavy dark hair going gray (maybe all iron gray), kind of a bright colored plaid or floral shirt, not very tall and neither fat nor thin She has her arms folded and she's lecturing me, constantly talking at me...she's been after me and after me and after me, and I just want to run away...I'd walk clear to the other side of town to avoid her if I could...

I think this one is from before she disappeared. This woman might go with or know about the (?vehicle?) with the red stripe.

I should add that this (?vehicle?) that I see from outside probably fits the description of the confined metal space that others are seeing.

Kind of curious Carbuff.. what is she lecturing you about. What is it she wants you to know or do. Does she seem aggitated at something you might have done or haven't done.
 
Not sure if this has peen posted yet.....

Bill planned that would fight I-5 sex tradeMAKS GOLDENSHTEYN; For The Olympian | • Published January 12, 2010

Comments (17) Recommend (3)Former U.S. Rep. Linda Smith heard from a missionary about children being locked up in cages in a far away place.

To see for herself, Smith traveled in 1998 to the front lines of India’s commercial sex industry on Falkland Road in Mumbai, home to one of the worst brothel districts in the world.


There, she met a young girl who was about the same age as her granddaughter. It was a life-altering night for Smith, who represented the 3rd Congressional District.


Five years later, after leaving politics and launching a nonprofit organization aimed at helping the victims of sex trafficking around the world, Smith came to another realization: The sex trade industry was thriving in the United States too.


On Monday morning at a gathering inside the Capitol, Smith, along with other human trafficking experts, state officials and those concerned with the issue, reflected on the magnitude of the problem and on strategies for reaching lawmakers.


“It’s real. It’s big. We need to do something,” said Smith, the founder of Shared Hope International.


Human trafficking is believed to be the fastest-growing crime in the world, according to Seattle Against Slavery, the organization that sponsored Monday’s event. Smith said at least 100,000 domestic minors, or children born in the U.S., are among those coerced into the sex industry, which includes prostitution, stripping, exotic dancing and *advertiser censored*. Pre-teen and adolescent girls are the most susceptible.


“The numbers in our country are staggering,” Sen. Karen Fraser, D-Thurston County, told the crowd. “They are being kept there by beating, assaults, isolation, terror.”


Sen. Jeanne Kohl-Welles, D-Seattle, who was also on hand Monday, is expected to introduce legislation this week that would allow volunteers to post signs inside rest area bathrooms along Interstate 5, a prominent trafficking route, urging those who need help or those who see a possible victim to call the authorities.


The fear is that hundreds of victims could be transported through Washington state on their way to brothels in Vancouver, B.C., for next month’s Winter Olympics.


“When I drive up I-5, what is it I’m not seeing?” Kohl-Welles said.


Organizers hope that the owners of convenience stores, gas stations, casinos and truck stops will also allow volunteers to post the signs in their restrooms so that victims from “Vancouver to Vancouver” can get help, Smith said. The sign reads: “Need Help?” in seven languages, and contains the image of two hands chained together and the number to an anti-trafficking hot line.


“My girls have been sold at rest stops and truck stops; practically every one that I’ve been involved with in the United States,” Smith said.


Another bill expected to be filed later this week would increase the penalties for those found guilty of promoting the commercial sexual abuse of a minor, protect rather than punish those being charged with their first offense for prostitution, provide more help for victims, and change the language of “minor engaged in prostitution” to “sexually exploited child.”


“We’re going to fight hard to bring about the justice of the women and justice to the men who use their bodies by the hour,” Smith said.




Another link........
http://www.humantrafficking.org/uploads/publications/2007_TIP_Report.pdf
 
Thank you serpendipity for bring this article forward.. It is nice they are really looking into the human trafficing. Seems there is so many that have and are going missing and any little bit towards helping these people be found and stopping the trafficing is a good thing..
 
Kind of curious Carbuff.. what is she lecturing you about. What is it she wants you to know or do. Does she seem aggitated at something you might have done or haven't done.

She's angry, but I'm not sure what she's angry about. I don't hear words, just see her mouth moving and her angry facial expression. I think she's lecturing me about my behavior and how I'm always talking and don't pay attention.

I think she might be a teacher.

I think I might be in Lindsay's head.
 
This was in my thoughts out of really nowhere as a I woke up this morning:

I got an image of a guy in tan pants and shirt (looks like a uniform) standing with a shovel in his hand by a large hole in a gravel drive with cement blocks around. There were patches of snow on the ground. He was breathing heavily as if he had been exerting himself digging, and his breaths were coming out in vapor, as it is cold outside.

(The reason I posted it is because it seemed to arrive like some other "psychic" images usually do for me. I haven't been in cold weather with snow in years and I haven't seen men digging holes in any gravel roads recently. Creeped me out.)
 
She's angry, but I'm not sure what she's angry about. I don't hear words, just see her mouth moving and her angry facial expression. I think she's lecturing me about my behavior and how I'm always talking and don't pay attention.

I think she might be a teacher.

I think I might be in Lindsay's head.

Almost sounds like she is an authortative person, which could be a teacher, girl scout counselor, a parent, anyone that was/is suppose to look out for the welfare of the child. Maybe a counselor.
 
This was in my thoughts out of really nowhere as a I woke up this morning:

I got an image of a guy in tan pants and shirt (looks like a uniform) standing with a shovel in his hand by a large hole in a gravel drive with cement blocks around. There were patches of snow on the ground. He was breathing heavily as if he had been exerting himself digging, and his breaths were coming out in vapor, as it is cold outside.

(The reason I posted it is because it seemed to arrive like some other "psychic" images usually do for me. I haven't been in cold weather with snow in years and I haven't seen men digging holes in any gravel roads recently. Creeped me out.)

Hey concentric.

With this imagine that you saw could you tell if he was an older many, what type of built. Maybe coloration of hair or no hair.. Could he have just shoveled the driveway barem Reason he was breathing hard.. Dang shoveling sure is a labors job.. exhausts you very easily especially if you are an older gentleman. We have a lot of snow and many of the driveways are dirt based but first you have to find the dirt underneath the snow especially if it is drifting.. Sure wish I could say I was in warmer weather. You know you could send some the nice weather my way. *S*
 
From ^ your article (and thanks for it):

“The numbers in our country are staggering,” Sen. Karen Fraser, D-Thurston County, told the crowd. “They are being kept there by beating, assaults, isolation, terror.”

Thurston County?
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Thurston County! Heavens to Betsy, that's the next one over!

To hell with the Governor; somebody call Senator Karen Fraser!
 
She's angry, but I'm not sure what she's angry about. I don't hear words, just see her mouth moving and her angry facial expression. I think she's lecturing me about my behavior and how I'm always talking and don't pay attention.

I think she might be a teacher.

I think I might be in Lindsay's head.
My first thought was "mother". Like a fist, I felt that.
:o


Just saying.
 
Almost sounds like she is an authortative person, which could be a teacher, girl scout counselor, a parent, anyone that was/is suppose to look out for the welfare of the child. Maybe a counselor.

Yes, I think so.

Librarian?

I get a very strong feeling Lindsay associates her with school, or with trouble at school, but it could be her mother lecturing about grades or studying. Was she supposed to do some work over the summer, or take a summer class, or something?
 
Yes, I think so.

Librarian?

I get a very strong feeling Lindsay associates her with school, or with trouble at school, but it could be her mother lecturing about grades or studying. Was she supposed to do some work over the summer, or take a summer class, or something?


I am not sure MB would lecture LB on grades and studying. I see her more lecturing on some of the behaviors between LB and JB and the trouble they had gotten into. I don't see their home as structured or strict. I imagine some of the behaviors can be very challenging at times, especially for a single parent raising a teenager and pre teen. I can only imagine the emotional conflicts one has to deal with, especially when one also has a form of autism which makes even more difficult, along with teenage hormons. I do have to wonder about the support system. Imagine she did have friends that where close to her, and she does have her sister that was involved with the family dynamics and helped her out the best she could.
 
I am not sure MB would lecture LB on grades and studying. I see her more lecturing on some of the behaviors between LB and JB and the trouble they had gotten into. I don't see their home as structured or strict. I imagine some of the behaviors can be very challenging at times, especially for a single parent raising a teenager and pre teen. I can only imagine the emotional conflicts one has to deal with, especially when one also has a form of autism which makes even more difficult, along with teenage hormons. I do have to wonder about the support system. Imagine she did have friends that where close to her, and she does have her sister that was involved with the family dynamics and helped her out the best she could.

Thanks. If that's the family dynamic then I don't think this person is Lindsay's mother. Might be somebody else's mother.
 
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