Lindsey Baum "important"

[KONAMOCHA]

oh ok, well now I understand ....kinda

isn't it customary to start a foundation for somebody who is deceased ?

I have always thought that foundation referred to a person who had died.... am I wrong ?

sorry for offending anyone just whats in my mind right now.

IMPO

 

[KONAMOCHA]

definition of 501(c)3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)#501.28c.29.283.29

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96114,00.html

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96099,00.html

 

[JenniferO]

oh ok, well now I understand ....kinda

isn't it customary to start a foundation for somebody who is deceased ?

I have always thought that foundation referred to a person who had died.... am I wrong ?

sorry for offending anyone just whats in my mind right now.

IMPO

Honestly, I don't know anything about the foundation/financial end of it.. Nor do I really care. I'm donating my time because I don't have the financial means to help.

What MB decides to do is her business. I hope she gets all of the needed information from a lawyer whose specialty is this.

 

[kageykaren]

definition of 501(c)3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)#501.28c.29.283.29

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96114,00.html

http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96099,00.html

Thanks, Great links to educate the public. ~<3~

 

[kageykaren]

it was posted that MB started a search fund up the Monday after Mark Klass volunteered his time along with Amber's family members. This seemed like a positive direction as it seems most citizens assumed there was money put into an account on that day. The public may have assumed wrong and this account was set up for future money being requested in the form of donations. It is difficult to except an unknown's word about finances not being available in the publics eye as the financial world has changed many of our own lives. Money makes things become a business sad to say. Off to call the bank and see if a public fund could be set up for Lindsey's searches. This would take the heat off MB to be responsible in a financial way, allowing her to deal with other issues at this time that may overide the time it takes to plea for donations. Just an idea.

 

[CorallaroC]

Thanks everyone, the posts in this thread have brought some important matters into focus. It's good to be looking at things objectively and asking legitimate questions.

 

[JenniferO]

it was posted that MB started a search fund up the Monday after Mark Klass volunteered his time along with Amber's family members. This seemed like a positive direction as it seems most citizens assumed there was money put into an account on that day. The public may have assumed wrong and this account was set up for future money being requested in the form of donations. It is difficult to except an unknown's word about finances not being available in the publics eye as the financial world has changed many of our own lives. Money makes things become a business sad to say. Off to call the bank and see if a public fund could be set up for Lindsey's searches. This would take the heat off MB to be responsible in a financial way, allowing her to deal with other issues at this time that may overide the time it takes to plea for donations. Just an idea.

Some of the information you posted is incorrect.

MB did NOT open the account. She has nothing to do with the search or reward fund. They were opened by KK and AW (sorry, I don't know if I can post their full names on the board)

You can read about it here

 

[kageykaren]

That makes things a bit more hinky. What is going on with these accounts? The loosely worded post that stated how and who set up the "Fund" was extremly vague about the total care of "funding" required. MB should have her own private lawyer and accountant to stay on top of this form of asking for donations. If people found out these accounts were affording luxurys for some there would be a big mess that MB would want to know about. A lawyer could handle this instead of lay people connected to the investigation. Might be time for whoever these people are to regroup and have someone legally monitore the monies until the loose word, "fund" has become a foundation that the public can access the foundation records. For thousands on the net to assume people with and without names are handling a fund just because they say it is so doesn't seem safe to say for an example to a millionair who would be asking for a defination of his or her interest donated. Hope MB gets better and can hire a reliable legal way to watch investments for Lindsey. Sterling Bank manager had no knowledge of FBI having anything to do with a fund for Lindsey. Big red flag!

 

[CorallaroC]

Some of the information you posted is incorrect.

MB did NOT open the account. She has nothing to do with the search or reward fund. They were opened by KK and AW (sorry, I don't know if I can post their full names on the board)

You can read about it here

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JennO, the link you provide here doesn't seem to be working. Do you have an alternate link please?

 

[JenniferO]

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JennO, the link you provide here doesn't seem to be working. Do you have an alternate link please?

No, sorry. I don't.
I'm assuming since the mods have moved the thread it's not something they wanted posted here.
Until I hear differently I'm not going to discuss it anymore.

 

[LookN4Lindsey]

That makes things a bit more hinky. What is going on with these accounts? The loosely worded post that stated how and who set up the "Fund" was extremly vague about the total care of "funding" required. MB should have her own private lawyer and accountant to stay on top of this form of asking for donations. If people found out these accounts were affording luxurys for some there would be a big mess that MB would want to know about. A lawyer could handle this instead of lay people connected to the investigation. Might be time for whoever these people are to regroup and have someone legally monitore the monies until the loose word, "fund" has become a foundation that the public can access the foundation records. For thousands on the net to assume people with and without names are handling a fund just because they say it is so doesn't seem safe to say for an example to a millionair who would be asking for a defination of his or her interest donated. Hope MB gets better and can hire a reliable legal way to watch investments for Lindsey. Sterling Bank manager had no knowledge of FBI having anything to do with a fund for Lindsey. Big red flag!

Hopefully you won't take offense but, I think you may possibly want to re-read the post that was up originally because I remember it saying that FBI was "aware of" and would basically be able to monitor or would be monitoring it. I don't recall it saying anything about them being involved with the account. Or did you get that information elsewhere?

Not trying to be rude by any means I've read many of your posts and you've brought up some points in the past regarding the case that I thought were very valid and interesting. I just see that it is posted over on IS and maybe I'm just reading it differently but I don't think so. So wanted to make a note because I know that this is how inconsistencies and rumors can get started when someone interprets things wrong and I believe in this instance you may have.

 

[kageykaren]

The post seems to have been pulled by adminstrators so it is difficult to respond to your comment. The post stated that the FBI was there I thought when the account was set up. Found the quote @ InSessions post 1534 9-9-09 (my two sons birthday's) by Jennifer O who cut copied pasted it for an explanation of funds. Jen was just relaying it & not responsible for content. "I'm not sure who to have them talk to but FBI is aware of it and was there the day it was set up and they affirm that they monitor them as well as the IRS." After discussing the account with the bank manager Ms.L to find out info for donating I read the post that is currently pulled to her and her response was that she didn't know anything about the FBI monitoring any account. Thats about all I can offer on this subject, until Agent Polly Levine gets back intouch. She may be able to clear up the subject of the "fund" & how FBI keeps it monitored. It seems by some post that at least the members on W/S (can't speak for the thousands who read here) need a more factual statement concerning all accounts. A full discloser of monies spent, similar to a foundation. This would afford the many who would like to give some peace of mind. the public has know idea of the experience behind the people in charge of these accounts. To use blind faith when donating money isn't prudent in todays world. I know these type of accounts explained to grieving parents by someone early on in an active investigation send a red flag to FBI and other LE. I'm not sure why this is. I only have one example to refer to. This would be the Caylee Anthony case. The grandparents starting a foundation, fund 2 mon. into an investigation. The people the A's chose to bring into the case were felons with rap sheets pages long from a non for profit missing children foundation called Kid Finders. I'm sure LE an attorney general are all over that foundation. The other person they chose to bring into the mix was what has been stated as a less than stellar spokeswoman from Helping Heros Productions named MB. There are many threads discussing this person in the Caylee Forum. It appears this person MB (Helping Heros Productions) is not liked by thousands posting in the Caylee thread. If I'm correct this spokes person flew into McCleary and spent a day with Lindsey's mom. Is this how the talk of "Funds", 501c3 foundations began with Lindsey's mom? I know Tim Miller (Texas Equisearch) was not happy with this group of people last Nov. so it has me going to ask Tim Millers financial backer if this may be a one in a hundred reasons why he could not search in McCleary. Does anyone know if TM was contacted as I don't remember. ~<3~

 

[kageykaren]

I'm curious if anyone else has called Tim Miller (trained search volunteers) of Texas Equisearch besides I think MB's "neighbor". I'm not at liberty to discuss the conversation I shared with a TE staff member as I gave my promiss. I like others hate that statement but I had to. Yes this is hearsay, take it as you wish but remember I am honest on these boards, sometimes to a fault. The conversation left me confused is all I can say. Maybe I can get our member here at W/S who works with Tim M personally to comment. The brite side is another search group is helping and all our volunteers have been trained. I'm wondering if searches come to a simmer if (like another posted suggested) TM could be given another call to put fresh trained eyes on the recovery of Lindsey. TM & TE search teams offer much publicity for a missing child. Just a thought and not to dimenish the wonderful volunteers working in all aspects of searches.

 

[KONAMOCHA]

That is a great idea to bring in more experts in this field to help find Lindsey

I think any help that can be found is greatly appreciated in this case

IMO
~KONA~

 

[CorallaroC]

Here is a link for Texas Equusearch which outlines the procedure for requesting a search.

http://texasequusearch.org/category/missing/report-person-missing/

The request must be made by a family member and/or LE agency handling the case. (bold text mine)

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IMO Tim Miller's organization is top-notch, the best there is. I will share a few of my thoughts in next post.

 

[CorallaroC]

I decided to post my thoughts over on the main thread instead...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88014&page=25&highlight=lindsey+baum

post #617

 

[Novice Seeker]

I agree, families of the missing may need to avoid the discussions that take place on crime boards.. Yes, it can get rude and involve persons the family feels should be left out. However, this is a crime forum with a vast amount of members who have worked on prior crimes or have the professional experience which could help in finding this missing child. I have said before and remain with my thought that if I ever have a family member go missing, as soon as LE is contacted my next step will be to hit several of these crime boards and spill everything out on the counter, lists of names,friends,enemies,hobbies,lifestyles, insight of my missing member and anything asked for. Because when it comes to trying to find my missing loved one the gloves come off and everyone is suspect until proven otherwise.

 

[kageykaren]

I agree, families of the missing may need to avoid the discussions that take place on crime boards.. Yes, it can get rude and involve persons the family feels should be left out. However, this is a crime forum with a vast amount of members who have worked on prior crimes or have the professional experience which could help in finding this missing child. I have said before and remain with my thought that if I ever have a family member go missing, as soon as LE is contacted my next step will be to hit several of these crime boards and spill everything out on the counter, lists of names,friends,enemies,hobbies,lifestyles, insight of my missing member and anything asked for. Because when it comes to trying to find my missing loved one the gloves come off and everyone is suspect until proven otherwise.

I can't tell you enough how appreciative I am and I know others are by your post. This is why many of us are here to help Lindsey. We all find cases that we can add are expertise to. This particular site is great at separating the emotionally charged post by those cental in the investigation as we understand how difficult it must be if they choose to read here. Never the less time moves forward (not a good thing for Lindsey) and it's time we start asking the tough questions to slueth. My first question is, "Has anyone central to the case been officially cleared by FBI or local LE? Maybe starting on where the dogs hit with the private handler is a good start now that it seems to show they did in fact. I read a post by a poster named MM stateing that LE wasn't telling "them? (Who's them?) anything & saying, "and that is just wrong" This is how it works in a active investigation. There is a reason as LE may be putting a case together as it seems LE is holding on to MB's computer, & MM's computer loaned to MB. I'm assuming the Forensic Computer specialist here or at Quantico are picking those hard drives apart like we slueth unless they have been returned that is.

 

[kageykaren]

An authoritive person did state a call came in from a "neighbor" asking about TM & TE policies. The neighbor was quoted as saying that Mom B was considering another search team but would have her call. It was stated that a few weeks later Mom B returned a call stateing that she was going through LRC instead and that she was sorry at getting back with them so late as her computer was taken by LE. It was stated to these two women and myself that Tim's service would be free of charge and all that would have to happen is a call from mom b. Sounds so simple and would have provided world wide media exposer for Lindsey. One of the concerns stated was a comment that LE didn't want private searches done. The neighbor supposedly called 4wk. into the case unless this person meant Mom B called 4wks. into it. Tim M is in good standing with LE and for his type of searching their wouldd be communication. I didn't ask if the offer still remains as it is clear Mom B must do the asking. From other sites I read "Troy" "involed in church across the st. from local PD.) was just interviewd by LE, what branch I don't know. This seems to say the investigation is ongoing within McCleary at least. I can't imagine the amount work this investigation is bringing forth but so glad they do what they do. The silence by LE to the public seems to say were working on it and nothing will be exposed to tip off anyone as we make discoveries to fit the missing links.

 

[kageykaren]

So glad to see one of our dedicated members, yes that would be you Jen :heart: nline: at insessions forum giving your opinion on Michelle Bart. It just takes aliittle :google: and :sleuth: to figure out why so many find her non-professional. I'm being kind with this statement as many have found her to appear less than honest. Your words of "blood sucking" are how many feel. Thanks for sharing this in a public forum. I was beginning to think I was the only one :singing:, "I'm Spreading the News". Thanks & :hug: