Ebola outbreak - general thread #9
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Well that's pretty disheartening. Besides <modsnip> it's a violation of the International Health Regulations, which Canada helped to draft in the aftermath of the 2003 SARS outbreak.
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I found this which is saying that a patient is being tested. They do not have confirmed Ebola yet. This is from 30 minutes ago.
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2014/10/patient_hospitalized_in_oregon_1.html
From what I'm hearing, an at-risk patient, that is, a patient who has been in West Africa, has something that they are taking extremely seriously and treating it as if it were ebola, but no blood tests have been done yet. (He sounded as though they were in the process of figuring out a way to do a blood test in complete safety, as a matter of fact.)
Fever over 102.
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That does sound potentially serious.
Do you know if the hospital is one of the ones which is supposed to be fully Ebola 'ready'?
Here's some good detail on the decision to use "controlled monitoring" though no troops will have contact with patients. I like this term. Factors in decision include making soldiers' families and communities comfortable, no need to fear. (Families are already under some duress when their loved ones are was.) Another factor is the large number of people deployed. #It would be more difficult to track, monitor people if they go out and about#. It's viewed as risk management for large groups. But essentially it's a PR strategy that is thought to be needed to not jeopardize the mission since the mission is so important. For individuals here at home a case by case determination makes sense to me.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nitoring-for-all-u-s-troops-on-ebola-mission/
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This is from further down the article and outlines some of the logistical issues relating to testing for the virus:
Here's the CDC weekly flu activity map: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm
Note it's always a week behind. This might help when looking at fevers around the country, to consider what other types of illnesses a patient may have.
Of course I agree to assume ebola virus with a fever at threshold or higher who's recently visited W Africa until tests come back.
Note it's always a week behind. This might help when looking at fevers around the country, to consider what other types of illnesses a patient may have.
Of course I agree to assume ebola virus with a fever at threshold or higher who's recently visited W Africa until tests come back.
I don't know. I only started listening in the middle of the press conference. Judging from what he said about working out a way to do the blood test, I doubt that it is.
And, we should remember that malaria causes a fever, and is a likely disease in anyone coming back from West Africa. They're doing just right in treating it as though it is ebola, but it doesn't mean that it is. (There was a funny/sad story in an article about a Nigerian doctor who recovered. After the road to recovery had begun, so she thought, her temperature spiked, and she was filled with horror until.....well, let's say that no one was ever happier to hear that she had malaria.) (Sort of like the day I once spent thinking that I had cancer, until I discovered that you get swollen lymph nodes right before the spots show up with chickenpox.)
Hi, yes the NYTimes link has that info. The link isn't working for me anymore, will post again:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/n...dule=Search&mabReward=relbias:r,{"2":"RI:15"}. The site won't let me snip. The view of who the source was for the misinformation was jmo. If need to search within NYT search for craig spencer, or article 'First Patient Quarantineed...' Hope this helps. Reference is after the 4 photos, working now.
Got it, < snip> "In New York City, health officials said that initial reports were incorrect when they indicated that Dr. Spencer had a 103-degree fever when he notified the authorities of his ill health. He actually had only a 100.3 fever. Officials attributed the mistake to a transcription error and said the lower temperature made it highly unlikely that he could have spread the disease before going to the hospital."
Actually, for anyone wanting to see her pay some penalty, Kaci is not out of the woods yet. Even though the ruling today was in her favor there must still be a complete hearing. The complete hearing must be held no later than 10 days after Thursday, 10/30. The link is on my post 106 on this thread. I'm guessing that every attorney involved is currently devouring every applicable Maine law.
Here's a link to the Oregon information: http://www.opb.org/news/article/woman-being-monitored-for-ebola-hospitalized/
No, it doesn't sound to me as though they were ready for this. That's not in any way a criticism of them, just that my impression of what was said.
No, it doesn't sound to me as though they were ready for this. That's not in any way a criticism of them, just that my impression of what was said.
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I believe she was at a hospital in MD, so no flight to visit the White House on her release, just a drive.
Nina seems like a pleaser so she likely agreed without asking for even the tiniest favor in return.
I personally am a bit stunned that she made that trip to the White House and Bentley was STILL held in that crate/room quarantined for a full week after her return!
Providence Milwaukie Hospital. I don't know either but it doesn't sound like a large facility. Oregon Health and Science is a large one for more complex patients, ranked #1 in state. She could always to the prepared Montana site. General ebola statement on site: http://oregon.providence.org/news-a...ous-disease-protocols-in-place-at-providence/
Oregon Health and Science University Hospital ebola prep statement: http://www.ohsu.edu/blogs/96kmiles/...in-ebola-drill-thursday-october-23/?WT_rank=3
But I'd much rather see patients in the NW go to this Montana Level 4 center, St Patrick Hospital: http://missoulian.com/news/local/st...cle_da521772-4839-11e4-b266-4342d105e33f.html
<snip> "Hurley said in addition to the physical facilities, St. Patrick staff have workshops on Level 4 safety practices every six months along with regular drills. She and Risi just returned Friday from a trip to Cuba, where they trained about 200 nurses and doctors in safe clinical procedures for working in an Ebola ward. Those Cuban medical personnel are due to leave for Africa, where they will put the training to work."
Missoula, Montana map: https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=201590196311779688369.00043a59be34a79b1e833&dg=feature
Absolutely! But, they can decide when the tests come back.
Missoula Doctor And Nurse At Level 4 Ebola Center Have Experience Treating Ebola Patients In Sierra Leone
http://missoulian.com/news/local/mi...cle_eadb6468-4064-11e4-9540-bfb845256d34.html
http://missoulian.com/news/local/mi...cle_eadb6468-4064-11e4-9540-bfb845256d34.html
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