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Some reports say 5 feet.I understood it (in other reports) to be approximately 2'. :waitasec: MOO
Some reports say 5 feet.I understood it (in other reports) to be approximately 2'. :waitasec: MOO
I have been on many construction sites (New Constructions - real estate) I did go through a crawl space one time because of a ring. I am not as small as Le was.I'm not as small as Annie, and I could easily fit in a space that was two feet wide. I don't think we know for sure how tall the space is. I would imagine that if it's like other buildings on campus, it's made so that electricians and other tradespeople can get in fairly easily and do work on the mechanicals without having to tear apart the walls. The ones like that that I've seen (in a new building several blocks away) aren't particularly small, though you would have to maneuver around the wires and pipes to work on something specific in there.
What's the story with Clark's green pen?
In addition to stealing his ID card, someone would have needed to steal his cell phone… as well as his green pen.
"Investigators have gathered more than 250 pieces of evidence in the case, sources told ABC News, including text messages exchanged between Clark and Le arranging to meet on the day she disappeared."
http://a.abcnews.com/m/screen?id=8598755&pid=248
I agree, would be hard to say he was framed with what we know already. Though more will be known when evidence is released.
Has anybody heard if Annie ever mentioned to her fiance that suspect had been difficult to her or a pain to her?
If someone framed RC then they've done a very good job. They knew the where and when of his meeting meeting with AL. They managed to get into the room she was killed in without swiping their card. They were able to steal and use his ID/swipe card without him knowing it was gone. They knew he always carried a green pen. They were able to transfer his DNA to Annie's body and the bloody clothes in the ceiling without transferring their own DNA. They were able to scratch his chest and arms to simulate defensive wounds. And that still doesn't explain failing the lie detector test or refusing a DNA test.
If he's had 'no business' being in some areas, then why did he have card access in the first place?
It wouldn't have been hard to frame Ray. If he leaves his scrubs lying around, they'll be full of DNA evidence. Card and pen, if he left those lying around, they could have also been taken. Or someone could have made a fake card. But that's just assuming that the card swipes are the indicator that a crime was committed. We don't know. If he's had 'no business' being in some areas, then why did he have card access in the first place? If that place was crawling with students, it would be difficult for him to be in that area where her body was found for an hour or so they claim working on making the body fit.
They said it was adjacent to a bathroom. Was it ever closed off as being out of order? That's the only way I can think of it being used to conceal the body without anyone seeing what was happening.
The scratching wounds are not conclusive. He had them on his back as well. How did she get her fingers under his scrubs and shirt and reach to his back when she was supposedly in a choke hold from behind? He should have scratches on the more obvious places, like his face, or his lower arms.
But he might not have been framed. He might have been one person who was asked to do something, and somebody or some other people carried out a plan. At this point, the evidence suggesting that he committed an act of rage in the work place without any one seeing him do that, and move the body, is just not convincing enough. For instance, was he the only person scanning his card in that area after hours?
If she did scratch her attacker, then that evidence should still be under her fingernails.
he did have significant scratches and scrapes and bruises to the lower arms, his eye and his ear -article in the news articles list, will have a look
Sources also told the newspaper that Clark bore bruises, scratches and abrasions on his arms and chest, as well as a mark on his right ear and under his eye.
He said some of the injuries were suffered during a softball game, the others were cat scratches, according to the Register.
When he was questioned by the FBI, agents took note of numerous injuries on his body, the source said, including what appeared to be bruises and abrasions on his arms, a mark under his eye, a scratch on his ear, and a bruise or deep scratch to his chest.
When questioned, he said some of the injuries were a scratch from a cat. Others he attributed to playing softball.
I saw on FOX this morning yesterday LE found even more clues
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,554814,00.html?test=latestnews
Anybody know what they found?
I read they found his pen in the chase but have no link, so take that with grain of salt. IIRC, he was known to use a green pen?
Since Ray has yet to scream "I was framed!" IMO he wasn't.