Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #8

[meanmaryjean]

This is interesting. Care for a brain dead patient. Didnt realize how much goes into it.

http://www.utoledo.edu/policies/utmc/nursing/standards/S/pdfs/S14.pdf

Truthfully, that's about a tenth of it.....

 

[Trino]

This is interesting. Care for a brain dead patient. Didnt realize how much goes into it.

http://www.utoledo.edu/policies/utmc/nursing/standards/S/pdfs/S14.pdf

OMG. Thanks for the information.

My question is who is doing all this for Jahi right now? The family? A health care facility?

 

[jjenny]

OMG. Thanks for the information.

My question is who is doing all this for Jahi right now? The family? A health care facility?

Presumably the nurses at the health care facility she is at.

 

[Madeleine74]

I'm hoping that in future it will be possible to prevent or slow down cell death in the brain.

If you're willing to have your entire body (or even just your head) preserved cryogenically then you can wait to be defrosted and find out how far medicine advanced. Of course you'll pay up the wazoo to be preserved and chances are good that it will be many decades or perhaps a century or more until such time as they have the ability to bring you back from your deep freeze, but you too can be a part of the future if you so desire and can afford it.

As of now though, no dice. Jahi is not alive, not even a little bit. She died in December.

 

[K_Z]

OMG. Thanks for the information.

My question is who is doing all this for Jahi right now? The family? A health care facility?

Just a point of clarification.This is a wonderful example of a hospital policy and procedure for interim care between diagnosis of brain death and organ procurement, but it is not a blueprint for how her body "should" be cared for 43+ days after brain death. Jahi's body is not a candidate for organ donation at this point in time (except post mortem donation of tissues such as potentially skin and bone). Her body is no longer a candidate for donation of solid organs. I don't think there is any recommended protocols for "appropriate" care 43+ days after brain death. Nor any outcome studies that support "best practices". Dead is dead.

Any physical or physiological care is completely up to the discretion of whomever is in charge of her body.

My best guess is that they will try to maintain the most normal physical appearance of the body for as long as possible. So, lots of skin care, face and mouth care, turning, hydration, massage, range of motion, special low skin pressure bed, nail polish, lotions, hair care, etc. This family has denied the changes inside the body at all costs, and focused on the external appearance. So that is what my guess is. Maintain the best appearance of the external body, awaiting and expecting "God to spark her brain alive", or stop her heart. JMO.

 

[Nore]

Truthfully, that's about a tenth of it.....

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God Bless the Nurses taking care of them. :tyou:

 

[popsicle]

I can relate to Jahi McMath's family because I've been there

We are always told not to make major decisions when we are emotional. But this decision had to be made at the most emotional moments of our lives, and it had to be made there and then.

I would not want to persuade anyone to donate a loved one’s organs. This is a profoundly personal decision. But I urge every family to think about it so that if something tragic happens, you will remember what you thought when death was just a remote possibility.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opin...nation-20140123,0,5886722.story#axzz2rB1f80uM

 

[Sonya610]

If you're willing to have your entire body (or even just your head) preserved cryogenically then you can wait to be defrosted and find out how far medicine advanced. Of course you'll pay up the wazoo to be preserved and chances are good that it will be many decades or perhaps a century or more until such time as they have the ability to bring you back from your deep freeze, but you too can be a part of the future if you so desire and can afford it.

Yeah that is of course assuming that a century from now someone will be willing to spend the time and money to take your frozen head and provide a body for it! LOL.

That sort of thing will NEVER be cheap and I sure wouldn't bank on some weird company carrying through with the expense to restore all of the random bodies/heads they have sitting around in 100 years.

 

[Herat]

I find it very curious that we haven't seen any more of the hand-holding photos for nearly two weeks.....

 

[Leilei]

I find it very curious that we haven't seen any more of the hand-holding photos for nearly two weeks.....

I've been reading here but not posting lately, and yes, it's very strange. No real updates. I'm hoping that they came to their senses and laid this poor child to rest, but I doubt that's happened.

 

[ItsJustaName]

Yeah that is of course assuming that a century from now someone will be willing to spend the time and money to take your frozen head and provide a body for it! LOL.

That sort of thing will NEVER be cheap and I sure wouldn't bank on some weird company carrying through with the expense to restore all of the random bodies/heads they have sitting around in 100 years.

Or that the technology that is used now will work. I can't imagine that the first package of frozen peas would be edible now, even it it had been in a freezer for the past 70 years.

 

[K_Z]

If you're willing to have your entire body (or even just your head) preserved cryogenically then you can wait to be defrosted and find out how far medicine advanced. Of course you'll pay up the wazoo to be preserved and chances are good that it will be many decades or perhaps a century or more until such time as they have the ability to bring you back from your deep freeze, but you too can be a part of the future if you so desire and can afford it.

As of now though, no dice. Jahi is not alive, not even a little bit. She died in December.

Yeah that is of course assuming that a century from now someone will be willing to spend the time and money to take your frozen head and provide a body for it! LOL.

That sort of thing will NEVER be cheap and I sure wouldn't bank on some weird company carrying through with the expense to restore all of the random bodies/heads they have sitting around in 100 years.

Or that the technology that is used now will work. I can't imagine that the first package of frozen peas would be edible now, even it it had been in a freezer for the past 70 years.

Lol-- frozen peas.

The whole cryonics thing is hilarious, IMO. "Frosty Cool Embalming Solution"! Mmmmm.....

Let's all hum a tune from the Disney movie "Frozen"!

"Do you want to build a snow man........"! :floorlaugh:

 

[NevadaMom]

I find it very curious that we haven't seen any more of the hand-holding photos for nearly two weeks.....

But do you *really* want to?


Wouldn't there be visible "weight loss" even in the hands? Especially since she was a fairly big girl to begin with, and the muscles and tendons in the hands haven't been used in many weeks. You'd really notice the change, no?

I stop adding sugar to my coffee and a few weeks later my rings that fit just fine now spin freely around my fingers.

 

[Leilei]

But do you *really* want to?


Wouldn't there be visible "weight loss" even in the hands? Especially since she was a fairly big girl to begin with, and the muscles and tendons in the hands haven't been used in many weeks. You'd really notice the change, no?

I stop adding sugar to my coffee and a few weeks later my rings that fit just fine now spin freely around my fingers.

Nope, not me, I don't even want to think about what a picture might show.

Poor Jahi

 

[Donjeta]

Two Woodside High School varsity boys basketball players were beaten, gagged, duct-taped to chairs and had their faces painted with lipstick as part of a hazing by fellow teammates during a recent Central Valley road trip, according to an attorney for one of the boy’s’ families.

The attorney, Christopher Dolan of San Francisco, is exploring possible legal action against the Sequoia Union High School District over the incidents.

http://blog.sfgate.com/matierandross/2014/01/19/woodside-coaches-bounced-over-alleged-player-hazing/

Dolan, by the way, is the same lawyer representing the family of Jahi McMath, the 13-year-old girl who was declared brain dead following after a tonsillectomy at Children’s Hospital Oakland. She is now being cared for at an undisclosed facility back East.

BBM. Back east?

 

[NevadaMom]

http://blog.sfgate.com/matierandross/2014/01/19/woodside-coaches-bounced-over-alleged-player-hazing/



BBM. Back east?

An assumption based on the prior talk of the hairdressers place, and CD's remarks about laws in other states - specifically states on the east coast... ??

 

[I Object!]

Keep in mind there are few places WEST of Oakland. Any facility is likely to be east of Oakland, regardless of the distance. That reporter has absolutely zero knowledge of where she is.

http://blog.sfgate.com/matierandross/2014/01/19/woodside-coaches-bounced-over-alleged-player-hazing/



BBM. Back east?

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://blog.sfgate.com/matierandross/2014/01/19/woodside-coaches-bounced-over-alleged-player-hazing/



BBM. Back east?

:silenced:

 

[Linda7NJ]

:silenced:

Sounds like a slam dunk case IMO.


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[QueenD]

But do you *really* want to?


Wouldn't there be visible "weight loss" even in the hands? Especially since she was a fairly big girl to begin with, and the muscles and tendons in the hands haven't been used in many weeks. You'd really notice the change, no?

I stop adding sugar to my coffee and a few weeks later my rings that fit just fine now spin freely around my fingers.

I was thinking the body would be retaining the fluids? <modsnip>

Wasn't the body supposedly given a feeding tube? How is that going to exist with no brain waves to tell it to poo and pee it out? Just curious.