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Wwhere is the pic of travis butler?
Sorry, thought it had been linked.
Travis M. Butler – The Charley Project
Wwhere is the pic of travis butler?
I can see some resemblances but I dont think its him. I'm not qualified to rule anybody in or out either lol I think we are all anxious for this 1 to be resolved. It is hard to blv this man walked onto a trail in what 2017? and nobody misses him by 2019? Its sad.
This is a real no for me based on this single image. Maybe another image would change my mind. Visually, with this small crop I say no.
Very aggravating Charley Project has the ability to post about him and yet significant detail such as eye color are missing. I also get frustrated with the limited images provided. Not Charley Projects fault, but just totally incomplete for so many in regard to basic identifiers.
Oh wow. I never realized it was ONE person. That is nuts. Amazing woman!The Charley project is a website run by one person, who does not get paid to do so. She is basically volunteers her time to maintain the site. If you have additional info on basic identifiers for a case, email her.. I’m sure she’d be glad to update her site with the info.
Usually around that 2 year mark I start believing the same thing. By then it seems like we start to see MP cases make it into NamUs and Charlie Project or the family has started making noise or a public request is made to media and some of us push for their enty into databases. I was thinking about that last night. A woman on another thread isnt listed yet but she's only been missing about 6 months. Typically, in a case that's not a popular, what's the average time it takes to see MP cases pop up on NamUs? I've never considered it but like to know that information. (I understand NamUs cant enter what isnt submitted & not all LE agencies enter cases). From the date reported missing to the date of entry into NamUs what is the average time frame? Idk why that seems important to me suddenly.Not everyone has good relationships with their families. But I feel like a lot of people have at least one or two friends, colleagues, or even acquaintances that would notice they were missing, unless the missing person gave them a reason in advance of why they’d be MIA for a while.
I genuinely think he was never reported missing and won’t be in any database. I don’t say that to deter anyone from trying to find matches by any means. But I just look at cases like Lyle Stevik and Lori ruff that had a large following, but no one ever came forward with enough info to be helpful in solving the case. Those cases were resolved thru dna, which now may be more difficult to do given the new GEDmatch TOS.
Usually around that 2 year mark I start believing the same thing. By then it seems like we start to see MP cases make it into NamUs and Charlie Project or the family has started making noise or a public request is made to media and some of us push for their enty into databases. I was thinking about that last night. A woman on another thread isnt listed yet but she's only been missing about 6 months. Typically, in a case that's not a popular, what's the average time it takes to see MP cases pop up on NamUs? I've never considered it but like to know that information. (I understand NamUs cant enter what isnt submitted & not all LE agencies enter cases). From the date reported missing to the date of entry into NamUs what is the average time frame? Idk why that seems important to me suddenly.
@Gardener1850 I can see how missing & UID cases fall through the cracks or remain listed long after resolution.
If LE entered ALL of MH's Identifiers in NamUs: his mDNA, nDNA, fingerprints, dentals then he WILL be excluded as a match one way or another unless a MP case has NO identifiers? Is that correct?
I cannot view what LE has entered for MH. All I can view is the basic info and 7 exclusions.
Oh wow. I never realized it was ONE person. That is nuts. Amazing woman!
So when you hear...They have checked his profile against the databases with no matches..what they are saying is they have scanned profiles that have dental/fingerprints..All other profiles in the database cannot be ruled out unless they have scars/tattoos that MH did not have..Once they have MH DNA..then they run the scan and all profiles that have DNA can be ruled out..and all that don't cannot be ruled out. So there can never be a complete rule out of the database until all profiles have DNA or dental or fingerprints
Ellie, I read about this when you posted awhile back and I certainly couldn’t rule him out.
Likewise, but now I cannot remember the circumstances of the missing Canadian boys, or their names. I do find this resemblance more striking than any other potential match that has been suggested for MH. @EllieGato can you repost the link to the boys' case please?