FL - Chad Oulson, 43, killed in Wesley Chapel theater shooting, 13 Jan 2014 *Former LE arrest*

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The law enforcement officer testifying right now, is intentionally raising her eyelids and not blinking during parts of her testimony, thus giving her a crazy appearance. It's sure making me wonder what is going on... and not in a good way.
 
Does anyone have a link to the witness lists in this case? It would be great to check out.
 
Wow just went back to see if I could find any witness list...It is mind blowing as to how many court resources, legal time and taxpayer $$ has been spent on this hot head bully since 2014. One document after another for all these years...hearings...depositions and so much more...then the big 2017 mini trial to try for stand your ground. Could not find witness list and with all the modifications it would need to be a current one. This is crazy.
 
Defense team has done very well so far. I also have a feeling the former officer (who took statements from Hamiltons') on the stand now will not hold-up on cross.

jmo
 
Break time. Didn't they just come back from lunch? I guess we're not going to hear the audio interview of Reeves by Det. Proctor.

ETA: Oh, I see now that we will be hearing the interview of Reeves.

Fun Fact: In the interview, you should be able to hear Det. Proctor telling Reeves that a Forensic Tech. is going to be testing him for GSR (gun shot residue on his hands). Reeves asks Proctor: "What's GSR?"
 
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alexwood said:
Break time. Didn't they just come back from lunch? I guess we're not going to hear the audio interview of Reeves by Det. Proctor.

ETA: Oh, I see now that we will be hearing the interview of Reeves.

Fun Fact: In the interview, you should be able to hear Det. Proctor telling Reeves that a Forensic Tech. is going to be testing him for GSR (gun shot residue on his hands). Reeves asks Proctor: "What's GSR?"
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Interesting. Did they have GSR tests in 1993 when he retired?
 
BeckyF said:
Yes, but the statement was not allowed in.
Curtis Reeves had previous run-ins with moviegoers, but they won't be heard (abcactionnews.com)
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I believe that he was also diagnosed with cancer, but that was after the shooting. He looks pretty robust to me. I have no idea what type of cancer or what his status is now. When this first happened (the shooting), I questioned whether he had a brain tumor. That was the only thing I could think of that would explain such an irrational act. I do believe that his health status will be brought up in the course of the trial.
 
Herat said:
So what percentage of people in a movie theater are carrying weapons?

Of all people, a retired policeman should have known how to reasonably approach someone.

Time in prison serves him right for killing the father of a three-year old who was texting his kid.
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Problem was, the man shot was standing, looming over the ex-cop, in the dark, shouting at him, and throwing a bag of popcorn apparently. In the dark, throwing a bag of popcorn would probably look much more threatening that it was. The Cop was sitting back in his chair. The cop thought the guy was going to attack him, with fists or worse, and he was in no position to defend against an attack by a much younger man, sitting sunken back in a movie theater chair. I think it will be found that under the laws of Florida, he was justified to shoot the man threatening him, especially because he was elderly and unable to defend himself except in the way he did. I believe the cop will be acquitted, or else get a hung jury.

IMO, a husband and a father with responsibilities toward his family should know better than to loom over an elderly man and act in a threatening manner-- especially one who is sitting back in his chair and positionally at a disadvantage. If the rules of the theater say say to put away your cellphone, then put away your cellphone. Those rules are there for a purpose and texting/talking during a performance that other people have paid money to see is rude. People need to be polite in public. Never argue with a stranger! I remember my father taught me that.

By saying the victim made a huge mistake and got himself killed, I am not victim bashing, just making the point in a state like Florida, where concealed carry of a deadly weapon is legal, people need to be smart and assume that other people are carrying, and refrain from confrontations with strangers that could get you killed.
 
Trebor5591 said:
Problem was, the man shot was standing, looming over the ex-cop, in the dark, shouting at him, and throwing a bag of popcorn apparently. In the dark, throwing a bag of popcorn would probably look much more threatening that it was. The Cop was sitting back in his chair. The cop thought the guy was going to attack him, with fists or worse, and he was in no position to defend against an attack by a much younger man, sitting sunken back in a movie theater chair. I think it will be found that under the laws of Florida, he was justified to shoot the man threatening him, especially because he was elderly and unable to defend himself except in the way he did. I believe the cop will be acquitted, or else get a hung jury.

IMO, a husband and a father with responsibilities toward his family should know better than to loom over an elderly man and act in a threatening manner-- especially one who is sitting back in his chair and positionally at a disadvantage. If the rules of the theater say say to put away your cellphone, then put away your cellphone. Those rules are there for a purpose and texting/talking during a performance that other people have paid money to see is rude. People need to be polite in public. Never argue with a stranger! I remember my father taught me that.

By saying the victim made a huge mistake and got himself killed, I am not victim bashing, just making the point in a state like Florida, where concealed carry of a deadly weapon is legal, people need to be smart and assume that other people are carrying, and refrain from confrontations with strangers that could get you killed.
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I agree with so much you've stated.
 
Trebor5591 said:
Problem was, the man shot was standing, looming over the ex-cop, in the dark, shouting at him, and throwing a bag of popcorn apparently. In the dark, throwing a bag of popcorn would probably look much more threatening that it was. The Cop was sitting back in his chair. The cop thought the guy was going to attack him, with fists or worse, and he was in no position to defend against an attack by a much younger man, sitting sunken back in a movie theater chair. I think it will be found that under the laws of Florida, he was justified to shoot the man threatening him, especially because he was elderly and unable to defend himself except in the way he did. I believe the cop will be acquitted, or else get a hung jury.

IMO, a husband and a father with responsibilities toward his family should know better than to loom over an elderly man and act in a threatening manner-- especially one who is sitting back in his chair and positionally at a disadvantage. If the rules of the theater say say to put away your cellphone, then put away your cellphone. Those rules are there for a purpose and texting/talking during a performance that other people have paid money to see is rude. People need to be polite in public. Never argue with a stranger! I remember my father taught me that.

By saying the victim made a huge mistake and got himself killed, I am not victim bashing, just making the point in a state like Florida, where concealed carry of a deadly weapon is legal, people need to be smart and assume that other people are carrying, and refrain from confrontations with strangers that could get you killed.
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Just noticed in that post you quoted it said he was texting his kid. Turned out that wasn't true.
 
Yes true that Pasco County did not do well and some mistakes were made...but the big mistake was by CR. That tape is appalling listening to him developing his self defense case right there....his wife must have been cringing listening to that again. Guilty no question. Sure Chad could have been the adult in the room but he did not deserve to be shot and killed.
 
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