FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen *4 Guilty* #24

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Per Alex Morris, Charlie’s objection ‘expanded’ from an objection of Rashbaum conducting the cross examination of Charlie to Rashbaum’s continued representation of his mother. Not sure where the second part came in? I didn’t hear anything today re Charlie reversing his decision on Rashbaum representing Donna. I never heard that brought up at any point today - did anyone else hear this being brought up?
 
Per Alex Morris, Charlie’s objection ‘expanded’ from an objection of Rashbaum conducting the cross examination of Charlie to Rashbaum’s continued representation of his mother. Not sure where the second part came in? I didn’t hear anything today re Charlie reversing his decision on Rashbaum representing Donna. I never heard that brought up at any point today - did anyone else hear this being brought up?
I believe that is what Rashbaum is talking about starting at 4:52:10 below. Also see approx 11:00 to approx 15:00 below. JMO.
 
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I believe that is what Rashbaum is talking about starting at 4:52:10 below. Also see approx 11:00 to approx 15:00 below. JMO.

Okay makes sense... I wasn’t thinking... I did hear that earlier but foolishly thought the ‘waiver’ Rashbaum was referring to was just addressing Rashbaum’s ability to conduct the cross examination of Charlie – NOT from representation of Donna. Thanks!
 
Charlie thinks that DR knows too much to allow any of his team to cross-examine. But wait a minute: Doesn't Donna herself know everything that DR knows?
 
Agree. The performance of her life, one of them anyway. I absolutely think this is strategized, if not by Rashy, by the attorneys at his firm, or, who knows, maybe through the team of lawyers that Wendi has. And I agree, it is all to protect Wendi.

I believe the whole strategy from the beginning with representing both mother and son was an effort to have any conviction overturned on appeal and hope that Georgia retires. Keep getting new trial issues to hope the State gives up. I absolutely think it was a strategy, I don't think her tears were real, I don't believe she only found out at the hearing, & there is no way that she didn't well understand. And Charlie, like he always does running his big mouth, did the equivalent with his smile and smirk in his mug shot. It was a plan.

Think about it. Even with the A insanity to believe that Charlie was going home, with the texts, emails, checks she wrote, there is no rational person who believes that she is going to get an acquittal. Her best case scenario (without some nefarious intervention) is a hung jury, which means she sits in jail awaiting yet another trial. So no matter what, she is sitting in jail. I think it is further delay hoping that the state will not arrest Wendi because they want her testifying at Donna's trial. What I need to hear is from someone like Tim or a Florida attorney of a high caliber who can come up with ways that the state could get all that they need against Donna from Wendi without using Wendi .

But I think it is so important to see her on the stand. I think that was part of the key for why Charlie got convicted. It was obvious she was lying & helped the State's case. Also, the name change, the GeekSquad TV visit, the history of her and Dan with their divorce documents, she is the one who authenticates all that. I just don't know how you get all that in without her. But I'm sure there is a way so maybe they can try mother and daughter at the same trial and go get W now.
Right. Remember her list about who she wanted to sue.
The A’s have been playing games with the law for decades.
Tim J is too connected with the Tallahassee court to be objective.
He would not admit the state or the judge were in error. Until the end of the day.
I had respect for the Judge until he laughed twice today like this is a big joke.
Maybe he knows much of it is his fault for even allowing Rashbaum to represent two family members back to back.
How is it all the sleuths without a law degree saw this coming and the judge didn’t?
Somehow with the new developments with Markus recently, there just may be so much more involved.
 
Agree. The performance of her life, one of them anyway. I absolutely think this is strategized, if not by Rashy, by the attorneys at his firm, or, who knows, maybe through the team of lawyers that Wendi has. And I agree, it is all to protect Wendi.

I believe the whole strategy from the beginning with representing both mother and son was an effort to have any conviction overturned on appeal and hope that Georgia retires. Keep getting new trial issues to hope the State gives up. I absolutely think it was a strategy, I don't think her tears were real, I don't believe she only found out at the hearing, & there is no way that she didn't well understand. And Charlie, like he always does running his big mouth, did the equivalent with his smile and smirk in his mug shot. It was a plan.

I'm starting to believe this scenario. GC is only 48 years old though. A more likely case is that she goes into private practice but even if that happens, I don't see the State giving up. I am concerned about the more elderly witnesses in this case (and their memories) if this drags on for three to five more years, including for the other two family members.

All in all, this orchestration would mean that DA is willing to spend her seventies in the Leon County Jail to keep WA free, to take care of the grandchildren.
 
9/17/24


"In short, I need time to regroup," he said.

Because conflict issues are "so severe," Everett chose to not proceed with the trial, setting a case management hearing for Oct. 15 at 2:30 p.m.
 
In hindsight and in light of what actually unfolded in the last 48 hours, there are probably many issues that could have arisen because of the Rashbaum conflict of counsel issue. Yes, IMO, the court should have asked for that waiver but, as I understand it, Charlie could have changed his mind at anytime and revoked his decision to waive privilege. Hypothetically if Charlie did have a waiver in place AND he changed his mind mid trial and revoked the waiver / privilege, that state would have been forced to drop him from the witness list. Today we learned that they only intended to call him as a rebuttal witness, but depending on Donna defense, Uffemans motion could be a blessing in disguise for the state. There could have been a scenario where they wanted to call Charlie but couldn’t because of an appellate concern. I predict that in many places (specifically meaning those that cover the case), Rashbaun’s name is going to be dragged through the mud, but I think equal blame is to be shared by the Tallahassee DA’s office and Judge Everett. We should have never gotten to this point. To quote Carl Steinback – “This was avoidable” – I think he said that :)
You are right. When I heard the Judge laughing today and making a joke of the hearing by his comments, I realized that he knew he messed up. This is a very serious issue and not to be taken lightly. His joking and laughing-I found very disturbing tbh.
 
I'm starting to believe this scenario. GC is only 48 years old though. A more likely case is that she goes into private practice but even if that happens, I don't see the State giving up. I am concerned about the more elderly witnesses in this case (and their memories) if this drags on for three to five more years, including for the other two family members.

All in all, this orchestration would mean that DA is willing to spend her seventies in the Leon County Jail to keep WA free, to take care of the grandchildren.
Georgia is also still on faculty at FSU.
There may be lots more to this case that she knows of that we don’t.
Theres lots of politics..think the recent issues with Markus.
I’ll leave it at that,.
 
How very frustrating! With hindsight though, it's not completely unexpected that this family would manage to throw some sort of legal spanner in the works to disrupt the trial. That's how they are, what they do. I hope DA's bill for the disruption is huge!
 

Per Alex Morris, Charlie’s objection ‘expanded’ from an objection of Rashbaum conducting the cross examination of Charlie to Rashbaum’s continued representation of his mother. Not sure where the second part came in? I didn’t hear anything today re Charlie reversing his decision on Rashbaum representing Donna. I never heard that brought up at any point today - did anyone else hear this being brought up?
How can he continue as her lead counsel?
 
Charlie thinks that DR knows too much to allow any of his team to cross-examine. But wait a minute: Doesn't Donna herself know everything that DR knows?
Maybe not. He might have not told his mother things he told Dan.
 

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