FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #13

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I’ve not ever heard law enforcement say the pings were no good either. Drew recently found an expert that said the ping study was no good, but we don’t know if law enforcement‘s experts agrees with his expert. They’ve never commented that I’m aware of. When given the opportunity, Rich Ring didn’t say they no good. I believe even if they can’t tell Jennifer’s exact location, they must know exactly what time Jennifer’s phone pinged last. Whatever happened to Jennifer happened around the time of that last ping. At one point it was said that both phones were pinging and both phones went silent at the same time. The timeframe between 10:20 and 10:40 is interesting, and I’ve thought for years that something had happened shortly after she got off the phone with Rob during that timeframe.

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IMO, the meeting with the Verizon "expert" was a matter of convenience or perhaps even necessary to totally discredit the cell phone ping study which included the time both phones went dead. It was important to discredit it to "cement" the morning abduction theory.

Prior to that everyone always said that both of those phones went dead at the same time. Both of them. And that time was 10:40 pm on January 23, 2006.

When I heard Richard Ring talk about the ping study in 2021 as if it still mattered, I said to myself that study stands and has never been officially discredited.

There was a case in 2006 in Seattle, Washington where a young woman was murdered by her husband. They had no physical evidence, but they had a ping study. They didn't try him until 2013 although he had always been the suspect. Between 2006 and 2013 they did a lot of work on the cell phone study. The presentation of the calls was amazing at trial. The jury convicted him.

I do not believe that Orlando, Florida is not as advanced as Seattle, Washington in such matters. Maybe if someone would open their minds and look at the study today advancements could be found strengthening the location evidence.

The chances of success from that are higher than hoping anything clearer can be done with the POI image.

Why won't they give it a chance?

Jennifer was 24 years old, not 24 months old. If she wanted to go out in the evening she had every right to do so. Nothing should have happened to her.

And it was fairly early evening, not the middle of the night.

 

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Prior to that everyone always said that both of those phones went dead at the same time. Both of them. And that time was 10:40 pm on January 23, 2006.

like if they went in a body of water?

 

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like if they went in a body of water?

They could have been thrown in, so yes. They both suddenly stopped working so being submerged in water might take a little longer as the water would seep in gradually. IDK, though.

I know for sure they searched the pond in front of the Mosiac complex. Other bodies of water were checked, too--nothing was ever found.

Nothing was ever found of Jennifer. Not an earring; not a shoe; nothing. Not a trace.

But I've been told when a phone suddenly stops communicating like that it is because its SIM card was removed or it has been destroyed in some manner. The phones were not simply turned off.

They could even have been run over by a vehicle.

 

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They could have been thrown in, so yes. They both suddenly stopped working so being submerged in water might take a little longer as the water would seep in gradually. IDK, though.

I know for sure they searched the pond in front of the Mosiac complex. Other bodies of water were checked, too--nothing was ever found.

Nothing was ever found of Jennifer. Not an earring; not a shoe; nothing. Not a trace.

But I've been told when a phone suddenly stops communicating like that it is because its SIM card was removed or it has been destroyed in some manner. The phones were not simply turned off.

They could even have been run over by a vehicle.

I’ll have to look I wonder if there are any high enough bridges around there

 

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What I took from the new info about Bo, was that there were two tracking dogs and they withheld the info about the dog who they believed had actually tracked the POI's scent (but meticulously searched the area). Even releasing that a scent was picked up in the area. Duh, how did we all miss it?

Beautiful Bo was simply used as a decoy for us bloggers or whatever they call us.

I understand that, though. Good on LE--they didn't want anyone in there, maybe disturbing evidence even though it turned out no evidence was found.

I pray that Jennifer's case gets to trial. I'll start there. But, yes, I'm sure that when a trial happens, if a trial happens, some defense atty will create all kinds of hoopla over the chain of evidence being broken and who knows what else they will come up with.

I hope LE had the foresight to think that through and were careful with what they released. The Kesses' settled, they didn't outright win their case. I suspect a settlement would have come with all kinds of restrictions, and all the Kesses' wanted was the tips anyway.

Maybe someone thought of Jennifer and tried to do the right thing.

Below is the image actually released through the media. It doesn't have so many definitions as are apparent in your images. Even looking at yours, I don't see what LE could have really done with it. I don't think there is enough mud to get an impression or enough imprint to be able to make out a shoe brand or size.

Jennifer Kesse’s family hopes recently released photos will lead to new tips in her disappearance

Drew and Joyce Kesse spent the last 18 months pouring over every detail of their missing daughter’s case file, which was jam-packed with 16,000 pages of notes, videos and photos, but one series of photos showing Jennifer Kesse’s car caught their attention.

www.fox13news.com

Wow. That went over my head. It is very strange that most of the stains are missing in the new image. I wonder what happened and when this was taken. Is it possible someone photoshopped the other stains out in order to highlight this? I have a few screenshots of the car after it was processed (notice the missing items and the fingerprint dust). Its of the passenger side, but those stains are still there. I don’t have a screenshot of the drivers side after the car was processed.

 

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Yes. Below is a Google maps screenshot with text boxes added to show where the witnesses were located. Some people who aren't familiar with the area might find it helpful.

Where it says "swerving black vehicle somewhere here" is the entrance/exit to the Mosiac, (Jenn's condo).

The witness even said she noticed the vehicle had 4 doors. I don't know. That would indicate serious swerving. She waited quite a long time before reporting what she had seen.

And no one else reported it at S

I‘m not sure if the roads have changed, but the subdivision that the old couple was pulling out of only has entrances on conroy. You can’t get out any other way. So if that was her car it either went left or right on a busy street-or- straight into a subdivision where the houses are built closely together and the only entry/exit is on the same busy street. Its strange that the car was driving erratic enough for her to count the doors. You’d think it would have hit a curb and ran through some grass or something.

Do we know if there was a guard in the shack Monday night thru Tuesday morning. I have in my notes a statement from a resident at the time Jennifer was there. On 48 hours she said the shack was manned 75% of the time. I know the guard was reported as being “lazy” but I’d think even a lazy guard would notice that. I know there was a guard by the time the Kesse’s got there. He said that on the Nancy Grace podcast.

 

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Yes, the whereabouts of the briefcase could be important depending on what she used it for and could offer a different motive for her disappearance. The Kesses should have an answer by now as to whether or not it is actually missing unless that information was held back. It would surprise me if it was held back, but if it was, I would have a tendency to believe it was never found as opposed to sitting in an OPD storage locker. Keep in mind, though, that it was never officially listed as missing.

Mr. Kesse once said that he "thought" he put the briefcase in Jennifer's trunk when he cleaned her car during the Christmas holidays of 2005. He was under the impression at that time that she didn't use it much. He said he never knew Jennifer to store her shoes in it. The briefcase and the huge amount of discussion around it are simply strange. IDK

That brown purse is still showing as missing on Jennifer's website. I was there the other day. And they have admitted it was found in her luggage.

They are not certain at all at this point that the outfit on the back of the chair was what Jennifer wore on Monday. When Drew answered the "Q & A" questions, he said they didn't know what she wore to work that day. He was asked the question and he simply stated "no". Couldn't get any clearer than that, right?

Speaking only for myself, the clothes on the bed indicate to me that she didn't sleep in her bed. It was supposed to be work outfits like skirts and blazers, that kind of thing. When asked to do a recreation, someone piled folded clothes on the bottom corner of the bed. Those outfits should have been left there as they were found. No one should have touched them until LE photographed them a cleared the condo. No one should have been going through that condo and changing everything around, no one.

They said Jennifer's table was still set for Christmas. How do they know it was still set for Christmas? Maybe Jennifer set it when she came home expecting someone. Law enforcement should have seen that. Photos should have been taken. It doesn't make sense that Jennifer would have gone away and left her table set with her brother and his buddies coming to stay for a few days. She knew they were going to drink and party.

So much was destroyed. So much.

It's also been said she picked her clothes in the morning before leaving for work--so we can take our pick as to what we believe, I guess.

Here is what's missing according to the FBI:
Missing items: (1) Verizon cell phone, (1) Nextel cell phone, Kesse’s Florida driver’s license, iPod, Kesse’s keys, and purse.

JENNIFER JOYCE KESSE - ORLANDO, FLORIDA | Federal Bureau of Investigation

Orlando, Florida January 24, 2006

www.fbi.gov

We don't know what was found inside the purse found in Jennifer's luggage which was found in the entrance area of Jennifer's condo unit. We don't know if it was empty or not. That was never publicly clarified.

So what about her wallet, her credit cards? We they missing? Why does it list her driver's license separately like that?

That's exactly what I'd take with me if I was going out: a limited amount of cash; my driver's license for ID; and my house key. In my day, we didn't have cell phones.

The iPod. Not much was ever said about that. (Except that the serial number given was incorrect. It did get corrected). Would you have any thoughts on what she might have used that for? Could it have been in the briefcase?

Another strange tidbit about the briefcase is we don’t have a description of it that I know of. You’d think that would be important for the public to know.
It is strange that the purse is still on the website. I’ve noticed that too. There could be more to the story or just an oversight. I’m not sure.
It is also strange the way the FBI listed the missing items. You’d think if there were missing credit cards, they note that and her wallet too. Plus the fact that they specifically state her dl is gone. I rarely change my wallet. I often change my purse. If there was a missing wallet, I would assume they know what it looks like.
I‘m not sure if you could play music in your car with an iPod in 2006. You may have just been able to listen with ear buds. She may have used it when working out.

Unless the dishes were Christmasy, I doubt they could tell if they were for Christmas. I wouldn’t leave a set table with Logan and his friends staying at my place over the weekend. I’ve seen their pictures and they liked to have fun.

 

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IMO, the meeting with the Verizon "expert" was a matter of convenience or perhaps even necessary to totally discredit the cell phone ping study which included the time both phones went dead. It was important to discredit it to "cement" the morning abduction theory.

Prior to that everyone always said that both of those phones went dead at the same time. Both of them. And that time was 10:40 pm on January 23, 2006.

When I heard Richard Ring talk about the ping study in 2021 as if it still mattered, I said to myself that study stands and has never been officially discredited.

There was a case in 2006 in Seattle, Washington where a young woman was murdered by her husband. They had no physical evidence, but they had a ping study. They didn't try him until 2013 although he had always been the suspect. Between 2006 and 2013 they did a lot of work on the cell phone study. The presentation of the calls was amazing at trial. The jury convicted him.

I do not believe that Orlando, Florida is not as advanced as Seattle, Washington in such matters. Maybe if someone would open their minds and look at the study today advancements could be found strengthening the location evidence.

The chances of success from that are higher than hoping anything clearer can be done with the POI image.

Why won't they give it a chance?

Jennifer was 24 years old, not 24 months old. If she wanted to go out in the evening she had every right to do so. Nothing should have happened to her.

And it was fairly early evening, not the middle of the night.

I’ve watched enough trials to know that these “experts” conflict each other in just about every one. Imo they can debate where she was all they want but the time of her last ping is set in stone. A 5th grader could look at the data and tell you that information. Hopefully the fdle will look at the cell phone data again.
I agree. 10:40 pm is not late for a 24 year old.

 

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They could have been thrown in, so yes. They both suddenly stopped working so being submerged in water might take a little longer as the water would seep in gradually. IDK, though.

I know for sure they searched the pond in front of the Mosiac complex. Other bodies of water were checked, too--nothing was ever found.

Nothing was ever found of Jennifer. Not an earring; not a shoe; nothing. Not a trace.

But I've been told when a phone suddenly stops communicating like that it is because its SIM card was removed or it has been destroyed in some manner. The phones were not simply turned off.

They could even have been run over by a vehicle.

Back then it was easy for the batteries to come off the phones. I dropped my phone a lot and the battery would always separate from the phone. The perp could have just done that.
I‘ve read that if you shut a phone down by powering it down, it communicates this with the tower. I’m not sure if this is accurate, but it’s what I’ve read.

 

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I’ll have to look I wonder if there are any high enough bridges around there

There are lots of lakes around the area that you could throw a phone into without being noticed. They could have been buried with her too (if she is buried that is).

 

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Here‘s an after processing photo of the car. Sorry it didn’t attach in the above post.

 

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Wow. That went over my head. It is very strange that most of the stains are missing in the new image. I wonder what happened and when this was taken. Is it possible someone photoshopped the other stains out in order to highlight this? I have a few screenshots of the car after it was processed (notice the missing items and the fingerprint dust). Its of the passenger side, but those stains are still there. I don’t have a screenshot of the drivers side after the car was processed.

I'm not sure which image you are referring to when you mention the "new" image.

The image I posted is linked to the media article it appeared in. They probably got it from Mr. Kesse and I wouldn't think they adjusted or altered the image.

Below is a quote from the article which leads me to believe it was one of the original series taken and processed by law enforcement around the 26th, the day the Malibu was found. Probably before any dusting for fingerprinting was done--just a guess, though.

I don't see much difference between your image and my image, except it looks like someone added a fair amount of contrast. The mat, itself, doesn't appear extremely soiled to me. Mr. Kesse has said they were doing construction work at Jenn's employment area, too; so dust would be constant. Unavoidable.

Snipped: Investigators also uncovered a previously unseen fingerprint belonging to the victim, as well as a large boot print near the gas pedal. The family is hoping that by sharing these photos with the public, someone will come forward with information.

Jennifer Kesse’s family hopes recently released photos will lead to new tips in her disappearance

Drew and Joyce Kesse spent the last 18 months pouring over every detail of their missing daughter’s case file, which was jam-packed with 16,000 pages of notes, videos and photos, but one series of photos showing Jennifer Kesse’s car caught their attention.

www.fox13news.com

I don't know that I've ever seen a picture of the full driver's seat and steering wheel area of Jennifer's vehicle. They never released that many. I know there is the blow-up of the center console clearly showing evidence of fingerprint dusting; one showing two pairs of Jennifer's sandals on the passenger side floor mat; and one showing the DVD player strapped in the backseat with the big blue beach ball trapped between the front and back seats.

If you come across any others, I hope you consider posting them for us. I'll be on the lookout for any that I think are "new", too.

I just noticed in the 2nd one you added that there are no sandals on the floor of the vehicle. That's interesting--there are some different ones out there then. What do you make of it? Maybe as the crime scene technicians processed the vehicle they set the sandals aside and took more images. This one managed to get released?

I'll re-link yours and the most common one side by side--just for comparison. It's hard to find the older ones now, especially with a linkable source.

FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #13

There were rumors in thread 2 and 4 way back in the day. Part 3 of the Greta special is interesting. So is Disappeared Girl Interrupted, Unconcluded 11, 31, and 49. It is interesting that we have never heard from any of her girlfriends at work. Surely she had a few. She seemed to bond with women...

www.websleuths.com

https://www.actus-reus.com/jennifer-kesse-evidence

 

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I‘m not sure if the roads have changed, but the subdivision that the old couple was pulling out of only has entrances on conroy. You can’t get out any other way. So if that was her car it either went left or right on a busy street-or- straight into a subdivision where the houses are built closely together and the only entry/exit is on the same busy street. Its strange that the car was driving erratic enough for her to count the doors. You’d think it would have hit a curb and ran through some grass or something.

Do we know if there was a guard in the shack Monday night thru Tuesday morning. I have in my notes a statement from a resident at the time Jennifer was there. On 48 hours she said the shack was manned 75% of the time. I know the guard was reported as being “lazy” but I’d think even a lazy guard would notice that. I know there was a guard by the time the Kesse’s got there. He said that on the Nancy Grace podcast.

Oh. I have to go back and check for sure, but that's Moxie. Both vehicles would have to go left or right onto Conroy, I think. I wouldn't expect either would intend to drive straight across the busy street. Maybe I'm not making sense, though.

I'm going to go back to Google maps, and see if I can get a screenshot of the area in 2007. (I'm sure I can't get 2006). I know the lady witness said she was taking her husband to the hospital for his first chemo treatment. I don't know if that would require a left or right turn, but I'm sure she didn't intend to drive straight across Conroy and into the Mosiac at the Millenia Condominium complex.

Especially not with a vehicle swerving like a pendulum coming straight at her.

That's interesting, though, because Mrs. Kesse said that she believed Jennifer would attempt to crash the vehicle rather than let an abductor take her to another location.

The same witness said she feels trafficking was behind Jennifer's disappearance. Mrs. Kesse also believed that at one time--I don't know if she still does.

I wonder if they ever met.

All I remember hearing is that they always left the gates in the up position at the Mosiac when Jennifer lived there due to the constant construction.

It should have been a memorable event, so if someone was manning the booth one would think he would have some memory of it.

I'll get back to this with a better image. I might need to look up the podcast for what the witness actually said. I know she was interviewed.

(I'm falling behind or I would do it now).

 

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I'm not sure which image you are referring to when you mention the "new" image.

The image I posted is linked to the media article it appeared in. They probably got it from Mr. Kesse and I wouldn't think they adjusted or altered the image.

Below is a quote from the article which leads me to believe it was one of the original series taken and processed by law enforcement around the 26th, the day the Malibu was found. Probably before any dusting for fingerprinting was done--just a guess, though.

I don't see much difference between your image and my image, except it looks like someone added a fair amount of contrast. The mat, itself, doesn't appear extremely soiled to me. Mr. Kesse has said they were doing construction work at Jenn's employment area, too; so dust would be constant. Unavoidable.

Snipped: Investigators also uncovered a previously unseen fingerprint belonging to the victim, as well as a large boot print near the gas pedal. The family is hoping that by sharing these photos with the public, someone will come forward with information.

Jennifer Kesse’s family hopes recently released photos will lead to new tips in her disappearance

Drew and Joyce Kesse spent the last 18 months pouring over every detail of their missing daughter’s case file, which was jam-packed with 16,000 pages of notes, videos and photos, but one series of photos showing Jennifer Kesse’s car caught their attention.

www.fox13news.com

I don't know that I've ever seen a picture of the full driver's seat and steering wheel area of Jennifer's vehicle. They never released that many. I know there is the blow-up of the center console clearly showing evidence of fingerprint dusting; one showing two pairs of Jennifer's sandals on the passenger side floor mat; and one showing the DVD player strapped in the backseat with the big blue beach ball trapped between the front and back seats.

If you come across any others, I hope you consider posting them for us. I'll be on the lookout for any that I think are "new", too.

I just noticed in the 2nd one you added that there are no sandals on the floor of the vehicle. That's interesting--there are some different ones out there then. What do you make of it? Maybe as the crime scene technicians processed the vehicle they set the sandals aside and took more images. This one managed to get released?

I'll re-link yours and the most common one side by side--just for comparison. It's hard to find the older ones now, especially with a linkable source.

FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #13

There were rumors in thread 2 and 4 way back in the day. Part 3 of the Greta special is interesting. So is Disappeared Girl Interrupted, Unconcluded 11, 31, and 49. It is interesting that we have never heard from any of her girlfriends at work. Surely she had a few. She seemed to bond with women...

www.websleuths.com

https://www.actus-reus.com/jennifer-kesse-evidence

The image I’m referring to as the new image is the one the media released recently pointing out the boot print. The images that have been floating around forever are from when Roger Brennan shared them in 2008. It shows him looking through the evidence folders. This is a newer show with some pieces of the one from 2008 mixed throughout. I’ll have to see if I can find the 2008 show. Some time stamps for car photos are around 14 and 19 minute marks.

Where is Jennifer Kesse?

A young woman vanishes from her Florida condo – security footage captures a phantom figure calmly parking her car. Is it the kidnapper? "48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant reports.

www.cbsnews.com

Here are the images side by side. The first one is the new one that was recently release. The second is from the 2008 show. I guess it is just the contrast, but I wonder why that changed. The older image looks much darker.

 

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Another strange tidbit about the briefcase is we don’t have a description of it that I know of. You’d think that would be important for the public to know.
It is strange that the purse is still on the website. I’ve noticed that too. There could be more to the story or just an oversight. I’m not sure.
It is also strange the way the FBI listed the missing items. You’d think if there were missing credit cards, they note that and her wallet too. Plus the fact that they specifically state her dl is gone. I rarely change my wallet. I often change my purse. If there was a missing wallet, I would assume they know what it looks like.
I‘m not sure if you could play music in your car with an iPod in 2006. You may have just been able to listen with ear buds. She may have used it when working out.

Unless the dishes were Christmasy, I doubt they could tell if they were for Christmas. I wouldn’t leave a set table with Logan and his friends staying at my place over the weekend. I’ve seen their pictures and they liked to have fun.

I'm sure Mr. Kesse has given a physical description of Jennifer's briefcase. I can't remember where, though. It might have been on a podcast. If I come across it, I'll drop in and link it. (If I can). Right now I'm drawing a blank; maybe someone else has it.

IIRC, he said it was brown in color. It was a gift from someone for graduation. Nothing out of the ordinary, but a good, practical briefcase. (I can't remember if he specified between hard or soft). He didn't seem to think she used it often.

Thanks for commenting on the iPod. It's strange that it's missing. I wonder when anyone last saw her with it and if it would have been something she would always use when she was exercising and/or driving. For example, was she attached to it like some people are attached to their cell phones or maybe it was something she would use only occasionally? Would she have taken it on vacation with her?

 

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I’ve watched enough trials to know that these “experts” conflict each other in just about every one. Imo they can debate where she was all they want but the time of her last ping is set in stone. A 5th grader could look at the data and tell you that information. Hopefully the fdle will look at the cell phone data again.
I agree. 10:40 pm is not late for a 24 year old.

What comes through for me when Jennifer's cell phone pings are discussed is they seem to look at one ping from one tower, then they look at the next ping from the next tower, and so on. I believe there were 8 or ten pings starting around 10:00 pm, IIRC.

Each individual tower has probably around a 20-mile radius. Jennifer's vehicle could have been anywhere in that radius. Then, if you move to another tower where another ping originated, again Jennifer's vehicle could have been anywhere in that radius.

What they can do, however, is triangulate those pings and it gives a much more accurate location. Most of those towers, especially in huge cities like Orlando, have sub-towers. Jennifer's phone could have pinged two or three sub-towers contained in the same tower. When they triangulate they can tell within a mile or so where the cell phone is. It's solid--not as good as GPS tracking but still good.

Apparently, there was a tower down in her area that night. That should not have been a problem because the phone company can tell exactly what tower went down, then know exactly when that tower went down, and they know the tower those calls would have been routed to. It's easy for them. They have to accurately keep track of that stuff for billing purposes.

And another important thing about that last ping--they said it was both phones. Suddenly they both pinged off the same tower and never made a sound again. Law enforcement or even the Kesses have never officially released that location. There are rumors but they could be incorrect.

 

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Back then it was easy for the batteries to come off the phones. I dropped my phone a lot and the battery would always separate from the phone. The perp could have just done that.
I‘ve read that if you shut a phone down by powering it down, it communicates this with the tower. I’m not sure if this is accurate, but it’s what I’ve read.

Yes, I think you're correct.

Notice when they "once upon a time" discussed the pings, they always referred to the pings at 10:40 pm as the "final" pings. That title, if you will, has some significance. I've read where a "final" ping from a cell phone is used to reference its last attempt at communication. They are computers and when they realize they are "dying", they put out a final signal which is different from when they are powered down.

It's hard to get a phone company to confirm that. Some things are meant for law enforcement, I think.

JMO

 

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Here‘s an after processing photo of the car. Sorry it didn’t attach in the above post.

Gosh, you have another one I haven't seen. Thank you for posting.

 

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The image I’m referring to as the new image is the one the media released recently pointing out the boot print. The images that have been floating around forever are from when Roger Brennan shared them in 2008. It shows him looking through the evidence folders. This is a newer show with some pieces of the one from 2008 mixed throughout. I’ll have to see if I can find the 2008 show. Some time stamps for car photos are around 14 and 19 minute marks.

Where is Jennifer Kesse?

A young woman vanishes from her Florida condo – security footage captures a phantom figure calmly parking her car. Is it the kidnapper? "48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant reports.

www.cbsnews.com

Here are the images side by side. The first one is the new one that was recently release. The second is from the 2008 show. I guess it is just the contrast, but I wonder why that changed. The older image looks much darker.

Yes, it's interesting. They probably do it for exactly the same reason we do it--to get a better definition. Not sure, though.

I didn't realize the photo was available since 2008. Huh, not even that was new info. I do not know why I'm surprised.

Thanks for the link. I'm gonna watch it again. I'm sure I must have seen it before. Probably more than once, but I didn't catch the new images of the vehicle.

(I didn't see your newest comments when I was nattering away earlier. Sorry. It makes more sense now).

 

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I'm sure Mr. Kesse has given a physical description of Jennifer's briefcase. I can't remember where, though. It might have been on a podcast. If I come across it, I'll drop in and link it. (If I can). Right now I'm drawing a blank; maybe someone else has it.

IIRC, he said it was brown in color. It was a gift from someone for graduation. Nothing out of the ordinary, but a good, practical briefcase. (I can't remember if he specified between hard or soft). He didn't seem to think she used it often.

Thanks for commenting on the iPod. It's strange that it's missing. I wonder when anyone last saw her with it and if it would have been something she would always use when she was exercising and/or driving. For example, was she attached to it like some people are attached to their cell phones or maybe it was something she would use only occasionally? Would she have taken it on vacation with her?

I would think she took it on vacation but maybe not since she was with her boyfriend. It may have just been left in the car. Perhaps the perp took and destroyed it too because he thought they may be able to track it. Maybe it was in the overnight bag or purse and not found until years later. Maybe it was in the briefcase. I’m not sure how often she used it. I don’t recall much discussion revolving around the missing iPod. Just that it’s missing and those smarter than me, know the serial number is incorrect on the fbi poster.