Found Deceased FL - Lane Graves, 2, Walt Disney World, 14 June 2016 #1

[Ray_of_hope]

I think that Sheriff Demings has been very compassionate and professional in handling this case. What a tragic week also for LE. Many thanks to them.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

To anyone who thought Disney would work overtime and have the story buried ...
This story has two headlines on one Australian news site and its everywhere. You cannot bury things so easily in the age of the Internet, when news travels to the other side of the world in seconds. It's on People, who are saying a) that Disney has had to remove alligators before and b) that Disney confirmed they have no signage warning of alligators. http://www.people.com/article/disne...-removes-gators-from-area-where-boy-was-taken

Let's see if it's still bring reported on in a week, and how much of the coverage blames Disney for what happened. I don't think anyone thought the story wouldn't get media attention. Disney knows a child dying at their park will be a huge story.


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[Nancee Drue]

I have stayed at the Grand Floridian. I remember the lagoon nearby the hotel. We walked along that beach. I remember the water looked dirty. I don't recall seeing any "no swimming" signs. My kids threw rocks into the water, and we were not afraid of alligators, however we imagined they were in the lagoon.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

I doubt it for now...he drowned, as you probably already know, he wouldn't look "ok enough". I am sure they will be able to though at some point. Those poor people.

Perhaps, but we are all so individual in our grief. Sadly, I've been involved in so many different scenarios. I just hope their wishes are respected. It helps to bring peace. I'm sure they will be which is so important.

 

[Jax49]

I was just reading on the Orlando Sentinel that they weren't in the water at all! So much contradictory information at this point in time still.



The body was found 10-15 yards in, according to that article.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...-dragged-alligator-disney-20160614-story.html

That story has been modified.

In response to reports the family was watching a hotel-sponsored movie near the shore, Disney said it hosts such events but believed the film ended before the attack. The family was sitting near the water in a play area and the child somehow got in the water, officials said.

 

[cvaldez1975]

I saw his pic too, what a little cutie pie, what a tragedy for his parents. I cant believe it. im so sorry.

 

[Eloise]

That story has been modified.

In response to reports the family was watching a hotel-sponsored movie near the shore, Disney said it hosts such events but believed the film ended before the attack. The family was sitting near the water in a play area and the child somehow got in the water, officials said.

Damn, they literally just changed that then. "Somehow got in the water"

 

[krkrjx]

From all I have heard this appears to be a horrible tragedy, with no one to blame. Things happen sometimes without warning and without anyone having reason to anticipate it in advance. My heart goes out to the family; I cannot imagine what it would be like to witness such an attack on any small child, particularly my own. But per reports, there was no reason for them to suspect danger of this sort and I do not see anything that indicates they were negligent or put their child in harm's way. Nor do I see reason to point any fingers at the theme park or its personnel. Life is risky, messy, often unfair, and sometimes just plain horrifying.

 

[Dockins]

Before I even begin to think about who or what could have prevented this, I'm only thinking about offering compassion to all involved. Clearly, no one would have imagined this would happen where it did.
I recall driving to work on Tamiami trail and seeing a large gator scale a concrete barrier on the highway!

 

[LinasK]

Body was found fully intact? Weird. I wonder why the gator left it alone?

Well, then he died by drowning. At least that's more humane.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Now I'm wondering if he could have been saved!

 

[LinasK]

Yes. It's easy for me to say this, and I realise the actual blessing would be the child being alive, but I think this is a great blessing for the family. To have a body that looks like their son that they can bury with dignity is so much better than what potentially could have happened.

Yes, drowning is preferable to being unrecognizable because he was prey.

 

[LinasK]

Now I'm wondering if he could have been saved!

Doubtful. Gators have strong jaws. It wouldn't have taken long for him to submerge the boy and drown him. It only takes minutes to drown, not hours (sorry to be so graphic- my daughter is in training right now to be a lifeguard).

 

[Isabelle]

Now I'm wondering if he could have been saved!

Gator probably went under with him, could have swam out a ways and came back to where he let the boy go. In the darkness people were prob unable to see much water movement due to gator swimming. So horrible, beyond what words could express.

 

[Migmuu]

I don't blame the parents. Sure, they made a mistake by letting the boy play in the water, but they're from Nebraska. They don't know that you should treat every body of water here as if there's an alligator in each one, and they certainly didn't know that "No Swimming" meant there were possibly some in the water... in freaking Disney. The last thing you think to encounter in Disney is an alligator.

I just want to remind everyone that there are almost 20 million people living in Florida and at least 1 million alligators. You'd think people were getting eaten left and right, but there were only ~10 attacks last year (only one of them fatal). Not to mention that this is Disney's first ever alligator attack in over 70 years of operation. I promise you, so long as you exercise common sense - keep your distance, don't go swimming in unclear waters, don't tease the alligators for giggles, etc -, there is no reason to be afraid of them. They aren't aggressive man-eating beasts, they're just creatures trying to get along in life.

 

[FindingTheMissing]

This is just horrible! I saw an article last night when this first happened and I thought there's no way that child will be found. I've never been so happy to be wrong!! I am thankful that the parents will be able to bury their child because I can't imagine not being able to do that.

Having said that, while I don't blame the parents, I do have to wonder how they thought it was safe to have little ones near a body of water, in Florida, and at night no less. It's no secret there are alligators! And there are signs posted about it not being a swimming area, so wading should be out of the question as well.

However, I cannot for the life of me understand why that area, or any area with a body of water in the park, is not cordoned off! Disney should have taken better precautions to keep an eye on these areas and make sure to know if alligators are in the water or not. It's common sense really! When you have nightly fireworks shows and families with children... and little ones are always attracted to water... this just seems like a huge mistake on their part. And accident yes, but one that was just waiting to happen in my opinion. I am just so angry!! And I'm trying to understand. Why??! It just seems like this could have been prevented! It should have been prevented!! My gosh, this poor family. My heart breaks for them. RIP little Lane :tears:

 

[Migmuu]

This is just horrible! I saw an article last night when this first happened and I thought there's no way that child will be found. I've never been so happy to be wrong!! I am thankful that the parents will be able to bury their child because I can't imagine not being able to do that.

Having said that, while I don't blame the parents, I do have to wonder how they thought it was safe to have little ones near a body of water, in Florida, and at night no less. It's no secret there are alligators! And there are signs posted about it not being a swimming area, so wading should be out of the question as well.

However, I cannot for the life of me understand why that area, or any area with a body of water in the park, is not cordoned off! Disney should have taken better precautions to keep an eye on these areas and make sure to know if alligators are in the water or not. It's common sense really! When you have nightly fireworks shows and families with children... and little ones are always attracted to water... this just seems like a huge mistake on their part. And accident yes, but one that was just waiting to happen in my opinion. I am just so angry!! And I'm trying to understand. Why??! It just seems like this could have been prevented! It should have been prevented!! My gosh, this poor family. My heart breaks for them. RIP little Lane :tears:

Disney does take precautions against alligators, though. They regularly have people go through and make sure there are none on their property, and if there are, they fish them out immediately. However, sometimes an alligator does get through, because the water is their natural habitat and they can't prevent every single one from coming through. They don't have a 24/7 alligator patrol.

They shouldn't have to block off every body of water with a fence because of the one-in-a-million chance that somebody might be attacked by an alligator, something that had never happened before in over 70 years of operation. Especially when they already had a "NO SWIMMING" sign.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I cant imagine the sheer hell it is to leave there, getting on the plane to go home. Ugh.

Perhaps Disney will send them home with Lane in a private plane. Otherwise wouldn't Lane have to be transported in the cargo area? I wouldn't be able to handle that as a parent.

 

[LLC]

Disney does take precautions against alligators, though. They regularly have people go through and make sure there are none on their property, and if there are, they fish them out immediately. However, sometimes an alligator does get through, because the water is their natural habitat and they can't prevent every single one from coming through. They don't have a 24/7 alligator patrol.

They shouldn't have to block off every body of water with a fence because of the one-in-a-million chance that somebody might be attacked by an alligator, something that had never happened before in over 70 years of operation. Especially when they already had a "NO SWIMMING" sign.

They only remove gators that are more than 4ft long and/or "nuisance" gators.

 

[LLC]

Perhaps Disney will send them home with Lane in a private plane. Otherwise wouldn't Lane have to be transported in the cargo area? I wouldn't be able to handle that as a parent.

Oh yes I'm sure they will use a private plane but they have 2 other children...I doubt they would subject them to that...

Idk. Its all so gut wrenching. Even the logistics of it seem impossible.

Disney is everywhere, tv, commercials, advertising etc. to be reminded constantly for life seems like a tragedy in & of itself.