Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #13

[IzzyBlanche]

Thank you for that, Izzy.

I do try to own my mistakes. You're welcome.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I found a link to all the audio/video without commentary from GTC the one you might have not heard, starts at 3:18:00

@ttjo — thank you SO MUCH for posting this. There was a lot to learn from the March 1 LE vehicle recording and I had not heard it nor seen a link for it.

Like in her other encounters with LE, she is mostly so detached — it’s just shocking and infuriating. MOO.

 

[iamshadow21]

@ttjo — thank you SO MUCH for posting this. There was a lot to learn from the March 1 LE vehicle recording and I had not heard it nor seen a link for it.

Like in her other encounters with LE, she is mostly so detached — it’s just shocking. MOO.

She reminds me of the maxim that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. She's the living embodiment of couldn't care less for all the things that horrify most of us to the most extreme degree.

MOO

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Something I have never been able to put together is: even with a sleeping pill and some white noise from a “rain shower” on her BR TV, if JS slept with her door open so the cat could come and go (and her sleep was light enough to hear SS come use the bathroom), how did she not hear some of the various “activities” that occurred that night?

Someone going up and down the stairs with a heavy load?
Did the noises the housemate heard through the wall not also come through the ceiling?
She heard noises in the kitchen that morning, why not during the night when we think an outside door might have opened?

Also, if JS was still on her way home from work that Sunday night, how did she know SS arrived at her townhouse 10 minutes after Maddie got home? Unless she was there?

To me, I think further denial and untruths. OMO.

 

[ttjo]

Gary Brucato said he thought MS was murdered because she'd become a threat in terms of disclosure, she needed to be "eliminated." SS had to "get rid of" the victim to preserve himself, to protect himself from some kind of disclosure. Something had changed for SS, something was on the horizon, something bad for him. And agreed, imo the jig for SS was going to be up soon. He knew it, I think JS sensed it.

so could the disclosure be that she was about to tell someone what was going on? That doesnt even have to mean to Jenn, it could mean to disclose to someone else, ( who knows what jenn knew or did about it ) or would the inevitable disclosure be a perceived pregnancy scare.

SS & JS broke up around Christmas 2022, I see sources suggesting this was because they were no longer intimate. The Christmas tree is still up in JS's room, they broke up around Christmas, and imo someone (JS?) was perhaps having difficulties accepting this breakup. So he was still regularly in that house with that Christmas tree marking time, so to speak. (Speculating, obviously)

MOO, I don't think this is a ring, I don't think he had any help in terms of an accomplice. He had help in the form of knowing the personality and routines of those he was in the home with, and he successfully exploited his position so he could commit his wicked deeds. Had he received actual assistance in his murder, he wouldn't in essence have handed himself over to authorities on a silver platter.

A spoiled little boy who is a self proclaimed ": serial shopper" and doesnt take no for an answer, if he wants something he will get it.

I don't care what he's saying now, it's way too late for him to fool anyone, there's no, no doubt in my mind he'll be convicted of murder. I think he's an extremely, extremely stealthy predator but was out of his depths when it came to murder. SS does really seem to fit the Brucato "elimination murderer" mold. In the end, with someone like SS, he is the center of his universe and the universe he constructs around himself. (MOO, obviously.)

I believe this part about the universe he constructs around himself, could be why he thinks he can plant seeds and people will buy in.
like stopping at mcdonalds and "she 86'd the idea " so he went around again and said : are you sure" and "she wasnt interested." Mcdonalds was a block from the school, did he think she'd be more interested 30 seconds later?
doesnt even make sense to ask, let alone that she was likely already deceased. Just wave your red flag.
The vape shop. going an hour early, In case thy opened early, then leaving right when it opens only to go back later when he knew for sure it would be open...
Going back for the clicker when he was already at the school
leaving his phone at home to avoid location tracking , but caught on 20,000 cameras. ( that one is funny to me)
Does he listen to himself? hes not part of any ring, he's too clued out(IMO).
He just wanted toys. A creep that put a little girl through hell for his perversions and toys, so that he could paint and "keep his hands busy" b/c he was too spoiled and lazy to get a job, and no skills to get a job he felt he deserved. I have no doubt he played that brain injury card to its absolute max.

 

[FromGermany1]

Makes me wonder if perhaps others (such as MS) were not allowed to take a phone to room #4? That was ‘SS’ room right? Or is it known how MS phone got into that unsecured space MS had in the living room that morning? There was also that early discussion or statements from JS or SS IIRC that they had checked her phone that morning? Something about anything possibly deleted from it or details on MS ‘crush’ was it?

Sadly….. the more revealed and understood and explained anew the more IMO it seems to implicate SS as well as perhaps JS? MOO

Did SS and MS in room #4 their gaming with a phone or a laptop? Do we know? So, when gaming happened with their phones, phones in general would have been allowed. Only in Maddie's last night Maddie's phone wasn't allowed perhaps, and we can very well assume, why not. IMO

 

[Poedelini]

Saturday the 24th is significant. MS is very upset. SS is upset and needs meds to calm himself down. JS forgot her meds on saturday.

Jmo

 

[FromGermany1]

Saturday the 24th is significant. MS is very upset. SS is upset and needs meds to calm himself down. JS forgot her meds on saturday.

Jmo

A BIG threat of some sort had just happened .... IMO.

ETA: Acc. to DS her son SS got a call from Maddie. Maybe, it is true. The content is unknown as it was certainly NOT the coming birthday party. IMO

 

[FromGermany1]

technical error

 

[Poedelini]

A BIG threat of some sort had just happened .... IMO.

Yes i believe so. There was no need for SS to be there. And it seems looking at the statements JS instigated coming over and getting those two (MS and SS) to bed together. And letting SS take her to school. Also no need, she had two days off. Not to mention her family who alway's took care of MS.

Jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes i believe so. There was no need for SS to be there. And it seems looking at the statements JS instigated coming over and getting those two (MS and SS) to bed together. And letting SS take her to school. Also no need, she had two days off. Not to mention her family who alway's took care of MS.

Jmo

The most logical and convenient plan for everyone would have been for Maddie to stay overnight at grandma's the night of the party.

So who insisted on SS being there? Was it JS or was it SS?

Maybe Maddie called SS telling him NOT to come and he showed up anyway, she resisted him, and she ends up dead?

jmo

 

[Poedelini]

The most logical and convenient plan for everyone would have been for Maddie to stay overnight at grandma's the night of the party.

So who insisted on SS being there? Was it JS or was it SS?

Maybe Maddie called SS telling him NOT to come and he showed up anyway, she resisted him, and she ends up dead?

jmo

Well JS needed a good nights of sleep because she felt off all day due to missing her meds on saturday.

1:19:25

 

[Inthedetails]

Well JS needed a good nights of sleep because she felt off all day due to missing her meds on saturday.

1:19:25

JS could''ve gotten her sleep just fine if Maddie stayed at grandma's house. That's what I'm saying. The solution to JS sleep issue wasn't SS being there to take Maddie to school, which he had never done, but that Maddie stay where the party was and grandma take her to school, as grandma had done before. Everyone would've been more comfortable, including the aunt who had to drive Maddie home at night.

opinion

jmo

 

[FromGermany1]

When Maddie did speak out to relatives, that she didn't want to go home, maybe the relatives thought "This is the little drama daughter of a drama mother, always lying like her mother does. So no reason for not bringing her back to her usually home, when demanded by JS."

 

[LoveyG]

Well JS needed a good nights of sleep because she felt off all day due to missing her meds on saturday.

1:19:25

Seems like feeling 'off' would be a good reminder to take your meds. Why did she go all day feeling 'off' rather than take her meds to improve the 'off' feeling? Personally, I don't accept her whole meds story.

 

[Mimimom]

I honestly can’t think of ANY reason to send a pre/teen daughter to bed with their father either! (Outside of child having medical needs that require 24 hr supervision?).

Absolutely agree, any decent man wouldn't allow it either. It's not appropriate

 

[PawneeDew]

JS could''ve gotten her sleep just fine if Maddie stayed at grandma's house. That's what I'm saying. The solution to JS sleep issue wasn't SS being there to take Maddie to school, which he had never done, but that Maddie stay where the party was and grandma take her to school, as grandma had done before. Everyone would've been more comfortable, including the aunt who had to drive Maddie home at night.

opinion

jmo

SS has taken Maddie to school, (at least once before) Maddie was embarrassed over S.S. dropping her off, according to JS. (S.S. car was older?)

 

[PawneeDew]

@ttjo — thank you SO MUCH for posting this. There was a lot to learn from the March 1 LE vehicle recording and I had not heard it nor seen a link for it.

Like in her other encounters with LE, she is mostly so detached — it’s just shocking and infuriating. MOO.

I really don't have an emoji choice for the video

 

[Inthedetails]

SS has taken Maddie to school, (at least once before) Maddie was embarrassed over S.S. dropping her off, according to JS. (S.S. car was older?)

So he says.

Just saying.

jmo

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

IA. There is some reason they are holding off. And I believe it’s bc SS will allege that JS allowed the abuse bc she knew about it, and that she played either a role in the murder or the coverup.

Since these two seemed to manipulate each other, there is a high possibility the defense thinks they have a chance at pointing the finger away from SS. JMO.

Yes @floridafreshsqueez …. I am thinking and wondering the same.

IANAL…. so that said, I think authorities are working the long game strategy here. It seems perhaps IMO that some lesser charges such as endangerment (or the FL equivalent) could already apply? Or so it would seem?

The approach might be to proceed with the SS case and see how that proceeds and plays out? And then determine if other charges develop? Statutes of limitations need to be considered for any lesser charges.

One other perspective might be all the input from SS parents CS and DS. And all the ‘statements’ they have given. It would seem investigators must have a lot to sort through in the case? And as @Inthedetails suggests in post # 716 above…. would be interesting to synch up JS calendar and work schedule and location with electronic signatures and timeline for all of the evidence SS created and where it was conducted. MOO