Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #5

[ttjo]

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I have been a true crime obsessive far too long to believe this is plausible.

lets say she was getting some help in a facility, could they question her then? fitness of the person to speak, or give her some time to grieve?

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

I agree and his reaction would have shut down her suspicions and have her apologizing for even thinking such a thing. MOO

My body is tensing up just thinking about it. You end up hating yourself for even thinking it.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Around 4:10 in response to a question about evidence that mom was involved:

"Everyone close to Madeline is considered a suspect until proven otherwise."

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

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I have been a true crime obsessive far too long to believe this is plausible.

I have also been a true crime obsessive since I could read a newspaper, yet I feel the precise wording makes a difference. An interview is a specific conversation that is recorded. If the Chief's 'an interview' does mean AFTER the arrest and not including any that occurred BEFORE, I feel that makes some sense. They could possibly have been talking daily with JS, but as official interviews go, maybe it was just the one.
She is apparently cooperating. If they wanted more interviews and she refused, would they say she was cooperating?
And, of course, there is the chance that she has had a complete mental break because I know if it was me, I would be in the biggest mental breakdown of my entire life.

 

[ttjo]

Around 4:10 in response to a question about evidence that mom was involved:

"Everyone close to Madeline is considered a suspect until proven otherwise."

I think she said "everyone is suspect " as opposed to everyone is "a" suspect. almost for
dramatic effect. Almost like " nothing is off the table' but it felt more dramatic than literal to me.

 

[MassGuy]

The Kissimmee PD said that she, and everyone else is and has been cooperating. Only SS has not been cooperating, according to their statement today.

That's a standard statement that I've seen in countless cases involving people who eventually do go on to be charged. The telling thing is that they said everyone, when in reality, there's only one person who could reasonably be in legal jeopardy here. We know they are looking at her, and we know the evidence shows she committed a crime by lying to law enforcement about when she last saw her daughter. There's no way they'd pull the trigger on those charges until they were sure that's all they had, or until they were ready to move on whatever else there is.

For the record, I doubt she helped kill her daughter, but I'd bet the farm on her helping after the fact.

 

[MassGuy]

I have also been a true crime obsessive since I could read a newspaper, yet I feel the precise wording makes a difference. An interview is a specific conversation that is recorded. If the Chief's 'an interview' does mean AFTER the arrest and not including any that occurred BEFORE, I feel that makes some sense. They could possibly have been talking daily with JS, but as official interviews go, maybe it was just the one.
She is apparently cooperating. If they wanted more interviews and she refused, would they say she was cooperating?
And, of course, there is the chance that she has had a complete mental break because I know if it was me, I would be in the biggest mental breakdown of my entire life.

Yes, they very well might say that she was cooperating, even if she had shut down. We saw that in the Kelsey Berreth Murder case. Her fiancé gave an initial statement, then stopped cooperating. We didn't know this until much later, but law enforcement said this at the time (after he had stopped).

"Patrick Frazee continues to cooperate with law enforcement in the missing person investigation of Kelsey Berreth. Mr. Frazee's cooperation includes interviews with law enforcement, voluntarily releasing his phone to be searched by law enforcement, buccal [swabs], and photographs.

Missing Mom': Investigators Return To Home Of Kelsey Berreth's Fiancé Patrick Frazee

Investigators returned to search the home of Kelsey Berreth's fiancé Patrick Frazee again on Monday.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[photoprose1122]

The Kissimmee PD said that she, and everyone else is and has been cooperating. Only SS has not been cooperating, according to their statement today.

We all heard that statement - but cooperating doesn’t necessarily mean innocent.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Around 7:30

"Mother HAS cooperated; she did give us an interview."

Not Mother IS cooperating.

But the next sentence:

"No one is not cooperating except for Sterns."

So IDK. Very confusing and inexact language.

 

[ttjo]

Around 4:10 in response to a question about evidence that mom was involved:

"Everyone close to Madeline is considered a suspect until proven otherwise."

ok I have 30 min left to delete my comment,(lol) it's so hard to hear if she says a or not, does it matter? Am I getting too hung up on one word? I still think shes saying we will leave no stone unturned.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I think she said "everyone is suspect " as opposed to everyone is "a" suspect. almost for
dramatic effect. Almost like " nothing is off the table' but it felt more dramatic than literal to me.

I listened again and I think you are correct. But the conclusion is the same: the mother is not off the table and is as suspect as everyone else.

 

[ttjo]

I listened again and I think you are correct. But the conclusion is the same: the mother is not off the table and is as suspect as everyone else.

100% agree with you

 

[IzzyBlanche]

ok I have 30 min left to delete my comment,(lol) it's so hard to hear if she says a or not, does it matter? Am I getting too hung up on one word? I still think shes saying we will leave no stone unturned.

Don't delete it! It is hard to hear.

 

[ttjo]

Don't delete it! It is hard to hear.

It is hard to hear and it almost sounds like there is a little glitch right when she says 'A" Who knows? but we get the general drift of what she's saying anyway.

 

[photographer4]

Perhaps Mum's will too!

If mum was on medication for mental health then I might expect a hair follicle to show that depending on what she was prescribed (eg: benzodiazepines may show up and may be used in the treatment of some mental health concerns). More info at the links below.

How Far Back Does Hair Drug Testing Go? | Lextox

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Benzodiazepines for Bipolar Disorder

WebMD explains the use of benzodiazepines, drugs that calm brain activity, for the treatment of bipolar disorder.

www.webmd.com

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

If mum was on medication for mental health then I might expect a hair follicle to show that depending on what she was prescribed (eg: benzodiazepines may show up and may be used in the treatment of some mental health concerns). More info at the links below.

How Far Back Does Hair Drug Testing Go? | Lextox

Find out how far back a hair follicle test detects drugs, with results covering up to 12 months. Lextox offers reliable testing for legal and clinical purposes

lextox.co.uk

https://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/bipolar-benzodiazepines[/

I should have been more clearer, I meant if she had been drugged with the same medication as MS, if of course, she was drugged.

 

[photographer4]

It doesn't matter how she saw it, rather, it matters when she saw it. The time just doesn't work. If she is no longer talking, I hope they asked her the question, "what did Madeline have for breakfast?"

Q: if Madeline did have breakfast, would that still be evident to the medical examiner considering the time between when she was thought to be dead in the car (8:19am Feb 26) and when she was found (late afternoon March 1)?

If the last thing she ate was at the party, is it possible that would still show up in her autopsy? I suppose again it would depend on time between last meal and when she died. Right?

 

[MassGuy]

Q: if Madeline did have breakfast, would that still be evident to the medical examiner considering the time between when she was thought to be dead in the car (8:19am Feb 26) and when she was found (late afternoon March 1)?

If the last thing she ate was at the party, is it possible that would still show up in her autopsy? I suppose again it would depend on time between last meal and when she died. Right?

I'm not sure, as it would depend on the level of decomposition. There's a chance at least though. Yeah, it would potentially tell them when she died based on what's in her stomach. Hopefully they can leverage SS against her in order to compel her cooperation, saying that if she does't tell the truth he might try and blame her.

Hopefully she does that on her own though.

 

[Pruddennce]

I listened again and I think you are correct. But the conclusion is the same: the mother is not off the table and is as suspect as everyone else.

yes, everyone close to madeline's is still in the circle. the Chief's use of the word 'sensitive' again as well as 'intricate' when asked by the media 'how close are we able to know what actually happened to Madeline Soto": she didnt want to provide a timeline when that info would be released, and of course no info was provided as to what they do know even preliminarily. IMO, info will not be released until someone is charged.

 

[Pruddennce]

ok I have 30 min left to delete my comment,(lol) it's so hard to hear if she says a or not, does it matter? Am I getting too hung up on one word? I still think shes saying we will leave no stone unturned.

no, you are not. Chief has a lovely accent, to me, maybe others do not hear an accent I thought she said "oscillated" when she said the crimes were "isolated" to the home.