FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #11

[my_tee_mouse]

This is the photo

The photo may have been released merely to show that the phone found looks like Michelle's phone.

 

[RabidBadger]

It's really not. I am just bothered by the fact that so many are so sure that DS murdered MP. I just don't understand how they can be so sure with so little facts at this point. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT SHE WAS MURDERED. And once again I will state that I am not a DS supporter in any way. I believe it's absolutely possible that he had something to do with her disappearance. But at this point I am not prepared to call him a murderer! How could I when I don't have any facts to say this?
I just hope they find her soon and get it all figured out for the sake of her poor family. My heart goes out to them.

I'm just curious as to why you think posters here are jumping the gun.

I was under the impression that there were a lot of facts in this case.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'd like to hear what you think happened to Michelle and who might be involved.

Now are you asking who I think MIGHT be involved or who I KNOW is involved? I absolutely agree that DS might be involved but I am nowhere ready to say he IS involved at this point. I don't have enough facts to say for sure at this point. I don't know what happened to MP but I would like to know all the possibilities and facts before I make judgement.

 

[cluciano63]

Do we know for a fact that it was LE who called the family to the search yesterday? Or was it just stated by the media, as I read, that the family was called to the search?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'm just curious as to why you think posters here are jumping the gun.

I was under the impression that there were a lot of facts in this case.

Give me one FACT that proves DS killed MP?

 

[RabidBadger]

I'm having trouble resolving the fact that we are apparently to accept what a member says as fact as long as they "witnessed it" and simply because they are a "member", and that discussion around this is being deleted.

I'm going to step away for a bit until there are some developments in this case because I'm failing to see how this is useful. Plus I have housework to do.

 

[TNGirl615]

Oops, didn't to reply to your post Storm!

 

[TheDuchess]

A little O/T but is there a disclaimer somewhere here that we can refer posters here to that states that we are allowed to post our suspicions or opinion that someone is guilty or innocent? Not trying to shut anyone up or anything, but it gets tiresome constatly having the "innocent until proven guilty" thing over and over. This is a message board and it gets old having the same argument about that over and over again. We have TOS we need to follow, but we are not in a court room. We all get the legal presumption of guilt. We are here to exchange information, thoughts, and opinions and shouldn't be wasting our time arguing about our right to state our opinion.

Anyone know of somewhere in the TOS we can simply refer someone to when the matter comes up? Not dissing anyone in particular, as many come on and aren't necessarily familiar with how things go here.

TIA

 

[Sparky]

Now are you asking who I think MIGHT be involved or who I KNOW is involved? I absolutely agree that DS might be involved but I am nowhere ready to say he IS involved at this point. I don't have enough facts to say for sure at this point. I don't know what happened to MP but I would like to know all the possibilities and facts before I make judgement.

No, I wanted to know what you honestly think.

No one has all the facts. Some of us have been here since day one. We have poured over every thing we can get our hands on and have hashed and rehashed. I don't believe LE is going to give us anymore then we've all ready gotten and I don't blame them for that.

I don't think I understand what you mean by the bold above. At what point do you think DSjr might be involved?

 

[captdj]

There are so many different variables of what/where/when so who knows? Anything is possible in my opinion. Could MP have been abducted at gunpoint and the perp was laying down in the back of the vehicle with a gun to her back when iron possibly saw her? Could that perp have been DS or an accomplice? Could they have had a female involved and that is who was driving the vehicle and not MP? There are so many possibilities.
What worries me a little is some accusatory sounding remarks against IRON, i.e. implying deceit. What if he did indeed see her and/or the vehicle as stated. This could be really important to the case. I hope he doesn't get discouraged and not follow up with the authorities further. It certainly needs to be brought to their attention and investigated.
As far as the phone pinging somewhere else at what was it? 4:26? Could she not have gotten back to that area where it pinged at 4:26 within that timeframe? Of course it's absolutely possible that the phone was not with the vehicle at that time.
Isn't the area where IRON says she exited the 408 somewhat close to where they are searching now? What if the vehicle exited and headed South?

I think Iron saw something ...just need to find out for sure what he saw and where/when he saw it...

My memory fools me almost daily LOL

I was careful in my above mentioned response to not include who might have be disposing of Michelle (if the hummer was third in line behind Iron) at the 417 toll plaza.

The 417 was his first post ( I think )and sometimes the first thing is the correct thing and then you think it to death...


OK if She was at waterford at 4:00 could she be in Belle Isle area for the 4:26text.... Im thinking she would have to hussle at this point to get there and No time for shopping then... so why go there to turn around immediately?

 

[Frankie Hellis]

It's really not. I am just bothered by the fact that so many are so sure that DS murdered MP. I just don't understand how they can be so sure with so little facts at this point. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT SHE WAS MURDERED. And once again I will state that I am not a DS supporter in any way. I believe it's absolutely possible that he had something to do with her disappearance. But at this point I am not prepared to call him a murderer! How could I when I don't have any facts to say this?
I just hope they find her soon and get it all figured out for the sake of her poor family. My heart goes out to them.

Since we do not know all that LE knows we are somwhat led by their actions. In light of the fact they searched his home and named him the prime suspect we cannot help but be tainted by the news of this.

 

[Angelonline]

Oops, I must be confused about the rules. So, if someone from the area posts about something having to do about the case first hand we aren't supposed to discuss it? Sorry-won't happen again!!! It gets sort of tricky in some cases, I guess.

I think we can dispute and discuss it as long as it is done in a respectful manner, without "attacking" another poster. but I am not a MOD either so I could be wrong.

 

[KKazoo87]

Wow. I find it very interesting that most people on here don't want to hear anything that doesn't point directly to DS. Very interesting. I am not saying he did not do it or may not have been involved, but I for one would like to hear all the facts, all the leads and all the possibilities. No wonder they have such a hard time finding a jury that doesn't have preconceived judgement on high profile cases. I would never ever accuse someone of something such as murder without having all the facts. The only hard facts I have heard is MP dropped the kids off, MP went missing, MP's vehicle and phone were found and there was a text to her bro saying 'Waterford" and a ping somewhere else and then the phone powered off at 8pm.

All else is not FACT but is speculation. I can speculate with everyone else but I would never accuse someone of something such as murder without FACT. Even a character with a sordid past like DS. Sorry.

Just asking for opinions. What have we heard that points away from him? Besides the possible sighting on the toll road I'm having trouble recalling anything else and would appreciate being refreshed on the subject.

It is also a fact that the People's Court episode featuring the two key people in this case aired shortly before whatever happened actually happened. :twocents:

 

[imamaze]

I'm having trouble resolving the fact that we are apparently to accept what a member says as fact as long as they "witnessed it" and simply because they are a "member", and that discussion around this is being deleted.

I'm going to step away for a bit until there are some developments in this case because I'm failing to see how this is useful. Plus I have housework to do.

I'll try to explain and clarify...

You can question what another member says, and disagree with it. If anyone has any other questions please feel free to pm me and I'll try to help. Lets keep this thread on Michelle and not this. Thanks.

Ima

 

[stilettos]

Wow. I find it very interesting that most people on here don't want to hear anything that doesn't point directly to DS. Very interesting. I am not saying he did not do it or may not have been involved, but I for one would like to hear all the facts, all the leads and all the possibilities. No wonder they have such a hard time finding a jury that doesn't have preconceived judgement on high profile cases. I would never ever accuse someone of something such as murder without having all the facts. The only hard facts I have heard is MP dropped the kids off, MP went missing, MP's vehicle and phone were found and there was a text to her bro saying 'Waterford" and a ping somewhere else and then the phone powered off at 8pm.

All else is not FACT but is speculation. I can speculate with everyone else but I would never accuse someone of something such as murder without FACT. Even a character with a sordid past like DS. Sorry.

It is a fact that LE named him the prime suspect. they had to have reason to do so..because they could be sued if not. It is a fact that a sitting judge had to sign off on the warrant for Sr's house...and had to have probable cause to do so. So they had to have something to base it on. It is also a fact that the phone was found on the route to Sr's house from Jr's. It is also a fact that this man has prior violent acts against others. There is more than enough reason to suspect that Jr was involved.

 

[evelyn24]

BBM

He was not a primary suspect on Thursday Nov 17 at 11:08 pm.

How do you know? Just because LE didn't tell the public yet doesn't mean they weren't privately discussing it.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't have an proof, but I am convinced that Josh Powell killed Susan Powell. That is my opinion. I am also convinced that Drew Peterson killed Stacey Peterson. I feel the same way about DS Jr. and will feel that way, unless and until someone else is proven to have harmed Michelle. My opinion only, based on historical data of other cases as well as the known make-up of this "man" re: his past actions. JMO

 

[maedlamsmom]

Has it been clarified, in MSM reports or by the family, if DS's account of the drop off included MP entering his home? Did she bring the children in herself or did he meet her outside? I tried to find the master question list in this thread, to see if this has been answered, but couldn't. Can anyone help me with this? I know that the family reported that DS told them that they chatted for ten minutes during the drop off, but did he specify where this convo took place?

Maybe during the presser with MN?? I can't view that video for some reason, can someone let me know? Thanks!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

No, I wanted to know what you honestly think.

No one has all the facts. Some of us have been here since day one. We have poured over every thing we can get our hands on and have hashed and rehashed. I don't believe LE is going to give us anymore then we've all ready gotten and I don't blame them for that.

I don't think I understand what you mean by the bold above. At what point do you think DSjr might be involved?

Honestly at this point I don't have enough information to make that judgement call. That is JMHO. I am leaving all possibilties open.

 

[Sparky]

How do you know? Just because LE didn't tell the public yet doesn't mean they weren't privately discussing it.

Because Michelle went missing on Nov 17. Why would LE be discussing it on the 17th, when the family just informed LE she was missing?