FL FL - Peggy Houser, 18, Tampa, 14 June 1981

[webrocket]

Wow! A lot of other cases have been ruled out by dentals. Makes you wonder how many rule-outs are incorrect.

make you wonder the qualification of the person doing a dental comparison. for heaven's sake we could do rule outs. making an actual match would require genuine expertise. I can understand a ruling that it is inconclusive but to rule out these two on dentals?

for example, if a MP has one filling only and that one tooth is missing on the UID that is not a rule out. that would be inconclusive.

if the MP had no fillings and the UID had two fillings that is not necessarily a rule out if there is a significant gap in time between the person's disappearance and the death of the UID.

on the contrary if the MP has had all wisdom teeth extracted and the UID has one wisdom tooth left that is a rule out.

 

[chaddylex]

make you wonder the qualification of the person doing a dental comparison. for heaven's sake we could do rule outs. making an actual match would require genuine expertise. I can understand a ruling that it is inconclusive but to rule out these two on dentals?

for example, if a MP has one filling only and that one tooth is missing on the UID that is not a rule out. that would be inconclusive.

if the MP had no fillings and the UID had two fillings that is not necessarily a rule out if there is a significant gap in time between the person's disappearance and the death of the UID.

on the contrary if the MP has had all wisdom teeth extracted and the UID has one wisdom tooth left that is a rule out.

Thank goodness for DNA since they told me a few years ago that the UID wasn't Peggy because of Dentals... geez,... and here we are amateur sleuths and make positive id's .... these people get paid!!!!

 

[Dionysia]

I'm so glad Peggy Sue was finally identified!

Kudos to whomever in FL LE decided to take another look and run the DNA, even if those kudos go to a computer program (CODIS).

 

[Ms Suzanne]

They should use DNA to rule out people.Also there was a serial Killer in the Tampa area I feel very strongly was killing way beore 1984.Bobby Joe Long.

Bobbie Joe Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[websurfer]

Get a load of this!!!!

According to NamUs this decedent has been identified as Peggy Sue Houser !!!!

https://identifyus.org/cases/216

She was finally ID'd by nucDNA and mtDNA after they had already ruled her out on dentals !!!

:great:Yay!
hope more are identified good work!:seeya:

 

[CarlK90245]

A few lines on Peggy in a few news articles.

http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/miami/30-year-old-missing-case-now-solved

http://www.whiotv.com/news/news/local/remains-missing-piqua-teen-found-florida/nFftD/

ETA: Here's a more detailed article:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news...ide-victim-1285459.html?cxtype=rss_local-news

 

[CarlK90245]

Here's the content of Peggy's Charley Page, put here for when her casefile goes offline:

Peggy Sue Houser

Houser, circa 1981

Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: June 14, 1981 from Tampa, Florida
Classification: Endangered Missing
Date Of Birth: September 16, 1962
Age: 18 years old
Height and Weight: 5'4 - 5'5, 102 - 115 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Brown hair, hazel eyes. Houser has a tattoo of a pink pig on her breast. She has a gap between her upper front teeth. Four of Houser's permanent upper teeth and two lower permanent teeth never erupted. Her right wrist was broken during her childhood. Houser also chipped a bone in her left elbow in the years preceding her 1981 disappearance.
Medical Conditions: Houser has a history of drug and alcohol abuse.

Details of Disappearance

Houser was last seen at The B-52, a bar near the McDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida on June 14, 1981. She apparently had an argument with friends and walked into the bar's parking lot in an attempt to solicit a ride. Houser disappeared shortly afterwards. She was not reported missing by her family for four days because she had a history of leaving without warning. She always kept in touch with her family wherever she was, however.

Houser called her mother a few weeks later from the Sohio gas station on North County Road 25A in what is now Piqua, Ohio. She asked if she could come home and her mother told her she could. Witnesses at the station identified Houser from a photograph and stated that she was accompanied by an unidentified male riding a motorcycle with Michigan license plates. The man apparently took the phone out of Houser's hand while she was speaking to her mother and disconnected the call. Houser and the man then disappeared on his motorcycle; nobody saw which direction they went. There has been no further contact from Houser since that time and her whereabouts are unknown.

Piqua, Ohio authorities are handling Houser's case.

 

[JeannieC]

Good Work Carl! It is so great to know that another family can now bury their family member and no longer wonder if she will ever be found.

Rest in Peace Peggy Sue.

 

[ebbie]

Its kind of amusing but sad at the same time to see Peggy still listed in her own exclusions list!

https://identifyus.org/cases/216

 

[Wanting2Help]

This is a really great article (4 pages). Sad. What her poor mother must have gone through!

http://www.theledger.com/article/20111221/NEWS/111229899/1374?p=1&tc=pg

 

[CarlK90245]

You really have to think it's amateur hour at the ME office when they rule out a 19-year old girl based on dental records from when she was 12.

 

[Wanting2Help]

Websleuths is mentioned briefly in this article...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/02/27/golden_state_killer_can_a_group_of_amateur_internet_detectives_catch_a_long.html?fb_ref=sm_fb_share_blogpost

The Doe Network (“There is no time limit to solving a mystery&#8221, a website devoted to identifying missing persons and investigating cold cases, or another site called websleuths.com. While their methods may be unorthodox, they occasionally get results—the Doe Network claims that its members have solved or helped solve more than 66 cases, most recently helping to identify the remains of Peggy Sue Houser, who went missing in 1981.

 

[CarlK90245]

It's interesting that DoeNet is claiming credit for this match.

From what I understood, Erin Kimmerle, forensic anthropologist and assistant professor at the University of South Florida, solved this with the help of one of her colleagues.

 

[PayrollNerd]

This was solved with CODIS so that means someone in her family was in CODIS for comparison, right? I wonder if any of the perp's DNA was found and uploaded to CODIS for future comparison.