FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #31

[sadnpod]

Yes a constuction company maybe for the railroad? I could not make out the name..grrr....A street named Railroad Avenue runs on the side of Somers school and swings around-westbound. Railroad Ave is all fenced in with old broken down trains etc...Probably dumpsters there to but couldn't see any...

Ive been around the back of somers school on that dirt rd, and over the tracks to kingsley, Its creepy creepy back there, abandoned creepy houses with windows bashed out. There is some kind of construction co, right there at the tracks, behind the stationary caboose that is there. Both of these are fenced in seperately. There werent any dumpsters that I could see and it was fenced and locked. I imagine it would be at night and on wkends too.

 

[sadnpod]

WLK'S registered addy is two right turns to OPJH dumpster.

 

[sadnpod]

Sad, I was the equivalent of you in with the Tracy Ocasio case here in Ocoee/Orlando. Equivalent meaning day in and day out I went out and took pictures, video, called people connected to the case, helped remote viewers.. you name it. I wanted nothing more than to have that girl found and didn't mind sacrificing my time to do so since i was so local to that case.
I became so frustrated however when IMO LE wasn't following up on things presented to them by her family (nothing that had to do anything with me or WS). My eyebrow went up and i realized that it was possible that her case would never be solved because someone didn't *want* it solved.. I will leave it at that. So I unfortunatly felt that the time i sacrificed away from my children and family was starting to be more effort than LE was putting into that case and it P'd me off.
I still think of Tracy all the time and I feel bad sometimes that i'm still not out every weekend taking pictures of coordinates a remote viewer sends me or taking video of shady areas near some storage units (you catch my drift).
I commend you on your efforts here, Sad, because you, and others, have put so much into helping find Somer's murderer.
Let's try and keep this case alive and darnit if i were closer to OP i'd do the pictures/videos with ya. I'm an expert at the "drive-by" "no-i'm-not-taking-a-picture-of-you or your house" shot (when yes I really am)..
The reason i just wrote this long winded post was b/c Sad, I noticed you just said your videos sucked. I'm sure you were just referring to some quality of some of the shots, etc.. but the fact that they exist makes it impossible for them to suck. the fact that you spent your personal time taking the photos, the videos, retracing the steps, etc etc - nothing you did could suck.
I know others out there have also retraced steps and taken photos and done similar (Cam, i believe?) - i don't want to take away credit from others out there.
I know first hand the amount of time it takes away from your loved ones, physically and mentally to emerse yourselves as you have. Some of you are related, some not. But Thank you for your efforts in the pictures, videos, phone calls, drive bys, dreams, meditations, etc etc.
who knows - maybe someone here WILL solve the murder.. (maybe they already have and don't know it yet).
I will stop talking now.
coffee must've kicked in.
:coffee:

BBM
My coffee hasnt kicked in.. LOL... Its never entered my mind that LE would not want this solved.. OMG... I just cant go there... why wouldnt they? I also want to add that I have not taken any time away from my family or really gone out of my way for pics and stuff... Although, you are right, it does take alot out of me and immerses me in this sorrow over and over. But I want to stay immersed. I dont want to forget. I dont want anyone to forget. I have alot of free time, cause I do need a job.. atm... can someone sleuth me out one? Preferably on wed from 2-4 (1000 a week pay) and I need that day and times to be flexible... anyone?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I don't think Somer's mother did anything at all.She probably said Somer wasn't in trouble because she ran off and NO it's NOT ok to throw her in the garbage.

Thank you Ms Suzanne. I feel the same way.

I don't think DT did anything or knows who did it either.

And, I for one can not stand how people pick apart everything a mother says right after her child comes up missing or right after she finds out her child has been found in a big pile of garbage.

How can anyone say what she said or how she said it was "wrong"????
How can anyone say what they would have said or how they would have said it.

Sorry for the rant. It just drives me nuts how the families are sometimes disected in these cases. IMO the families of victims are victims as well until proven otherwise. KWIM.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Go back and look at everything. Why would she say that she's not in trouble? Let's say someone took her. That was the first thought even DT had. Why would she be in trouble with her??? Her reasoning is off. Perhaps she was on medication to get her through it but most things DT says are from left field. Now when Somer was killed she focused on the garbage aspect not on the huge loss.
I wonder if she even knows how her daughter was killed. If LE didn't tell her nor ST about it or anyone, it's for a reason. The killer is among them. DT even said LE didn't want to disclose the cause of death other than homicide. Nobody saw the body. How strange unless DT is very very close to the suspect.

I just said why.Look at alot of missing persons cases.Most parent's will say you are not in trouble.Please come home.I'll say again.NO it's NOT ok to throw Somer in the trash.I hope the guy get's the death penalty.Inmates in Jail don't like child killers.I don't feel sorry for the person who killed her pretty little girl and threw her in the trash.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Thank you Ms Suzanne. I feel the same way.

I don't think DT did anything or knows who did it either.

And, I for one can not stand how people pick apart everything a mother says right after her child comes up missing or right after she finds out her child has been found in a big pile of garbage.

How can anyone say what she said or how she said it was "wrong"????
How can anyone say what they would have said or how they would have said it.

Sorry for the rant. It just drives me nuts how the families are sometimes disected in these cases. IMO the families of victims are victims as well until proved otherwise. KWIM.

VERY well said.I agree.

 

[Dee10]

Hi everybody just getting caught up... I don't believe the rumor about running; splashy vacation wouldn't surprise me in the least (for the kids of course). IF they were going to run, they wouldn't be dumb enough to tell anyone would they? I think they would just tell the kids a vacation until the final destination, but still I just don't see it happening. All the police would have to do is watch the bank account. If DT knows who did it or did do it, I believe she is of the personality make-up that she would believe she/they would not be caught. If it was DT, can't see b/f covering for her in something this serious...unless he would stay till the money ran out type thing. Unfortunately, I am still on that fence...swaying or twirling maybe the better word; I hate that! I get dizzy fast in this case, I really thought it would be solved by now.

 

[sadnpod]

Thank you Ms Suzanne. I feel the same way.

I don't think DT did anything or knows who did it either.

And, I for one can not stand how people pick apart everything a mother says right after her child comes up missing or right after she finds out her child has been found in a big pile of garbage.

How can anyone say what she said or how she said it was "wrong"????
How can anyone say what they would have said or how they would have said it.

Sorry for the rant. It just drives me nuts how the families are sometimes disected in these cases. IMO the families of victims are victims as well until proved otherwise. KWIM.

I dont trust any of these media reports. Answers are taken out of context and then put together for the "news". I am sure this is the case every time. I think she said somer wasnt in trouble because she had been in trouble before for not coming straight home. It was just a plea... come home.. you are not in trouble.. As far as her statement that its not ok to throw her in the garbage... there was alot removed from that statement too, maybe that could not be aired because of wording... I cant blame her.. it would be very hard for me not to use foul language at that time...

I dont think she did this. I dont think she knows who did this. I dont see her as fragile or easily dominated. I think if she knew who did this, she would possibly be in jail for murder herself...

 

[sadnpod]

I cant get away from the dumpster behind hooters.. its like a totally drive through dumpster... secluded and low enough that you wouldnt have to heave the body into it. and an easy and quick get away.. bars are open there til at least 2am. There is also an apt complex right next to the parking lot..oops. not two rights, two lefts, but no traffic to cross or lights to go thru...

 

[doggies]

This is totally apropos of nothing...just interesting and due to a few of the comments above: I was telling my daughter Thursday night about this case. She was somewhat familiar with it, but didn't know many details. She wanted to know how LE found Somer, and when I told her, she said, "Mom. It's someone in law enforcement. I don't mean a cop, or sheriff's office, but it's someone who is either a first responder or a jailer. You just watch. When they find out, or IF they find out who it was, it will be someone in the LE system. Just think about it. It's somebody in a uniform."
THEN I told her about Infinity's vision, and the car involved w/the little girl 10 days prior to Somer's missing.
She crossed her arms over her chest and said, "I'm telling you, and you'll believe me when you find out I'm right."
So. So much for that, and no, she's no psychic either-she's a volunteer firefighter, first responder, and oversees trustees on city jobs, so not a neophyte to LE.

 

[Dee10]

This is totally apropos of nothing...just interesting and due to a few of the comments above: I was telling my daughter Thursday night about this case. She was somewhat familiar with it, but didn't know many details. She wanted to know how LE found Somer, and when I told her, she said, "Mom. It's someone in law enforcement. I don't mean a cop, or sheriff's office, but it's someone who is either a first responder or a jailer. You just watch. When they find out, or IF they find out who it was, it will be someone in the LE system. Just think about it. It's somebody in a uniform."
THEN I told her about Infinity's vision, and the car involved w/the little girl 10 days prior to Somer's missing.
She crossed her arms over her chest and said, "I'm telling you, and you'll believe me when you find out I'm right."
So. So much for that, and no, she's no psychic either-she's a volunteer firefighter, first responder, and oversees trustees on city jobs, so not a neophyte to LE.

...or maybe a certain guy from the lab that was arrested awhile ago? I just remembered him.

 

[sadnpod]

...or maybe a certain guy from the lab that was arrested awhile ago? I just remembered him.

Who is this? I dont remember him... help? TIA

 

[pinamia]

This is totally apropos of nothing...just interesting and due to a few of the comments above: I was telling my daughter Thursday night about this case. She was somewhat familiar with it, but didn't know many details. She wanted to know how LE found Somer, and when I told her, she said, "Mom. It's someone in law enforcement. I don't mean a cop, or sheriff's office, but it's someone who is either a first responder or a jailer. You just watch. When they find out, or IF they find out who it was, it will be someone in the LE system. Just think about it. It's somebody in a uniform."
THEN I told her about Infinity's vision, and the car involved w/the little girl 10 days prior to Somer's missing.
She crossed her arms over her chest and said, "I'm telling you, and you'll believe me when you find out I'm right."
So. So much for that, and no, she's no psychic either-she's a volunteer firefighter, first responder, and oversees trustees on city jobs, so not a neophyte to LE.

We looked into that angle very early. There was RC who I found had worked on patrol the day before but not that day. He lived on the block Infinity said was involved but was in his early 30's and not 20's.

Also, the LE with the scratch on him arm which we weren't sure of his name.

DNA or tip are the only things that can catch this killer. I'm hoping he makes a mistake and soon.

 

[pinamia]

I cant get away from the dumpster behind hooters.. its like a totally drive through dumpster... secluded and low enough that you wouldnt have to heave the body into it. and an easy and quick get away.. bars are open there til at least 2am. There is also an apt complex right next to the parking lot..oops. not two rights, two lefts, but no traffic to cross or lights to go thru...

Is it near Cedar Bends Apartment complex on Wells? That's where the 2 year old was found alive in a dumpster in July.

 

[pinamia]

Thank you Ms Suzanne. I feel the same way.

I don't think DT did anything or knows who did it either.

And, I for one can not stand how people pick apart everything a mother says right after her child comes up missing or right after she finds out her child has been found in a big pile of garbage.

How can anyone say what she said or how she said it was "wrong"????
How can anyone say what they would have said or how they would have said it.

Sorry for the rant. It just drives me nuts how the families are sometimes disected in these cases. IMO the families of victims are victims as well until proved otherwise. KWIM.

Because she hasn't been ruled out.

 

[sadnpod]

Im trying to download videos of Briarwood now.....

 

[Dee10]

Who is this? I dont remember him... help? TIA

IIRC there was a guy who worked in a lab, who was arrested guessing 3 weeks or a month after Somer was found. There was a child who was spending the night at this house, there was some kind of inappropriate behavior & she went to a neighbors house to phone LE. There was a newspaper article about the arrest I believe. I can't remember if it was in OP or how close. We discussed it on one of the threads. I have to do a few things (drats), but will see if I can find the thread & info. later.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Because she hasn't been ruled out.

Nobody has been ruled out. But, DT seems to be the one everybody loves to pick apart.

 

[sadnpod]

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=30.184465,-81.727287&z=17&t=h&hl=en
does this work? IDK.. but im tryin it.

If it works, this is hooters parking... see the big white bldg in back? the dumpster is in the very back between this building and the other... see the drive thru loop? Those are the apts back behind it. Google to me makes everything seem farther away than it is...Im trying to find name of apts...

 

[pinamia]

Nobody has been ruled out. But, DT seems to be the one everybody loves to pick apart.

The sheriff did rule himself out though so it isn't nobody. If and when she's ruled out doesn't mean she doesn't know who did it. I never said she did it. She knows much more than she's saying. Much more.