FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #34

[Dee10]

As well as your thinking, unfortunatly this kind of clothing and attire is so pronounced in the media, such as music videos of pop stars that dress provocitivly and so on. Miley Cyrus dancing on a strip pole on at awards show is one example, admired by little girls everywhere as Hanna Montanna!there are stores in the shopping malls just for little girls that seem to sell grown up clothing in little girls sizes. Kind of off topic here but it is really disgusting that they make costumes like that in childrens sizes. I would hope that if a grown man is watching *advertiser censored* that he would do this in complete privacy without a chance of a child seeing it! \although i recall babysitting for a lady when i was 12, went to put a movie in the VCR, and it was a *advertiser censored*! i watched it for about a minute then i think i threw up! As far as CPC being critisized for watching *advertiser censored*, I think you would find the majority of men enjoy it, even if they wont admit it, might be sad but it's true. Now him bragging about it on MS i will agree is disturbing.

Dar I think I understand were you are coming from? When a child is 7 years old, the parent dresses or has control (providing costumes) wouldn't THEY?

 

[RainyDaze]

Rainy Daze: No she was never married to the father of the child she lost/gave up custody of.

wasn't sure, that's why i had the question mark there.

 

[petra]

Now way back when, did I read on the (what was the name of that bar again?), website that they featured go-go dancers. I remembered thinking, "Oh, so that's where the idea probably came from, her Mom".
I haven't heard of go-go dancers since I was a little kid and we watched "Hullabaloo!".

I did read a revamp of that costume later being described as a "genie" costume.
A dubious step up.

I think some of the kids shows have brought this dancing back (Highschool Musical style)--white boots and all!!!! Hullabaloo--LOL--dancing in the cage!!!:crazy:

 

[dar107]

The only person victimized was Somer. DT was and is not a victim.

Yes Somer is the victim of this horrible crime. I realize DT is still alive and did not have to go through the pain and suffering that she did, what i mean is in a sense, anyone who has a child taken from them, this person who is responsible for it, has affected the lives of many others through their actions. DT, ST, their children and familes all have to live with the pain of this for the rest of their lives, which IMO makes them secondary, (so to speak) victims, unless they are somehow responsible for the crime. Maybe i just don't know how to phrase it for you, sorry.

 

[sorrell skye]

Since the topic of childcare expenses has been introduced, I will offer a comment about it.

According to the news article, a reduced or free rate was being arranged by the elementary school.

IME (there's that acronym again lol!) when there is a social services investigation with recommendations for childcare to ensure the safety of the children involved, even if there is a waiting list for childcare services due to limited funding, the subjects of the investigation are bumped to the front of the queue & are given priority.

Child social services has the ability to pull strings for those children they deem "at risk".

I have no desire to engage in a childcare discussion. I simply wanted to bring information to the table that others might not be aware of.

 

[Dee10]

T.J hart?I didn't know he did one.what did he say?I lost everything on my computer.It died.I tried to build everything back up again.I lost everything again today.So I'm just not saving anything any more for awhile.It's too irritating.But with with LE in the last article.I feel they are waiting on DNA evidence to come back to point to someone.I pray it does.They said they are working with Somers mother keeping her updated the whole way.That doesn't seem like they think she is a suspect to me.They say it's streamlined and focused.They say they won't talk so they do not jepordise the investigation.They mention they can get the PERSON(I took that as one suspect to them.But who knows.I felt they had something and was waiting on something.I noticed they did not if I read it right put a police # to contact.

This is the latest update from today, since you are interested on the latest from LE. I copied over my previous post.

here was a segment on the Somer T. case today on Blog Talk Radio with Simon Barrett. TJ Hart (a radio producer(?) in Florida) was on as usual & talked about a brief interview/conversation he had with Mary Justino. There was also a brief discussion about DCF.

Those of you who follow the Haleigh Cummings case, know all about this weekly radio show with panelists. I listen to it every Sunday (doing paper work) or catch the re-run. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett It is a difficult site initially (at least for me when I started to tuning into it). If you don't want to hear about other cases & just want to go to the portion about Somer T. do this:

Beside the picture of Simon is a box with info. titled "Blog Talk Radio"
At the bottom of the box you'll see "Open in your default player or new window"
Click this.
After that your windows player comes up & hit download IRCC. This allows you to fast forward & rewind. Somer's part is about 1 hour into the program. __________________

 

[petra]

Hey Kermie!!

You know I do!! Since the posse was kind enough to let us know that there might be a kernel or two in their response to the Jax.com story for those of us who suspect DT. I revised my scenario accordingly.

I do believe Ms T. did get a call from the school that day. I believe she thought DFS might be coming by the house later. So as soon as she hung up the phone she was Texting SP to get him to come right over there to um, wait for the kids.

Sorry Posse, I didn't "buy" the shopping trip!!

Your friend,
Beaker

BBM--LOL!!!! gotta love it!

If the school called Ms T on that Monday, there must be records.
Why would she be worried about DFS?
This to me seems like a contridiction in the whole theory.
That is one big piece I don't understand.

 

[dar107]

Dar I think I understand were you are coming from? When a child is 7 years old, the parent dresses or has control (providing costumes) wouldn't THEY?

Yes i agree that it is a bad choice of costume for a 7 yr old,

 

[dar107]

I have not seen anything about the school making a call to DT that day. Is there a link for this, or is it just another rumor or assumption?

 

[Dee10]

Yes i agree that it is a bad choice of costume for a 7 yr old,

Yes, good point & ITA...sigh & want to cry!

 

[Ms Suzanne]

This is the latest update from today, since you are interested on the latest from LE. I copied over my previous post.

here was a segment on the Somer T. case today on Blog Talk Radio with Simon Barrett. TJ Hart (a radio producer(?) in Florida) was on as usual & talked about a brief interview/conversation he had with Mary Justino. There was also a brief discussion about DCF.

Those of you who follow the Haleigh Cummings case, know all about this weekly radio show with panelists. I listen to it every Sunday (doing paper work) or catch the re-run. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett It is a difficult site initially (at least for me when I started to tuning into it). If you don't want to hear about other cases & just want to go to the portion about Somer T. do this:

Beside the picture of Simon is a box with info. titled "Blog Talk Radio"
At the bottom of the box you'll see "Open in your default player or new window"
Click this.
After that your windows player comes up & hit download IRCC. This allows you to fast forward & rewind. Somer's part is about 1 hour into the program. __________________

Thank you.I'm very afraid to go to links right now.I need to make sure my virus scan is running good tommorrow.

 

[petra]

BUT, did you ask them to stay at your house all afternoon, wait for your kids and then wait for you to get off work?? IF they had never done so in the past. Just to go on a shopping trip? Just the guy not the wife?

I guess I didn't phrase this properly and really shouldn't have written it. Because what we do/did in our household is not related to Somer's murder at all. :blushing:

So I am going back to delete post.

I just don't see anything wrong with the possibility of this happening.
And we really don't know if any or part of it really happenedor was planned.
Thanks.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I have not seen anything about the school making a call to DT that day. Is there a link for this, or is it just another rumor or assumption?

Apparantly if it happened nothing became of it because she still has her children.

 

[houndstooth]

BBM--LOL!!!! gotta love it!

If the school called Ms T on that Monday, there must be records.
Why would she be worried about DFS?
This to me seems like a contridiction in the whole theory.
That is one big piece I don't understand.

I have not seen anything about the school making a call to DT that day. Is there a link for this, or is it just another rumor or assumption?

Well. The school was visited by LE by the detectives as told by several articles. I think they were following up on a couple things. Yes. I am also using conjecture here because there had to be a reason for DT to have SP come to the house that particular day ( not shopping ). It was known and reported that Somer was in a fight at school that day. It was such a big deal to her brother and sister that her sister chastised her about it, she hit her brother with the book carrier and took off. As Somer was said to "catch up" to them, I thought she may have been asked to stay after school that day. It did not seem too far a stretch considering her history, that DT would have been informed by a school councelor.

As to why worry about DFS. She did not want to be scrutinized by a State agency.(AGAIN) She probably was not prepared for a pop visit. It may have resulted in a substantial daycare bill being imposed because she was not destitute, but it would definitely curtail her spending habits. There may have also been other fines assessed or something else depending on the findings this time around.

 

[petra]

Well. The school was visited by LE by the detectives as told by several articles. I think they were following up on a couple things. Yes. I am also using conjecture here because there had to be a reason for DT to have SP come to the house that particular day ( not shopping ). It was known and reported that Somer was in a fight at school that day. It was such a big deal to her brother and sister that her sister chastised her about it, she hit her brother with the book carrier and took off. As Somer was said to "catch up" to them, I thought she may have been asked to stay after school that day. It did not seem too far a stretch considering her history, that DT would have been informed by a school councelor.

Thanks, yes I am following this part.
So then DFS would have to investigate the problem,if there is one.
What is the worse case scenario?? I am not familiar with DCF ---
Is it that DFS can take children out of a home for proven allegations of children misbehaving in school?
TIA

 

[petra]

Well. The school was visited by LE by the
*************SNIPPED BM
As to why worry about DFS. She did not want to be scrutinized by a State agency. She probably was not prepared for a pop visit. It may have resulted in a substantial daycare bill being imposed because she was not destitute, but it would definitely curtail her spending habits. There may have also been other fines assessed or something else depending on the findings this time around.

Okay--so DFS can impose finds on a parent or force them to put children in a daycare program.??? I didn't know that. Sounds worrisome.
Thanks for the explaination.

 

[houndstooth]

Thanks, yes I am following this part.
So then DFS would have to investigate the problem,if there is one.
What is the worse case scenario?? I am not familiar with DCF ---
Is it that DFS can take children out of a home for proven allegations of children misbehaving in school?
TIA

I think she was informed of this most likely by the same person who dialed the hotline and instigated the last investigation. I think DT was WORRIED this lady was going to dial the hotline. I doubt the lady did so. I am saying what I think DT's actions were. Not what the councelors were.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Okay--so DFS can impose finds on a parent or force them to put children in a daycare program.??? I didn't know that. Sounds worrisome.
Thanks for the explaination.

It was agreed with them she didn't have to.

 

[houndstooth]

Okay--so DFS can impose finds on a parent or force them to put children in a daycare program.??? I didn't know that. Sounds worrisome.
Thanks for the explaination.

NO ma'am. But, if there had been another investigation that came out of this, in DT's mind, whatever the investigation might have uncovered other things that the agency would have been compelled to inform LE. They might have imposed fines and other trouble might have ensued regarding it. Not to mention again, a pending custody settlement.

I am talking the state of mind of DT. What she may have feared, founded or unfounded. Like the need to make 4:20 calls to a B/F. Clean up our act??
Let's get a sitter on the scene? Her actions speak to being proactive to head off some sort of trouble that day.

 

[houndstooth]

It was agreed with them she didn't have to.

Do you imagine because she was investigated once that it COULD not happen again with a different outcome. I think it would work against her had that been the case just because she had been previously investigated, don't you?