FL - West Palm Beach - Trump Assassination Attempt

[Curiousobserver]

Mar A Lago is much more secure.

Agree, that site is easier to secure- but the same basic measures should have applied at this site. It doesn't take dozens of agents to do it, it only takes 1-2 agents or any random security person in a golf cart on each side.

 

[OddOneOut]

It seems like SS could at least have restricted parking of non-residents in the area. This guy was parked nearby for about 12 hours and no one thought to even run the plates on an unknown vehicle. If they had, it would have come back as plates not matching the vehicle and plates from a stolen vehicle.

I doubt RR stole the gun or the vehicle the plates came from. He may have bought both from the same person which means he has knowledge of other criminals and/or criminal activity.

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1835730644212793367

 

[legalmomma]

Suspect at Trump International Golf Course Charged with Firearms Offenses

Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, of Hawaii, has been charged by a criminal complaint in the Southern District of Florida with firearms charges related to an incident at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach on Sept. 15.

www.justice.gov

Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, of Hawaii, has been charged by a criminal complaint in the Southern District of Florida with firearms charges related to an incident at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach on Sept. 15.
Routh was charged with possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and possession and receipt of a firearm with an obliterated serial number and made his initial appearance today before Magistrate Judge Ryon M. McCabe in the federal courthouse in West Palm Beach. A detention hearing has been scheduled for Sept. 23. The investigation remains ongoing.
According to allegations in the criminal complaint, a Secret Service agent walking the golf course perimeter saw what appeared to be a rifle poking out of the tree line. After the agent fired a service weapon in the direction of the rifle, a witness saw a man later identified as Routh fleeing the area of the tree line. Routh was later apprehended by officers from the Martin County Sheriff’s Office, in coordination with the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office.
The complaint alleges that in the area of the tree line from which Routh fled, agents found a digital camera, a backpack, a loaded SKS-style rifle with a scope and a black plastic bag containing food. The serial number on the rifle was obliterated.
According to the complaint, Routh was convicted of felonies in North Carolina in December 2002 and March 2010.
The FBI is leading the ongoing investigation. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the U.S. Secret Service are providing assistance.
The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida and the Counterterrorism Section of the Justice Department’s National Security Division are prosecuting the case.
A criminal complaint is merely an allegation. All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
Updated September 16, 2024

Complaint: https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1368091/dl

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[sds71]

Palm Beach County law enforcement source tells me PB added 30 deputies to Trump’s security detail

@JSweetLI

Sorry. Since yesterday *

https://twitter.com/x/status/1835732048834887921

 

[SMK777]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1835730644212793367

Good, they will be able to answer regarding further indictments.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Somewhat incongruously, his WhatsApp profile read: “Each one of us must do our part daily in the smallest steps help support human rights, freedom and democracy; we each must help the chinese.”

Routh’s unstable political views seem to have been mirrored by a turbulent personal past.

Shortly after the Russian invasion in 2022 he travelled to Ukraine to apply for its “international brigade” of foreign fighters, telling a Guardian journalist at the time that he expected to be rejected because he lacked military experience – as indeed it seems he was. Instead, he announced he planned to erect national flags from around the world in central Kyiv, organise a human chain around them and declare, “Putin, here I am”, calculating that if Russia bombed this international protest it would provoke global action.

He fled the scene and drove to his roofing business, according to local media reports, where he barricaded himself inside for three hours. He was subsequently charged with possessing a fully automatic machine gun – referred to in court documents as a “weapon of mass destruction” – possessing a concealed weapon, driving without a valid driver’s license and resisting, delaying and obstructing law enforcement.

Tracy Fulk, the charging officer, told Wired that Routh was known to police at the time of his arrest and added that she thought he would be “either dead or in prison by now”. She added: “I had no clue that he had moved on and was continuing his escapades.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/16/ryan-wesley-routh-trump-golf-shooting.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1835717426698137628

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The man suspected in a potential assassination attempt against Donald Trumpappears to have been in the area around the former president’s golf course for 12 hours before a Secret Service agent spotted his rifle and opened fire, according to a federal criminal complaint unsealed in Florida on Monday.

Routh fled the scene and left behind his phone, his loaded SKS-style rifle with a scope and some food, according to the complaint.

Law enforcement officials found Routh’s cellphone number in one of his Facebook posts and were able to quickly track his phone data, which suggested he could have been hiding in the bushes from around 2 a.m. until about 1:30 p.m., when the Secret Service saw him, the complaint said.

Routh appeared before a judge in federal court in Florida on Monday morning as officials charged him with two crimes: possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number.

The obliterated serial number makes it harder for authorities to track the weapon and could mean a slower process to determine how Routh obtained it. The FBI agent who wrote the affidavit supporting the criminal complaint said the type of weapon Routh had is not manufactured in Florida, and the agent suspects it was obtained from another state or abroad.

Routh is expected to enter his plea of guilty or not guilty at his arraignment Sept. 30

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www.washingtonpost.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

One of the two federal gun laws Ryan Wesley Routh has been charged with has come under judicial scrutiny in recent years as courts have reexamined the nation’s gun laws in light of a 2022 landmark Supreme Court decision expanding Second Amendment rights.

Routh, the suspect of an apparent assassination attempt on Donald Trump on Sunday, was charged Monday with possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number and possession of a firearm while a convicted felon.

The constitutionality of the federal law underpinning the second charge has been examined by federal courts around the country in recent years after some people convicted under it or subject to its prohibition have tried to take it off the books

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-assassination-attempt-election-news-09-16-24/index.html

This wash drawing shows Leon Czolgosz shooting President William McKinley with a concealed revolver at a Pan-American Exposition reception on September 6, 1901

Members of the US Secret Service Counter Sniper team set up watch from the roof of the House of Representatives on March 15, 2023, in Washington

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/politics/secret-service-history-what-matters/index.html

 

[Sundog]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1835717426698137628

Apparently the K-9/police dog was there as a bomb sniffing dog to check the vehicle at the time of the arrest.

 

[Sundog]

Increased security at Trump Tower, Nassau Coliseum, Bedminster after apparent assassination attempt

This assassination attempt is not only prompting changes in security at Trump Tower, but also ahead of his campaign rally at Nassau Coliseum on Wednesday.

abc7ny.com

 

[mickey2942]

I can totally envision this cosplay mercenary buying an illegal gun. I don't know if he did, but I wouldn't count it out just yet.

jmo

Gun show "loop hole". Allows private seller to sell a gun to an individual without paperwork and background checks. Pretty common in Montana.

There was quite a dustup a few years ago when ATF agents were taking pictures of license plates of attendees at a gun show in Great Falls, maybe to find some of these felons. And the county sheriff threw them off of the fairgrounds parking lot. Something about federal government agents doing undercover work with notifying local government authorities. Ah, it was Canadian police doing it.

ATF not commenting on undercover Canadian police officer at gun show in Great Falls

UPDATE: OCT. 17 AT 2:10 P.M.

www.montanarightnow.com

 

[SMK777]

 

[shotgun09]

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I would like to know if the SS has identified who if anyone was the suspect communicating with before, during and after his visit to the golf course.

 

[Cryptic]

Agree completely, another failure to secure the perimeter.

I think there is a middle road:

Securing the perimeter of a golf course is hard. Another poster mentioned that Presidents with a love of golf usually restrict their playing to military golf courses, or other carefully selected courses.

Trump's choice of that particular golf course, however, could of made security that much harder. Though there could of been error on the part of the security staff, Trump needs to help his own security staff more.

 

[Tower]

They again let a shooter get too close. If this continues eventually an assassin will succeed. JMO.

The Secret Service begin their sweep 2 holes ahead, so the shooter was two holes away from the former president, about 500 yards. Some articles say as close as 300 yards.

I think they did their job exactly as expected for an impromptu golf game for a non-sitting president. I guess the question is, are those parameters adequate? I think the first assassination attempt was a failure of Secret Service, while this one was not. Of course, that’s my own opinion and you disagree.

I’d be curious to know if Trump often golfs at that time on a Sunday afternoon? They are reporting it was unplanned, so why did this guy go out there at that time to try to assassinate him? There should be safety in keeping his schedule secret, but it didn’t work this time.

Gunman was close to Trump because 'he's not sitting president'-sheriff says

Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said the gunman was about 400 to 500 yards away from Trump and hidden in shrubbery.

www.newsweek.com

 

[SMK777]

I would like to know if the SS has identified who if anyone was the suspect communicating with before, during and after his visit to the golf course.

Very important. Hopefully reporters will ask this at this afternoon’s press conference.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

News photographers — including those hired by The Post — have had no problem repeatedly securing spots around the perimeter of the course to snap pictures of Trump playing golf or driving around in a golf cart.

They have even taken images — which require a clear line of sight to the 45th president — unnoticed through the bushes with telephoto lenses. Some have gotten as close as 75 yards — without so much as a sideways glance from the Secret Service.

Then-President Donald Trump playing golf on Dec. 28, 2020, at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach — the same club where the Secret Service foiled an assassination attempt this week.

Exclusive | Would-be Trump assassin exploited security hole that Secret Service has known about for years — and the pictures prove it

“They’re always amazed how close they can get to Trump and his entourage — it’s easy for them,” one photo agency source told The Post.

nypost.com

 

[Cryptic]

Agree, that site is easier to secure- but the same basic measures should have applied at this site. It doesn't take dozens of agents to do it, it only takes 1-2 agents or any random security person in a golf cart on each side.

I agree, 1-2 agents, police, or high end private security guards could make a security sweep along the perimeter.

But, it would take much more to actually secure the entire perimeter (make sure nobody sneaks in after the sweep has passed). Likewise, it would take much more truly search for a well concealed person in wood lines.