For those who agree with the verdict...help me understand.

[beccalecca1]

True, narcissism and sociopathy are not mental illnesses.

They are personality disorders that she was tested for according to the DSM-IV.

 

[gngr~snap]

"It appears the Orange County Sheriff’s Office intentionally suppressed exculpatory evidence that directly contradicted the State Attorney’s theory of premeditated murder in their attempt to have Casey convicted of First Degree Murder."
Now that both Cacheback and NetAnalysis have been updated to properly parse the Firefox 2 history file, what about those visits to the “chloroform.htm” page?

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011...nforcement-during-casey-anthony-murder-trial/

TO THE MEMBERS OF OCSD:
I am truly sorry that I was unable to refrain from discussing this issue in a less than positive light. .......
http://www.cacheback.ca/news/news_release-20110711-1.asp

this is going to be a big problem!

 

[Missie]

"It appears the Orange County Sheriff’s Office intentionally suppressed exculpatory evidence that directly contradicted the State Attorney’s theory of premeditated murder in their attempt to have Casey convicted of First Degree Murder."
Now that both Cacheback and NetAnalysis have been updated to properly parse the Firefox 2 history file, what about those visits to the “chloroform.htm” page?

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011...nforcement-during-casey-anthony-murder-trial/

TO THE MEMBERS OF OCSD:
I am truly sorry that I was unable to refrain from discussing this issue in a less than positive light. .......
http://www.cacheback.ca/news/news_release-20110711-1.asp

this is going to be a big problem!

I saw this earlier today too.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

"It appears the Orange County Sheriff’s Office intentionally suppressed exculpatory evidence that directly contradicted the State Attorney’s theory of premeditated murder in their attempt to have Casey convicted of First Degree Murder."
Now that both Cacheback and NetAnalysis have been updated to properly parse the Firefox 2 history file, what about those visits to the “chloroform.htm” page?

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011...nforcement-during-casey-anthony-murder-trial/

TO THE MEMBERS OF OCSD:
I am truly sorry that I was unable to refrain from discussing this issue in a less than positive light. .......
http://www.cacheback.ca/news/news_release-20110711-1.asp

this is going to be a big problem!

Nah, it won't be a problem. There's no proof of any malicious intent, just sloppiness. Besides, it did come out in trial the other analysis showed only one hit on that site. And she was acquitted anyway.

(P.S. As a juror, one visit would be enough for me to know anything relevant, and that once is not disputed. Casey visited that site after she googled "how to make chloraform." Unless she was writing a murder novel, she was up to no good.)

 

[erinleigh]

The reason I think the jury could not convict on count 2 aggravated child abuse, and count 3 aggravated manslaughter of a child is because the jury did not believe GA's testimony. In not believing GA's testimony, they could not reasonably conclude that KC was exclusively the caretaker on the 16th, GA was there as well. With both GA and KC there, and the distrust of GA's testimony, there was reasonable doubt as to who was at fault, KC or GA.

As always, my entire post is my opinion only.

but wouldnt that be the subject of Georges trial not caseys? this was about caseys culpability. this was her trial. if her and GA discovered Caylee missing at the same time and found her drowned it doesnt absolve casey of not rendering aid because GA testimony wasnt believable. he didnt place casey at TOD, the DT did. casey is responsible for her actions. if she was at TOD and did nothing what does GA have anything to do with that at caseys trial?
no disrespect but i still dont get it. GA wasnt on trial and no evidence was brought in that he was there. even if he was how does that make caseys actions legal. unless GA tied casey to a chair and prevented her from assisting casylee then how is it his responsibility that the mother did nothing. im more confused now than ever
so...the jury did not believe GAs testimony but they bought the DTs claims from casey a known liar. and made it his fault. im speechless. casey was Caylees mom. if anyone should have called 911 i would expect it to be her. she was caylees caregiver. she was in the home.

 

[logicalgirl]

Nah, it won't be a problem. There's no proof of any malicious intent, just sloppiness. Besides, it did come out in trial the other analysis showed only one hit on that site. And she was acquitted anyway.

(P.S. As a juror, one visit would be enough for me to know anything relevant, and that once is not disputed. Casey visited that site after she googled "how to make chloraform." Unless she was writing a murder novel, she was up to no good.)

And I commented to Mr. Hornsby, I'm not sure why Anthony supporters are now pretending that beyond the NG verdict, she apparently walked into the blessed river and emerged as pure as a new born babe! :banghead:

 

[logicalgirl]

but wouldnt that be the subject of Georges trial not caseys? this was about caseys culpability. this was her trial. if her and GA discovered Caylee missing at the same time and found her drowned it doesnt absolve casey of not rendering aid because GA testimony wasnt believable. he didnt place casey at TOD, the DT did. casey is responsible for her actions. if she was at TOD and did nothing what does GA have anything to do with that at caseys trial?
no disrespect but i still dont get it. GA wasnt on trial and no evidence was brought in that he was there. even if he was how does that make caseys actions legal. unless GA tied casey to a chair and prevented her from assisting casylee then how is it his responsibility that the mother did nothing. im more confused now than ever
so...the jury did not believe GAs testimony but they bought the DTs claims from casey a known liar. and made it his fault. im speechless. casey was Caylees mom. if anyone should have called 911 i would expect it to be her. she was caylees caregiver. she was in the home.

Agree, no matter what ICA claims happened and who was there, she was still Caylee's primary caregiver and it was her responsibility to call 911. To suggest she was intimidated by George is completely wiped out by her behavior towards both her parents during the taped jail visits.

And once she was sheltered and protected by the jail system and Baez, almost immediately after she was arrested, she had ample opportunity to tell the LE her version of the truth. Why go on TV, make statements and have her lawyer accuse everyone of the deed but her for three years.

There is no logical explanation, no matter what kind of magical thinking anyone tries to attribute it to.

 

[gngr~snap]

but wouldnt that be the subject of Georges trial not caseys? this was about caseys culpability. this was her trial. if her and GA discovered Caylee missing at the same time and found her drowned it doesnt absolve casey of not rendering aid because GA testimony wasnt believable. he didnt place casey at TOD, the DT did. casey is responsible for her actions. if she was at TOD and did nothing what does GA have anything to do with that at caseys trial?
no disrespect but i still dont get it. GA wasnt on trial and no evidence was brought in that he was there. even if he was how does that make caseys actions legal. unless GA tied casey to a chair and prevented her from assisting casylee then how is it his responsibility that the mother did nothing. im more confused now than ever
so...the jury did not believe GAs testimony but they bought the DTs claims from casey a known liar. and made it his fault. im speechless. casey was Caylees mom. if anyone should have called 911 i would expect it to be her. she was caylees caregiver. she was in the home.

This will be answered soon.
Whatever OSCO definition of soon is!

I am not directing this at you,but...

I was a fool!
maybe GA thought he could fool all of the
people all the time,
(800,000 on a website is a lot)
but some of the people
were only fooled some of the time.
rather than try to figure out who to
boycott, we are still sleuthing.
ok like 4 people in the US..
:truce:
moo

 

[Wendy101]

"It appears the Orange County Sheriff’s Office intentionally suppressed exculpatory evidence that directly contradicted the State Attorney’s theory of premeditated murder in their attempt to have Casey convicted of First Degree Murder."
Now that both Cacheback and NetAnalysis have been updated to properly parse the Firefox 2 history file, what about those visits to the “chloroform.htm” page?

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011...nforcement-during-casey-anthony-murder-trial/

TO THE MEMBERS OF OCSD:
I am truly sorry that I was unable to refrain from discussing this issue in a less than positive light. .......
http://www.cacheback.ca/news/news_release-20110711-1.asp

this is going to be a big problem!

Ouch!!!

 

[Soulmagent]

Here ya go . . . and I agree, this article explains a few things that make a horrid sense out of the verdict . . .

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ot-so-obvious-lessons-the-casey-anthony-trial

About the author. FWIW. I like to know why a person comes to the point of veiws they come to so I looked him up. Busy guy.
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[Wendy101]

Nah, it won't be a problem. There's no proof of any malicious intent, just sloppiness. Besides, it did come out in trial the other analysis showed only one hit on that site. And she was acquitted anyway.

(P.S. As a juror, one visit would be enough for me to know anything relevant, and that once is not disputed. Casey visited that site after she googled "how to make chloraform." Unless she was writing a murder novel, she was up to no good.)

Did SA use the "84 times" in the closing? I can't remember? Did they know then? Did they know before the opening? Why would they use it at all if they knew it really wasn't 84 times?

 

[gngr~snap]

Ouch!!!

If this doesn't turn out to be major I will be shocked!
I predicted the jury's verdict.

It just leads me to explore what
else was "missed" besides Caylee in August!

 

[Soulmagent]

This will be answered soon.
Whatever OSCO definition of soon is!

I am not directing this at you,but...

I was a fool!
maybe GA thought he could fool all of the
people all the time,
(800,000 on a website is a lot)
but some of the people
were only fooled some of the time.
rather than try to figure out who to
boycott, we are still sleuthing.
ok like 4 people in the US..
:truce:
moo

Why do you say the OCSO will answer soon? Havent heard them promise answers so if you have and could link me that would be wonderful.

Are they going to sell interveiws too?

 

[gngr~snap]

Why do you say the OCSO will answer soon? Havent heard them promise answers so if you have and could link me that would be wonderful.

Are they going to sell interveiws too?

"According to the OCSD officer, this discrepancy was known LONG before trial".

"This information was provided to the prosecution and to the OCSD in advance of the State's rebuttal, and the OCSD officer's second appearance (for the State). I even offered to fly down there overnight at my own expense to set the record straight"

http://www.cacheback.ca/news/news_release-20110711-1.asp

OSCO can continue to ignore it and KC can sue forcing them to re-open the case OR
OSCO can re-open the case and get sued anyway.

here's my arguement-

The 1 chloroform search was done 3/17/08 at 1:43pm
coinciding with fetish sites most women aren't known to
visit. We learned early on in the investigation that
GA has a history of this however most choose to
ignore that fact. (it was spouted all over the media)
The chloroform was search was done
after Ricardo M myspace site, The neck breaking etc
was also searched this day.
GA was known to follow KC and chase off any
boyfriends she had. Perhaps why she dated a few cops.

shortly after 1:43pm there is no activity until the next day.

on 3/21/08 the chloroform search is recalled from the
history. GA and CA were at work.
This was probably KC tracing his steps.
Remember she told many friends her dad was cheating?

KC was known to almost always delete her searches.
However the A's almost never did! Over 4 1/2 years
never cleared their history cache or cookies.
KC cashed her bday check that day. The timing
she did this may prove GA (or a random person in the home)
did the chloroform search.

Since the SAO was using chloroform/then duct tape was the murder
weapon(s) chloroform was searched 84 times!!!,
and the OHIO rare duct tape was used. It kinda narrows
it down to two people living in the home and had access to it.
The chloroform however??? GA and his "part of me,had it
for 20 years gas can" is a red flag to me. He went on about well that can there is a mix. OF WHAT? he said gas and oil.
But he also said he "did the gas" at the house-uh mowed the lawn.
CA said it's "not like she's in the woods " uhhh -out there somewhere"

The fact that the warnings from John Bradley were
known for many months, and went unheeded before
closing arguements are HUGE!

What if KC had gotten the DP?
the masses may be cool with that but IMO it is unexcusable!

If they ignored this what else didn't seem important?
3 calls about Caylee in the woods in August maybe?


I am a nurse not a lawyer. I will copy and post this to ask AZlawyer if this has any merit.

I forgot the question!
Oh! OSCO will have to answer for this soon!
No way this is getting swept under the rug.


They cleared GA. X-LE and all.
How well did they investigated him I wonder.


I am over pretending to know these "grandparents"
"grandparents " can be criminals too.
This is about Caylee!

IMO GA needs to be looked at now!
Was this his next get rich scheme?
CA perjured herself for George! not Casey!

I predicted the" not guilty verdict"
I said JB "knocked it out of the park"

I am fighting for what I believe in.

I believe KC was found not guilty because
the wrong person was charged.
NOTHING she could do but wait until her day in court.
FOR 3 YEARS!
IF people found out he let her sit there, as CM said "in a cage"
Most wouldn't believe that either.
KC has protected him til the bitter end.
I can't blame her for not calling him to thank him!
What daughter would ever speak to him again?
And YES! I still blame her too!
She grew up in that house, she knew what went on.
She did not protect her child.
THAT I don't get.

all moo

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...rge-anthony-s-prosecution-deposition-august-5
http://media.photobucket.com/image/...thony/caylee_anthony-0269-WebSearch-Pt08P.jpg

 

[Soulmagent]

Yeah I think they could have built a better case agaisnt GA to. He would have been convicted.

I never thought Cindy was trying to help Casey . For that all she would have had to say is she might have forgot to put the pool ladder away . So her saying she googled the household dangers was kinda puzzling.

 

[noopy]

so if she was not guilty, they why was she afraid to testify in court and speak the truth? i am very angry at the verdict, AND angry why casey anthony is now all of a sudden murderer turned celebrity?@#$ GOD help me understand. why was she driven off in an suv and then flown off in a PRIVATE PLANE? why does she need PROTECTION when last i heard she was in jail for most likely murdering her little girl? why would publishers even pay her $$$? i know she is infamous, but to walk free from murdering a prescious little girl and then go on to profit off of caylee's death is disgusting. what is wrong with america's value and justice system? i am sick of this... i keep hoping to see some form of justice for caylee, but it seems i am more angry the more i read.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I am no computer expert, but my DH is a computer forensics examiner. I tried and tried to get him to read everything, about the computer results, and he still hasn't fully explained it to me (where I could understand). What little he did say was that in 2008, Net Analysis had not been perfected (as you know). Why they didn't just use Encase, I don't know. Maybe they were trying to double check their computer findings by using two software programs. My DH seems to think that the main problem was a lack of conveying to the jury, in layman's terms, all things connected to the searches and findings. Usually they use graphs, poster to show searches, by the different people in the house, showing a behavioral profile. I don't think this was done. Not knocking the state, they had enough to present in this case. I really don't know if it would have made a difference, with this jury, anyway.

Most Sheriff's Dept's are lucky to have two CFE's. OCSD had two, but Sandra had only been practicing, in computer forensics for a year. Many LE offices only have one CFE and some have none (they contract the work out). The field is so new, especially the part about testifying in court as to their reports.

Sandra apologized, at the investigators post trial interview, for their mistakes. It's hard for even some of the better examiners to not make mistakes. They were looking for keywords, chloroform, etc...

Does anyone know if they analyzed the whole copy of the hard drive ? TIA.

 

[feddup]

True, narcissism and sociopathy are not mental illnesses.

I don't understand.
What do narcissism and sociopathy fall under? Personality flaws. ?
I just dont understand what draws the line at true mental illness.
I know that Schziophrenia is a mental illness and can be somewhat treated with meds.
I still think they shouldve done a brain scan on KC. She definately doesnt seem right. I think she knows the difference between right and wrong though.
To me, Ted Bundy, Aeileen Wornos and Jeffrey Dahmer definately had brain problems. Its is not normal to stalk brown haired women and kill them and ts not right to eat human body parts:sick:
But is also not right to dump your baby in a swamp and say she accidently drowned. :banghead:

 

[feddup]

Yeah I think they could have built a better case agaisnt GA to. He would have been convicted.

I never thought Cindy was trying to help Casey . For that all she would have had to say is she might have forgot to put the pool ladder away . So her saying she googled the household dangers was kinda puzzling.

But what if she did put it away each and everytime?

I dont see what case they wouldve had against GA. He was not in charge of Caylee, Casey was.
If he was responsible for this do you really think he wouldve been encouraging KC to talk to the FBI?

 

[Friday]

Loved the article posted by some one who knows what he's talking about and is speaking his mind without a TV camera shoved in his face and an invoice marked "pay me in his hand.

I thought the article was wonderful and information, and blunt, particularly his summation of what happens when a DT employs a jury consultant (snip below). The last sentence gave me chills, for some reason.

"It is said that in the Casey Anthony case we should not blame the jurors. I agree - we shouldn't. That is like buying lemmings as pets and then being surprised when they act lemming like. Those jurors were preferred by the defense team for a reason and they performed as expected."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201107/the-not-so-obvious-lessons-the-casey-anthony-trial

Thanks again for the recommendation.