Forensic Astrology - CAYLEE ANTHONY Reported Missing 7/15/2008: #3

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Lovejac said:
Thank you Calikid:blowkiss: Once again, I read soooo much more into something! Seems to be a theme for me lately!!
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:) That is very easy to do with this case. Everything seems suspicious.
 
Have our astrologers done a chart for June 16th at 1:50 PM when George stated he
saw KC and Caylee leave the Anthony home?

Many sleuthers still wonder if this statement from George was truthful or not.

A chart may answer this question.
 
The time was 12:50, MysteryAddict. I did do a chart for that day and it is here in thread #3. I was looking at Casey and Caylee and I based the chart on a gap in her tel. usage, not George's recall of the t.v. show and their goodbyes. I do not believe Caylee survived this day.

It was a day of crisis, with Mars at a critical degree and the south node, also of course critical, conjunct Mars. This all was on George's Pluto and Caylee's ASC.

The hostile dance at the trunk of the Pontiac was to occur in a few days and that registers as a coming event in the chart of June 16, one that fully aroused his suspicions. I never felt he shaded her avoidance when he gave his account. He made it clear she did not want him in the trunk or in the car and that she cut up rough.
 
The chart for 12:53 pm, June 16 is on page 4 of this #3 thread at post #81 and #83. The first post is the chart itself. The Part of Fatality is 26:07 Scorpio square Neptune of poisoning in the air of Aquarius. The second chart point to examine when looking for death is the Part of Death. Here it is 29:09 Capricorn in the H. of the child and it conjoins the natal Lilith of Casey.
 
Back on one of the previous Astrology threads, I looked at a 2:50 pm time of death on 6/16/08 (discussed at post below):

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2598567#post2598567


Today I was looking at charts between 12:03 pm on Sunday 6/15 (the time Caylee was videotaped at nursing home with great-granddad on Father's Day) and early morning Tuesday 6/17.

Here's what really grabbed me: At 11:52 pm Sunday night 6/15/08 transit MARS is exactly on Caylee's natal Ascendant, 1 minute applying. This transit MARS is exactly conjunct (same degree) malefic South Node placing MARS in Fateful degree (a catastrophe, tragedy, fatality). Also, JUPITER is in Fateful Degree and so is the Event chart Ascendant and Chiron!!

I uploaded two charts, the first is this possible 6-15-08 death date by itself and the second is a biwheel showing Caylee's natal chart as inner and the possible 6-15-08 death date as outer.

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/PossibleCayleeDeath6-15-08.gif

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/PossibleCayleeDeath6-15-08Biwheel.gif


Notice the following:

North/South Nodes 20:06 Leo (across the Ascendant/Descendant axis)
MARS 20:52 Leo (conjunct Caylee's natal Ascendant 20:53 Leo)
JUPITER 20:15Rx Capricorn (trine Caylee's natal Venus 20:53 Virgo; also note JUPITER is (traditional) ruler of Caylee's 8th House of Death)
CHIRON 20:54Rx Aquarius exact conjunct Event chart Ascendant and exact opposition Caylee's natal Ascendant

Additionally, at this 11:52 pm time on Sunday night 6/15/08, Black Moon Lilith (death indicator when prominent) is conjunct Midheaven and square Ascendant (traditional) ruler Saturn.

Part of Death 19:57 Sagittarius is aspecting every single one of those planets listed above in 20 degrees and square Caylee's natal Venus 20:53 Virgo.

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By 2:50 pm Monday 6/16/08, Event chart Ascendant was at 14:33 Libra --- partile conjunct Caylee's natal Jupiter within 2 minutes. Jupiter (traditionally) rules Caylee's natal 8th house of Death.

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As I was discussing with Kaitland off thread, late Sunday evening 6/15/08 through approx. 7:30 pm Monday 6/16/08 (whenever Casey was videotaped on the Blockbuster security camera) is the death window, but late Sunday night through mid-afternoon on 6/16/08 looks awfully suspicious.....

Also, keep in mind, MARS, the killer planet at Event Chart Ascendant rules Caylee's natal 4th House of the Mother...

Tuba, please add your further insights.


Thanks,
Soulscape
 
I do not know anything about astrology and I am fascinated by this. Contrary to the pings....and supposed evidence before the BOND hearing in my dream I asked what day Caylee went to Heaven and I was told clearly JUNE 14th......... I do not know who kindly responded, Caylee's soul was aware of the impending death, I hope I phrased it properly. Would it be possible for a chart on Caylee the 14th? If not that is OK, I know the Father's Day video states differently..and I can not let go of the 14th, MAYBE DENIAL, but we all know DENIAL does not play any part in this saga.
 
Soulscape said:
Back on one of the previous Astrology threads, I looked at a 2:50 pm time of death on 6/16/08 (discussed at post below):

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2598567#post2598567


Today I was looking at charts between 12:03 pm on Sunday 6/15 (the time Caylee was videotaped at nursing home with great-granddad on Father's Day) and early morning Tuesday 6/17.

Here's what really grabbed me: At 11:52 pm Sunday night 6/15/08 transit MARS is exactly on Caylee's natal Ascendant, 1 minute applying. This transit MARS is exactly conjunct (same degree) malefic South Node placing MARS in Fateful degree (a catastrophe, tragedy, fatality). Also, JUPITER is in Fateful Degree and so is the Event chart Ascendant and Chiron!!

I uploaded two charts, the first is this possible 6-15-08 death date by itself and the second is a biwheel showing Caylee's natal chart as inner and the possible 6-15-08 death date as outer.

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/PossibleCayleeDeath6-15-08.gif

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/PossibleCayleeDeath6-15-08Biwheel.gif


Notice the following:

North/South Nodes 20:06 Leo (across the Ascendant/Descendant axis)
MARS 20:52 Leo (conjunct Caylee's natal Ascendant 20:53 Leo)
JUPITER 20:15Rx Capricorn (trine Caylee's natal Venus 20:53 Virgo; also note JUPITER is (traditional) ruler of Caylee's 8th House of Death)
CHIRON 20:54Rx Aquarius exact conjunct Event chart Ascendant and exact opposition Caylee's natal Ascendant

Additionally, at this 11:52 pm time on Sunday night 6/15/08, Black Moon Lilith (death indicator when prominent) is conjunct Midheaven and square Ascendant (traditional) ruler Saturn.

Part of Death 19:57 Sagittarius is aspecting every single one of those planets listed above in 20 degrees and square Caylee's natal Venus 20:53 Virgo.

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By 2:50 pm Monday 6/16/08, Event chart Ascendant was at 14:33 Libra --- partile conjunct Caylee's natal Jupiter within 2 minutes. Jupiter (traditionally) rules Caylee's natal 8th house of Death.

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As I was discussing with Kaitland off thread, late Sunday evening 6/15/08 through approx. 7:30 pm Monday 6/16/08 (whenever Casey was videotaped on the Blockbuster security camera) is the death window, but late Sunday night through mid-afternoon on 6/16/08 looks awfully suspicious.....

Also, keep in mind, MARS, the killer planet at Event Chart Ascendant rules Caylee's natal 4th House of the Mother...

Tuba, please add your further insights.


Thanks,
Soulscape
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Soulscape, I have read your post 3 times and I feel as if I am missing something.

As you know, I have been following this thread since the beginning and have soaked up all your posts :blowkiss:

Are you saying that you don't think Caylee even saw the day of 6/16/08? Do you think she was killed Fathers Day night?

I apologize if I am being dense! I have been battling with a NASTY bug that has made its round with all my 3 boys, so there hasn't been alot of sleep in my house!

Thanks!
 
Soulscape - the other issue at hand as to the timing of death...if indeed it was chloroform or other drug (which I believe it was), the time of death could have been many many hours after Casey's ACTION of administering the drug...so the different charts could end up representing 1.) the ACTION that led to death, and 2.) the actual moment of death/cessation of breathing/soul departing. I feel the intensity of mars relates to the ACTION by Casey. Fascinating how we can glean so many layers of information by looking at the various charts.
Have been thinking so much about the search coming up on Saturday....pondering once again about "timing" because the search has been a very intense and ongoing process ...making maps, looking at the phone record pings, orchestrating a myriad of details...and I think these actions do count as "looking for Caylee" also. I wonder what a "span of time" can tell us about the search.
I did a chart (still cannot get it to post!!!) for sunrise 6:43am "the dawning of day" 11/8/08. The chart angles lock onto Caylee's natal chart. Ascendant is 15 & Sun 16 Scorpio (straddles Caylee's n. 4th house cusp end of life) and Midheaven is 20 Leo, which is Caylee's n. ascendant degree - showing her resting place is the "highest concern in the chart. Neptune at 4th cusp is the mystery to be solved. Mercury in Scorpio in h. 12 in wide trine support to moon/uranus in Pisces holds promise of revealing secrets deeply hidden.
If you set the chart to sunset to reveal what is at the "close of the day" at 5:35pm 11/8/08 the ascendant changes to 18 Taurus (Caylee's n. MH) with ruler Venus in Sag w/ Pluto in 8th h. of death. Now Midheaven is 4 Aquarius which places Caylee's n. Saturn 3 Leo smack on 4th H cusp "end of the matter" and "final resting place" along w/her Mercury & Sun. Moon/Uranus conj in Pisces "emotional shocks" very tight and in 11th h. hopes & wishes & organizations (TES) widely trine to a very aggressive Sun/ Mars in Scorpio on 7th h. of "others", especially LE. I like the 9th h. Jupiter in this chart (people at a distance) in support of the Moon/Uranus + Sun/Mars + Saturn. TES should prevail.
I see George standing at the edge of the woods, knowing Caylee will finally be home soon.
 
Lovejac said:
Soulscape, I have read your post 3 times and I feel as if I am missing something.

As you know, I have been following this thread since the beginning and have soaked up all your posts :blowkiss:

Are you saying that you don't think Caylee even saw the day of 6/16/08? Do you think she was killed Fathers Day night?

I apologize if I am being dense! I have been battling with a NASTY bug that has made its round with all my 3 boys, so there hasn't been alot of sleep in my house!

Thanks!
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You know lovejac,
It is possible that she came back for Caylee after everyone was asleep-chlorformed her right there in her bed so she would not cry or awaken and took her off into the night. This could easily have been the scenario, or the argument/fight could have gone on for LONG-remember Cindy did not even get back to the house WITH Caylee that evening until sometime after 8 pm, so if Casey came at 9 or 10 and the fight occurred THEN she could very well have taken her right out the door that night and done her dirty deeds immediately after.

I hope your boys are recovering-if it is a rotovirus, did you know they are NOW immunizing against that after it has been KILLING so many children especially in China?
 
magic-cat said:
You know lovejac,
It is possible that she came back for Caylee after everyone was asleep-chlorformed her right there in her bed so she would not cry or awaken and took her off into the night. This could easily have been the scenario, or the argument/fight could have gone on for LONG-remember Cindy did not even get back to the house WITH Caylee that evening until sometime after 8 pm, so if Casey came at 9 or 10 and the fight occurred THEN she could very well have taken her right out the door that night and done her dirty deeds immediately after.

I hope your boys are recovering-if it is a rotovirus, did you know they are NOW immunizing against that after it has been KILLING so many children especially in China?
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Okay, that makes more sense to me. I, for the life of me, can't see cindy 'letting' casey take Caylee after a huge fight or kicking them out.

My boys are on the mend, thanks for asking! It lasted 48 hours for each of them. Little Austin was the last, no fever since around 2pm. I cannot believe I didn't get it! THAT is good to know about rotovirus, I will definitely ask next visit!:blowkiss:
 
Lovejac said:
Okay, that makes more sense to me. I, for the life of me, can't see cindy 'letting' casey take Caylee after a huge fight or kicking them out.

My boys are on the mend, thanks for asking! It lasted 48 hours for each of them. Little Austin was the last, no fever since around 2pm. I cannot believe I didn't get it! THAT is good to know about rotovirus, I will definitely ask next visit!:blowkiss:
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OT, but once you've had rotovirus, you can't get it again.
 
MiraclesHappen said:
http://.com/2005/12/11/happy-birthday-tim-miller-of-texas-equusearch/


Thanks to all in this thread. I found this :birthday_party:Happy 59th Birthday!!! message to Tim, listed on 12-11- 2005. I did a search and found other posts which link this site so I am assuming it is not on the forbidden list. It is linked above.:blowkiss:

Hope this helps...
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Would that be December 11th or November 12th?

I haven't found his birth information yet, as given by MiraclesHappen above, but I've found his marriage record to wife Georgeann. They were married 19 May 1990 in Galveston County, Texas. This could be the date of their marriage license, or could be the actual date of their marriage. I'm assuming this is his second marriage (or later), as his daughter was killed in 1984.

I don't know if this could help us with this weekend's search though. The record only gives his name as Timothy Miller. I was hoping for a middle name. His name is Timothy A. Miller, according to a record I found where he was honored by Congress in 2002.

Tim began EquuSearch in August 2000. His daughter was abducted 10 September 1984 in League City, Texas. Her remains were found 17 months later. The Texas Death Records give her date of death as 2 Feb 1986, although the newspaper says her remains were found Feb 3rd. I don't know if any of this helps to associate Tim astrologically with the birth record given above as his, but it might.
 
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Kaitland, just assuming you have seen the chart for the official start of the Saturday search, which is posted on page 4 of this thread (3) at #86.

Your sunrise horoscope may represent more than TES, instead the whole community of Orlando focusing on the search from the moment of awakening? With Caylee at the H.10 cusp and her end of life rising, the day seems very personal to her. The TES launch chart reinforces the reception of spiritual guidance. Before the search begins at 8:00 a.m., the Moon will have separated from her contraparallel to Saturn and parallel to Uranus, which leads me to the notion of leads from dreams the previous night.

The Moon was last over Neptune in both charts, so intuition in the days before November 8 will assist powerfully. The 8 o'clock search begins during the Jupiter hour and Sagittarius rises, with Jupiter trine Saturn on a Saturn day. I like the Moon - Sun trine too for substantial progress. With an array of planets at the middle of a series of Signs, there is an orderly, methodical approach.

When I analysed my chart, sub-groups were part of the picture and Venus ruled a sub-group and is protecting the venture from a First House position. She is in a dual Sign and with Pluto in a dual Sign, so this is a collection of people on horseback. There are plenty of foot scouts too with Moon and Uranus both in dual Pisces. And, always that child, Mercury at 6:17 Scorpio trine the Part of Find at 6:02 Pisces. He or she has excellent instincts.
 
KAITLAND said:
Soulscape - the other issue at hand as to the timing of death...if indeed it was chloroform or other drug (which I believe it was), the time of death could have been many many hours after Casey's ACTION of administering the drug...so the different charts could end up representing 1.) the ACTION that led to death, and 2.) the actual moment of death/cessation of breathing/soul departing. I feel the intensity of mars relates to the ACTION by Casey.
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Excellent observation, Kaitland! Another possibility is that the 11:52 pm time could be symbolic of the action Casey was to soon take (the next day). Perhaps MARS at that degree triggered Casey (so likely after the huge fight with parents). Perhaps that was the moment Casey consciously decided she would put her plan into action....

The reason I bring this up is because after reading George's taped transcript with LE released today, I noted he seems to have an exceptionally strong memory/ recollection of times as well as dates (not surprising for a Virgo), which strengthens the possibility that he was in fact telling the truth, that he saw Casey & Caylee at 12:50 pm on Monday 6/16/08.

I have to admit, I have felt he did see them at that date and time from the start...

Thanks,
Soulscape
 
Soulscape said:
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Excellent observation, Kaitland! Another possibility is that the 11:52 pm time could be symbolic of the action Casey was to soon take (the next day). Perhaps MARS at that degree triggered Casey (so likely after the huge fight with parents). Perhaps that was the moment Casey consciously decided she would put her plan into action....

The reason I bring this up is because after reading George's taped transcript with LE released today, I noted he seems to have an exceptionally strong memory/ recollection of times as well as dates (not surprising for a Virgo), which strengthens the possibility that he was in fact telling the truth, that he saw Casey & Caylee at 12:50 pm on Monday 6/16/08.

I have to admit, I have felt he did see them at that date and time from the start...

Thanks,
Soulscape
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Good on you, Soul.
I 'just knew' he way lying. Now I am feeling so bad about it all.
 
Sorry, Soulscape. I do not have any insights beyond what we have all put on the board here from the beginning about the death itself. Leonard said last night that a choloroform soaked rag had been left in the trunk. He didn't seem to be inferring this but instead stating that he knew of a rag taken in evidence.

If true, we don't know whether Caylee was left in the car for sufficient time to harm and kill her from the rag in proximity or whether she died from a specific application of the rag to her face. I strongly believe she was given chloroform from June 13 on. Not casually but by Casey playing anaesthetist. By the 16th, the poisonous routine had been underway for three days.

All the charts for that two day period are interesting and if we continue to study them, we'll figure out more. I see that the Moon was trine and parallel Neptune on the day I believe this drugging took place for the first time. I have the Part of Fatality at 26:07 Scorpio and you have the Moon at 27. The saturated rag itself is the Moon and in the Sign of poison, Scorpio, looks like the lethal combination.
 
chesterp said:
I do not know anything about astrology and I am fascinated by this. Contrary to the pings....and supposed evidence before the BOND hearing in my dream I asked what day Caylee went to Heaven and I was told clearly JUNE 14th......... I do not know who kindly responded, Caylee's soul was aware of the impending death, I hope I phrased it properly. Would it be possible for a chart on Caylee the 14th? If not that is OK, I know the Father's Day video states differently..and I can not let go of the 14th, MAYBE DENIAL, but we all know DENIAL does not play any part in this saga.
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Caylee was born with Mercury on the North Node of Neptune: psychic premonition, ESP. If you scrutinize the video from the nursing home, and I'm sure you have, you can see foreboding & apprehension in her face and even her movements. If Cindy had asked her, "Do you want to stay with Grand Da?" Caylee would have said yes. We have no chart for Caylee for June 14 because we have no time on the clock to look at but we can look at the transits to her chart on that day.

You know from my posts if you read them that she had been drugged for several days (June 13 on). So, she probably did "go to heaven" that Saturday, June 14. I mean really, as in a NDE. That tells you how dangerous the chloroforming had already been, before the fatal dose.
 
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