Forensic evidence

[JMO8778]

Me too. I think that SHE should be arrested for carting away so much evidence. Things that she claimed were "for the funeral".


I didn't know about her telling Chromiak that she was a millionaire by age 30, and she worked as a cosmetic counter attendant....or about the Happy Meal...she must have really been famished, after carting all of that evidence away. Hiding evidence takes alot out of a person! I can't believe how far backward the police bent over for the Ramsey's....its ridiculous!!!

she had to psych herself up a bit.or so she said anyway .. saying, 'i can do this,i can do this...!!!!!'

 

[Nuisanceposter]

She was too busy whininggg about the gloves? get them off,get them off,GET THEM OFFFFFF !!! LOL

Lol, as if there was some type of infectious evil that might spread if she doesn't get the gloves off immediately without a drama-driven hissy fit. YOU CAN DO IT, Pam!

 

[Ames]

she had to psych herself up a bit.or so she said anyway .. saying, 'i can do this,i can do this...!!!!!'

She said that she had to psych herself up? Was that her reason for lying about being a millionaire by age 30? If so, thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I can't understand how in the world, she could just sit there and talk about herself, and make crap up after finding out her niece had just been murdered!!!
I wonder why she wasn't invited to the "party", that Patsy held....after finding the ransom note.

 

[Ames]

Lol, as if there was some type of infectious evil that might spread if she doesn't get the gloves off immediately without a drama-driven hissy fit. YOU CAN DO IT, Pam!

Okay guys...what is this about the gloves??? Never heard this one before!!!

 

[JMO8778]

She said that she had to psych herself up? Was that her reason for lying about being a millionaire by age 30? If so, thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I can't understand how in the world, she could just sit there and talk about herself, and make crap up after finding out her niece had just been murdered!!!
I wonder why she wasn't invited to the "party", that Patsy held....after finding the ransom note.

I think she was home at that time,in another state? I think it was said she and sister polly flew in that night.

 

[JMO8778]

Okay guys...what is this about the gloves??? Never heard this one before!!!

It's in the book 'Jonbenet' by Steve Thomas.

 

[Ames]

I think she was home at that time,in another state? I think it was said she and sister polly flew in that night.

OH okay...that would explain it...thanks

 

[Ames]

It's in the book 'Jonbenet' by Steve Thomas.

I haven't read his book...although I REALLY need to. What does it say...in a nutshell, about the gloves???

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Oh, I just rechecked, it was age 32.

ST, hb, page 53

Pam finally got into the front seat, clutching some stuffed animals, and Chromiak drove off, only to have Pam thrust out her arms and scream as if spiders were crawling on her. "Get these gloves off of me! Get them off! Get them off! Get them OFF!" The puzzled cop removed the latex gloves, and Pam immediately felt better. "I need a large Diet Coke with a lot of ice," she demanded. "Right now!"

On the way to the fast food restaurant, Chromiak told me, her passenger described making her first million dollars before the age of thirty-two and not knowing what to do with all her money. In reality, she worked at a department store cosmetics counter. The patrol car, stuffed with Ramsey belongings, went to a drive-up window, and Pam (still wearing the BPD jacket) settled down with a Happy Meal. Chromiak paid the bill.


*Here's what I'm thinking - what a spoiled little liar. Screaming about the gloves, having the officer, who is driving at the time, pull them off of her like Chromiak is her maid...bragging about having a million dollars and not knowing what to do with the money when she works at a make-up counter (why would a millionaire bother working a job like that? She likes cosmetics and applying them and selling them that much?)...and having the officer who isn't a millionaire and is doing her an extremely huge favor pick up the bill for her snack.

I just want to slap her and tell her to get over herself.

 

[Ames]

Oh, I just rechecked, it was age 32.

ST, hb, page 53

Pam finally got into the front seat, clutching some stuffed animals, and Chromiak drove off, only to have Pam thrust out her arms and scream as if spiders were crawling on her. "Get these gloves off of me! Get them off! Get them off! Get them OFF!" The puzzled cop removed the latex gloves, and Pam immediately felt better. "I need a large Diet Coke with a lot of ice," she demanded. "Right now!"

On the way to the fast food restaurant, Chromiak told me, her passenger described making her first million dollars before the age of thirty-two and not knowing what to do with all her money. In reality, she worked at a department store cosmetics counter. The patrol car, stuffed with Ramsey belongings, went to a drive-up window, and Pam (still wearing the BPD jacket) settled down with a Happy Meal. Chromiak paid the bill.


*Here's what I'm thinking - what a spoiled little liar. Screaming about the gloves, having the officer, who is driving at the time, pull them off of her like Chromiak is her maid...bragging about having a million dollars and not knowing what to do with the money when she works at a make-up counter (why would a millionaire bother working a job like that? She likes cosmetics and applying them and selling them that much?)...and having the officer who isn't a millionaire and is doing her an extremely huge favor pick up the bill for her snack.

I just want to slap her and tell her to get over herself.

What was her problem with the latex gloves...that is really, REALLY strange! Didn't sound like she was too concerned about her niece just being murdered, does it? It was ALL about her!!

 

[LionRun]

I've been doing lots of reading on this case recently to catch up on 10 years worth stuff, most of which I knew little about except from TV. I did find a copy of one of the search warrants; but, I can't remember where to find the link (VERY sorry guys! If I find it I'll post it asap). There was a line intentionally scratched out. Next to it it read something like, "blacked out". Could this be a hold back? In this case I wouldn't be surprised if one or more holdbacks got out. But, I do wonder what may have been written in that blacked space.

 

[lannie]

I've been doing lots of reading on this case recently to catch up on 10 years worth stuff, most of which I knew little about except from TV. I did find a copy of one of the ; but, I can't remember where to find the link (VERY sorry guys! If I find it I'll post it asap). There was a line intentionally scratched out. Next to it it read something like, "blacked out". Could this be a hold back? In this case I wouldn't be surprised if one or more holdbacks got out. But, I do wonder what may have been written in that blacked space.

A CANDY ROSE ,WILL ANSWER A LOT OF YOUR Q'S ,I JUST SPENT A FEW HOURS THERE,search warrants ARE THERE,,, JUST SCROLE DOWN ,,http://www.acandyrose.com/

 

[coloradokares]

Nope I don't mind..., thanks for jumping in. I don't feel that I was in the wrong, though. All I did was asked a simple question...and then, my post gets snipped and taken out of context...if this post goes toward the way that the "other" board did....it wasn't my fault.

You absolutely were not in the wrong on this. You have the absolute right to ask a question. You are always kind and thoughtful and never have I ever seen you in all these months intentionally try to create strife or dissention of any kind ever. You state your belief and why and there is nothing wrong with that ever. You have provided diligently proof of what your saying as well. That is alway appreciated or should be by anyone with anyview point. We are lucky to have you here with us at this forum. JMHO

 

[UKGuy]

What was her problem with the latex gloves...that is really, REALLY strange! Didn't sound like she was too concerned about her niece just being murdered, does it? It was ALL about her!!

Ames,

Well depends if the latex gloves were intended to prevent crime-scene contamination or if she found them there?

Did she remove the size-12's saying they were for Patsy, e.g. they would not look like a childs size?


Somebody removed them and it was not the police.

Another solution is they they were opened by Patsy upstairs in her bedroom where they were stored, one pair was used to redress Jonbenet, and by the time the police realized the significance of JonBenet's size-12's , the remaining size-12's had already been transported to the Ramsey's new address, only to be returned at a later date when their direct linking to JonBenet's death becomes evident!



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[LionRun]

A CANDY ROSE ,WILL ANSWER A LOT OF YOUR Q'S ,I JUST SPENT A FEW HOURS THERE,search warrants ARE THERE,,, JUST SCROLE DOWN ,,http://www.acandyrose.com/

Thanks lannie. I'm reading lots on acandyrose lately. But, what was initially written in the blocked out line is what I would like to know. And, I was also wondering if others have ever questioned or know what was on that line.

 

[coloradokares]

Ames,

Well depends if the latex gloves were intended to prevent crime-scene contamination or if she found them there?

Did she remove the size-12's saying they were for Patsy, e.g. they would not look like a childs size?


Somebody removed them and it was not the police.

Another solution is they they were opened by Patsy upstairs in her bedroom where they were stored, one pair was used to redress Jonbenet, and by the time the police realized the significance of JonBenet's size-12's , the remaining size-12's had already been transported to the Ramsey's new address, only to be returned at a later date when their direct linking to JonBenet's death becomes evident!



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The bpd scoured that house and even took doors off hinges into evidence. I think they'd not miss underwear ..... There is a warehouse full of evidence in Boulder in storage to this day. Most especially when underware were direct targets of specific interest due to the sexual issues regarding JonBenets death. If they took all other underwear into evidence why not those?

 

[UKGuy]

The bpd scoured that house and even took doors off hinges into evidence. I think they'd not miss underwear ..... There is a warehouse full of evidence in Boulder in storage to this day. Most especially when underware were direct targets of specific interest due to the sexual issues regarding JonBenets death. If they took all other underwear into evidence why not those?

coloradokares,

Sure they might not miss underwear, but they were probably only looking for childrens underwear, as in size-4/6 etc.

If Patsy had put the remaining size-12's in another of her own drawers maybe these were overlooked?

Otherwise they left the house by some other route, since they cannot both be at the house in which JonBenet was killed and at their new address?

So like the pineapple it has that smell of something out of place?


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[Ames]

You absolutely were not in the wrong on this. You have the absolute right to ask a question. You are always kind and thoughtful and never have I ever seen you in all these months intentionally try to create strife or dissention of any kind ever. You state your belief and why and there is nothing wrong with that ever. You have provided diligently proof of what your saying as well. That is alway appreciated or should be by anyone with anyview point. We are lucky to have you here with us at this forum. JMHO

Thanks CK...you just made my day!!! I feel lucky to have found you guys and this board....

 

[Ames]

Ames,

Well depends if the latex gloves were intended to prevent crime-scene contamination or if she found them there?

Did she remove the size-12's saying they were for Patsy, e.g. they would not look like a childs size?


Somebody removed them and it was not the police.

Another solution is they they were opened by Patsy upstairs in her bedroom where they were stored, one pair was used to redress Jonbenet, and by the time the police realized the significance of JonBenet's size-12's , the remaining size-12's had already been transported to the Ramsey's new address, only to be returned at a later date when their direct linking to JonBenet's death becomes evident!



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I don't know for a fact, but...I am pretty sure that the police gave them (the gloves) to her to wear to prevent contamination of the crime scene...I wouldn't think that she would spot a pair of latex gloves there in the house, and then slip them on. I am guessing that the police had tons of them in their cars...and gave her some to wear so that she could rummage through the crime scene and pick out "funeral clothes"...along with tons of other things (enough to fill the backseat and trunk of a police cruiser). I know that we have NO idea what all she took out of the house that night...but, I have heard that along with the clothes, she took dolls, one of Patsy's paintings, stuffed animals, and a few other small things to place in JB's coffin. Can anyone else add to this list?? We know that more than that was taken, because of all the space needed to haul it (the backseat, and trunk).

 

[Ames]

coloradokares,

Sure they might not miss underwear, but they were probably only looking for childrens underwear, as in size-4/6 etc.

If Patsy had put the remaining size-12's in another of her own drawers maybe these were overlooked?

Otherwise they left the house by some other route, since they cannot both be at the house in which JonBenet was killed and at their new address?

So like the pineapple it has that smell of something out of place?


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I believe that those panties made it out of the house by way of PAM...when she went in to retrieve those "funeral clothes". Sounded more like she was helping the Ramsey's move.