Forensic reports in

[doogiesgirl]

I agree with those saying the trunk was cleaned out. It had to be. And I know who I think it was.............this will be crazy when we do get all the answers.

I was thinking the same thing!! Get that shop vac from the A's! Oh yeah that trunk was cleaned out and but good.

 

[Chezhire]

There are several photos of the car, sitting in the Forensics Bay the day it was towed in for testing. Although the car had sat out for a least 2 weeks, Amscot, tow yard,... and who knows where before that, it is shiny, sparkly clean.
You don't think Cindy let that car sit dirty, do you? And where do you think her disclaimer came from- she threw out that LE hadn't seemed the least bit interested in the car the night of the 15th. That's Cindyspeak for, what, I did something wrong having my "OCD car cleaning" husband detail the car??? Caylee died and was left to decompose in the trunk.
:bang:There were maggots in the car.

Not that I agree with Cindy's rationale (beacuse I DO NOT) but I read her comments about the car and LE not being in any hurry to collect it, together with the rest of her commentary, as her way of trying to make a defense of whatever *someone(s)* did to the car before LE finally collected it. She's like " well, who really cares what so-and-so did to it, washed or otherwise, since it wasn't that important to LE anyway, right?" :bang: , I know, but it's the way I read her mind...

 

[Blink34]

Any scientists on board (and sorry if the following was asked and answered already): Can we assume that Caylee's bio-dad was likely not hispanic from the initial reports as only 1 person out of all their database who was hispanic had her type of markers. [I know that is not the question of the sample but one can draw conclusions.] Or am I reading this wrong?

It is only a mtdna result, no paternal markers are on there, it would just be reflective of her Mother and relatives to her Mother.

 

[impatientredhead]

They were looking at diferent samples. I think the hair showed trace amounts of Chloroform, which would be normal for decomposition. The carpet and air showed significant.

As far as the "Low oxygen environment decomposition". I tend to always follow the simplest path. The body was in a big plastic trash bag (much like LP hypothesized awile back).

I think the trunk itself is a low oxygen environment.

 

[Bev]

If this is the best they have and I was Jose Baez I would go to trial. KC was damned lucky she put those gasoline cans in the trunk.

 

[doubletrouble]

It is only a mtdna result, no paternal markers are on there, it would just be reflective of her Mother and relatives to her Mother.

one of cindys interviews she told le she knew who the father was and it was eric or erik b cant post last name...anyone recall?

 

[mom4321]

Didn't they get samples of DNA from the people involved in this case? They may know who the father is, but are not releasing the info. It may be a "bombshell".

didnt they go to meet up with the marine casey had wanted to take a trip to see ? if so he may have willingly given his dna and hes the father ?

 

[Capri]

I was thinking the same thing!! Get that shop vac from the A's! Oh yeah that trunk was cleaned out and but good.

Please tell me they got that shop vac!

 

[Paladine]

No bag-maggot test results. Who's testing those, the FDLE?

I was wondering the same thing. And the dirt from the backyard...

Interesting there was no maggots on pizza. And, if I'm understanding correctly, no pizza was found in the car. I guess Cindy SAYS she threw it out? I'm not so sure. Interesting also...early stage decomp of the type that would happen in an area lacking oxygen. Like a trunk, maybe?

I REALLY hope the maggots will tell us more...as in drugs ingested, like chloroform...I love Scientists.

 

[Theonly1]

Good lord, the Body Farm did a pizza test, too.

Good for them! I'm so glad they closed the door on the pizza and on the animal decomp avenues (though I'm sure the defense will attempt it anyway).

Question:
SOOOO if there WAS NO PIZZA in the trunk WHAT were the active flies and maggots feeding ON? WHERE DID IT GO????

Things that make you go...HMMM.

 

[princess]

Any scientists on board (and sorry if the following was asked and answered already): Can we assume that Caylee's bio-dad was likely not hispanic from the initial reports as only 1 person out of all their database who was hispanic had her type of markers. [I know that is not the question of the sample but one can draw conclusions.] Or am I reading this wrong?

My husband would be considered Hispanic in the USA ...
however he is Spainish from spain..and is white as a ghost

So when you say hispanic you do mean Non-white hispanic?

 

[lizzysf]

Manny, they finally got Lee's dna.

Well i'm sure Dr. Baden is just speculating...who would tell him anything? They would have to have the fathers dNA to test, and yes, they do have Lee's...but no one knows. All they have is mitchondrial dNA to test if I read it right, and that would only pertain to maternal characteristics, not paternal.

 

[Chezhire]

Well, LP has been a telling us for a looong time now that he knows who the father is. :waitasec: Just a reminder, folks.

How can they know who the father is without HIS DNA? Are you saying "it's all in the family" Can this case get any more soap opera???

good question.

I think that SOMEONE has performed the DNA analysis on a suspected Caylee father, though I do not believe it was LE (b/c they don't want to have to turn over the bombshell evidence right now,) I do believe that the PRIVATE THIRD PARTY (hint,hint, folks) who performed the DNA analysis on the suspected baby daddy DID give LE an informal, verbal indication as to whether or not the suspected father's DNA matched that DNA testing for Caylee that LE had already obtained from JG.

I think that LE is still trying to decide whether or not to have a grand jury consider charges against an accomplice(s) and that the suspected accomplice(s) MAY be the father. When and if LE decides they have enough for the grand jury to consider re: the accomplice, whom they already know is the father, they will THEN have the formal DNA testing/comparative analysis done, and only then will the defense team get those comparative results. (Course, who knows what Casey has already told or intimated to JB, if he wasn't able to shut her up in time because he reallyreallyreally doesn't need to know that kind of info. when trying to defend her...)
Just a sayin...

 

[Theonly1]

Deprived oxygen type of decompositional event- hmm. Does this lead to Caylee having been placed in a sealed container?

Sure sounds like it to me!

 

[CallerID]

How can they know who the father is without HIS DNA? Are you saying "it's all in the family" Can this case get any more soap opera???

OR, Caylee's DNA matched someone already known to the FBI

 

[butwhatif?]

Ok....I havent read past the first few pages, but people are saying it proves the death band and what i'm reading is the first test showed characteristics of apparent decomp.
Then the FBI tests it and concludes....
"Specimens Q22 through Q25 and debris collected from specimens Q26 through Q28 were examined for the presence of hairs exhibiting characteristics of apparent decomposition; however none were found.
None were found by the FBI.

 

[MagicRose99]

If this is the best they have and I was Jose Baez I would go to trial. KC was damned lucky she put those gasoline cans in the trunk.

IMO, it's not the best they have, only the results they've released. The BEST is being saved for trial.

 

[Theonly1]

I expect the cleaning fluid container has been analyzed and they have some sort of comparative analysis with the trunk interior.

The question will be-who scrubbed the trunk. No matter who did the cleaning, it looks bad, really bad.

I have never run anything over, but if I did, I would not have to clean the car interior, trunk or otherwise...good luck explaining that.
Pizza seems to be ruled out. What was decomposing? The spare tire?

Yeah, it is fascinating how their is stronger results on the spare tire cover than in the trunk liner. Cleaning, anyone?

 

[Blink34]

I was wondering the same thing. And the dirt from the backyard...

Interesting there was no maggots on pizza. And, if I'm understanding correctly, no pizza was found in the car. I guess Cindy SAYS she threw it out? I'm not so sure. Interesting also...early stage decomp of the type that would happen in an area lacking oxygen. Like a trunk, maybe?

I REALLY hope the maggots will tell us more...as in drugs ingested, like chloroform...I love Scientists.

IIRC, it was ONLY THE ANTHONY's, who stated there was a bag of pizza in that car.. The responding officer asked them to show him the pizza which they had thrown in their TRASH CAN at their home (evidence of cleaning, imo). It had been collected from the trash can. That being said, Why lie?

 

[okiedokietoo]

I'm saying that we don't really know the full significance of this report. We also don't know what else exists. It seems to me that we should refrain from dismissing the value of these reports.
It appears to me that there is plenty of incriminating information here.

I agree