GA - Bobbi Kristina Brown found unresponsive in bathtub.

[nrdsb4]

Yes, reports that she is breathing in the hospital doesn't tell us much.

She could be on a ventilator. She could have brain damage but enough function to breathe spontaneously. She could have very little brain damage or no brain damage but need respiratory support for some reason.

 

[katydid23]

We don't know that it is an overdose at this point but I am sure they are doing whatever they can to keep her alive and give her a chance and healing.

I know. I was just wondering if they treat overdoses with this procedure. I know they treat strokes and heart attacks and brain injuries with a medically induced coma at times. Just wondered if they ever did so in cases of an overdose. I guess so, if it resulted in a heart attack or a stroke, perhaps?

I know we do not know if it is drug related. But if someone passes out in the tub, it is often a result of an overdose. Bobbi is a young healthy girl so she should not be having a heart attack or a stroke without something provoking or triggering it, imo.

 

[Hiandmighty]

I don't believe this is going to end on a positive note.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I know. I was just wondering if they treat overdoses with this procedure. I know they treat strokes and heart attacks and brain injuries with a medically induced coma at times. Just wondered if they ever did so in cases of an overdose. I guess so, if it resulted in a heart attack or a stroke, perhaps?

I know we do not know if it is drug related. But if someone passes out in the tub, it is often a result of an overdose. Bobbi is a young healthy girl so she should not be having a heart attack or a stroke without something provoking or triggering it, imo.

She could have fallen and hit her head also.

 

[daisymae]

I have had a cardiac arrest 4 years ago, I was in ICU so don't remember anything, I was revived, my chest was black/blue/green from the CPR. It was self inflicted (suicide attempt) so I did not get much sympathy, thank god that era of my life is over.

I think from what i've read she may have brain damage? They aren't giving a lot of info.

I often see your posts on WS and enjoy them. I'm happy you weren't successful and that you're here with us.

 

[katydid23]

She could have fallen and hit her head also.

True ...

 

[daisymae]

I don't believe this is going to end on a positive note.

Sadly I don't think so either, but hopefully we are wrong.

 

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Bobbi Kristina Brown placed in medically induced coma:

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/3...r-being-found-unresponsive-in-bathtub-reports

Bobbi Kristina Brown, was reportedly placed in a medically induced coma due to swelling of the brain after being found unconscious in a bathtub in her home
The 21-year-old was rushed to the hospital, where doctors stabilized her breathing. She was in the intensive care unit at North Fulton Hospital before being induced.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Daily mail is now reporting the anniversary of her mother's death is a few days from now and Bobbi Kristina was found face down and submerged in water.

If that is true, then death would be the best thing. (See facebook prayers for preston to see what the horror of surviving a near drowning looks like).

Bobby brown is on his way (sounds like the are waiting for him).

 

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Bobbi Kristina Brown now breathing after found unresponsive in bathtub

http://wtvr.com/2015/01/31/bobbi-kristina-brown-found-unresponsive-in-bathtub/

Whitney Houston’s daughter Bobbi Kristina Brown was “still alive and breathing” in a hospital Saturday afternoon after being found face down in a bathtub full of water

Nobody knows what caused Brown’s unresponsiveness, Holland said, but police consider it a medical incident at this time. She said investigators had found nothing to indicate it was drug- or alcohol-related.

 

[atthelake]

Reasons for a medically induced coma:

... He says the goal of a medically induced coma is to reduce the work of brain cells and protect them from increased pressure inside the skull or after an event such as a stroke.

Most comas that are the result of stroke, head trauma, cardiac arrest with lack of blood flow to the brain are a much more serious problem from which there is usually a permanent problem.


It often is done as a last resort. It has certain complications and it is not uniformly effective. But it can be effective in carefully selected cases.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5139548

As an FYI, family member was put into a medically induced coma this month. Was a requirement when he was put on a ventilator. SOP for him, so perhaps.......

(my family member has improved.... off ventilator)

ETA: I see reports above are saying coma due to swollen brain.

 

[katydid23]

I wonder why her brain was swollen? I know that is a symptom of head trauma at times. And if she was face down, maybe she fell?

 

[Hiandmighty]

She apparently had taken drugs and alcohol before and sat in a tub... This isnt the first time this has happened.

I doubt this was a slip and fall giving the timing and that its the way her mother died.

All speculation, of course. I speculate its a straight up suicide.

 

[katydid23]

She apparently had taken drugs and alcohol before and sat in a tub... This isnt the first time this has happened.

I doubt this was a slip and fall giving the timing and that its the way her mother died.

All speculation, of course. I speculate its a straight up suicide.

But they supposedly said they found no indications of drugs or alcohol. And it was about 9 or 10 am when she took the bath. Maybe she was weak or ill from the day before?

 

[Hiandmighty]

I wonder why her brain was swollen? I know that is a symptom of head trauma at times. And if she was face down, maybe she fell?

It probably has to do with a near drowning, if the reports that she was found face down in a tub of water and unconscious.

 

[Hiandmighty]

But they supposedly said they found no indications of drugs or alcohol. And it was about 9 or 10 am when she took the bath. Maybe she was weak or ill from the day before?

We will probably never know the results of her toxicology screen, unless she dies and they release autopsy findings.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Effects of "near drowning" (which i cannot stress enough that death is much better than surviving a near drowning):

"When the flow of air to the lungs is obstructed, the results include hypoxia (lowered levels of oxygen in the blood) and ischemia (loss of blood flow to the extremities). These lead to immediate neurological problems, including swelling of the brain and dangerous increases in intracranial pressure.(10) About 20% of near-drowning victims sustain neurological damage; this is the number one cause when near-drowning victims cannot be revived after rescue.(11)"

http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/content/emergencies/art2120.html

"Prognosis: The Bad News
ER studies have shown that near-drowning victims are likely to have a poor outcome if:
they have spent more than 10 minutes under water(17)
it has taken more than ten minutes to give them basic life support(18)
their core body temperature has fallen below 33 degrees Celsius(19)
they have a score on the Glasgow coma scale of 5 or lower(20)
they are younger than 3
they have persistent apnea (arrested breathing) or need frequent CPR in the ER
their arterial blood pH is less than 7.1(21)
the water in which they were immersed is warmer than 10 degrees Celsius(22)"

 

[Xara]

This is such a darn shame.

 

[Ragamuffin]

I suspect we will be notified her life support was turned off after family members had a chance to say goodbye. JMO. I have no speculation to make on the circumstances in which she was found. I do, however, feel for her being born into circumstances and a family that seemed to doom her from the start. I don't know if she ever really stood a chance at a normal life, and I feel very sad for her.

I sometimes wonder just how Frances Bean Cobain made it through. She seems pretty OK, but who knows?

I'm just so sad for Bobbi Kristina.

 

[Hiandmighty]

"The greatest permanent harm in drowning accidents is to the brain, which has negligible metabolic substrate reserves to subsist upon in the absence of continuous delivery of oxygenated blood. Functional failure begins within seconds after abrupt disruption of circulation at normal body temperature [1]. The brain is sensitive to the timing, duration, and intensity of hypoxia."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3677166/

"Irreversible injury develops in the hippocampus, basal ganglia, and cerebral cortex within 4–10 min [2]. Resuscitation at this stage may manifest in memory, movement, and coordination disorders. Only a few additional minutes of hypoxia may result in persistent coma."

"immediate neurologic function after drowning rescue does not necessarily predict final outcome. In practical terms, first responders cannot reliably predict outcome at the site of rescue."