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Let's say they have concrete evidence that we don't know about....like blood on McD's clothing....will you guys be more impressed with the dogs hitting in McD's apartment?
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My apologies in advance for the extreme length.
Sorry to interrupt the very interesting K-9 sleuthing, but I thought this was really interesting. Thumbs up to Matou for bringing this up, and to GT&T for giving us some insight. I know that the law school offers a class called "Great Trials," or something to that effect. Basically, law students give a presentation and write a research paper of sorts on a trial they find particularly interesting. One of several cases that the professor suggests for those students who have trouble finding a trial of interest is the Leopold & Loeb case. I'm not sure if McD was in this class, but if he was, there is a fairly good possibility that he heard about this case.*
However, even if McD was completely unfamiliar with the case, several aspects of this case absolutely fascinated me:
- In reading the defense expert's psychiatric testimony given at trial, several things stood out. I'm making no observations as to the validity or credibility of any of these evaluation, but I do think they may offer some insight. Also, the contentiousness of the psych evals may foretell of events to come:*
My thoughts: When I read this, I was struck by the complementary nature of these two personalities. When reading about one or the other, I kept imagining that these were two sides of the same McD coin.
My thoughts: Although I think Lauren's murder was much more than the product of mere happenstance, I do think that there are similarities here. Leopold and Loeb planned this murder for years in advance as the ultimate display of their intellectual superiority. Purely based on what we know thus far, McD has displayed more than a little intellectual bravado and has been contemplating "the perfect murder" for quite some time now.*
My thoughts: While I think the obvious plan was to never get caught, I also think that McD may have chosen dismemberment for its sheer shock value. I also think that if McD were permitted access to the media's coverage of his case, he would love every single second of it (and for that reason alone, I'm grateful he isn't). I think this is his "second-best" scenario, for lack of a better phrase. I'm sure that there are more than a handful of very skilled criminal defense attorneys who would be ready and willing to take on McD's case, many of whom are extremely passionate in their opposition to capital punishment, no matter the crime.*
More at:*
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/leoploeb/leopold.htm
Agu?? As opposed to Uga? You can take the girl outta Jawwwja, but'cha cain't take the Jawwwja outta the girl!:cat: Yeah, but what's dawg spelled backwards?oke:
Winters seemed pretty laid back and methodical in the hearing. I was just wondering if that would his demeanor in a murder trial. He and Buford seemed to have a amicable relationship. It's interesting to see different prosecutors style.
Yeah, how DID LE come upon the laundry room evidence anyway?
At the hearing, Det. Patterson states that LE did not know about the hacksaw yet (hadn't been recovered), when they found the packaging in SM's apartment.
Didn't LE search SM's apartment late Thursday night?
Wouldn't that mean the hacksaw was found late late Thursday night, into Friday, which would mean the dogs did not alert in the laundry room? :waitasec:
Let's say they have concrete evidence that we don't know about....like blood on McD's clothing....will you guys be more impressed with the dogs hitting in McD's apartment?
Cadaver dogs wouldn't alert in the laundry room unless a body had been in there.Yeah, how DID LE come upon the laundry room evidence anyway?
At the hearing, Det. Patterson states that LE did not know about the hacksaw yet (hadn't been recovered), when they found the packaging in SM's apartment.
Didn't LE search SM's apartment late Thursday night?
Wouldn't that mean the hacksaw was found late late Thursday night, into Friday, which would mean the dogs did not alert in the laundry room? :waitasec:
Work gloves possibly stained with blood that were found recently at murder suspect Stephen McDaniels apartments by a private investigator belong to the complexs owner.
Complex owner: Blue gloves belong to me
http://www.macon.com/2011/09/01/1685668/complex-owner-blue-gloves-belong.html
This goes back to what I noted here:Complex owner: Blue gloves belong to me
http://www.macon.com/2011/09/01/1685668/complex-owner-blue-gloves-belong.html
Many questions, Knox. The article says LE retrieved them from the complex after the hearing. But were they still on the dryer? Or in BB's possession? And if they are really stained with blood, whose blood is it?Talk about not performing due diligence or whatever the legalese term for that is![]()
So the PI found the gloves, but did not question the owners of BH as to who they might belong to? Did he remove them? If so, wouldn't BB have to give her permission? I'm confuzzled.
What looked like blood is paint?
Talk about not performing due diligence or whatever the legalese term for that is![]()
So the PI found the gloves, but did not question the owners of BH as to who they might belong to? Did he remove them? If so, wouldn't BB have to give her permission? I'm confuzzled.
What looked like blood is paint?
Cadaver dogs wouldn't alert in the laundry room unless a body had been in there.
ETA: I guess you mean they should've alerted because the hacksaw had blood on it. That does raise a good question. I need to muddle that one around a bit.![]()
There is a chemical pseudo cadaver scent that is safe because there are no biohazard problems to consider. Other training material included blood, teeth and hair ...
http://www.ncanewfs.org/columns/pages/gazette15.html
This goes back to what I noted here:
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So, these would not have even been there during any LE searches.She said the investigator found them on top of a dryer in the laundry room where shed been doing work to prepare the complex for new tenants.