GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - #11

[dancinunderthemoon]

20 mil? Maybe 4 million.

Wasnt the Florida home valued at 3 mil? The lake home was almist 2, doubt they spent their every penny paying cash for the the two, leaving them cash poor lots of upkeep on thise two and monthly expenses

Are you new here? Do you live in putnam or green or on one of the lakes? , do you know tex Or SS?

I ALWAYS thought tex was guilty, opportunity presented itself, he knew he was losing her and that ranch

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

I think the Tex thing was an accident. So does the forensic account who testified for the prosecution at trial.

He was hired to go over the accounts not give his opinion on the case. I know the accountant personally.

Didnt seem to help the defense

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

20 mil? Maybe 4 million.

Tj.. What prompted you to join WS sept 28 this year

do you know the Dermonds or the family or live nearby the deceased or relatives?

Thanks

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

I don't think they are connected but they could be connected. I'd like to know more about this person who just murdered his house guest. 1 thing I know for sure is SS has to have someone he suspects this has been confirmed by cops I know who have experience with murder cases. My bet is on family who has been insanely quiet when they should be outraged but then again they might be busy spending their new found fortune which I estimate to be at least 20 million probably more

Statistically what are the chances 2 bizarre murders would happen across the lake from each other? It’s a tiny distance over the waster IMO.

I live in the big, bad 404 area code and never remember 2 horrendous murders happening across the street from each other in 4 years?? That’s worse that Techwood or Bowen Homes back in the day!!

I know EMTs receive anatomical training, what about firefighters??

JMO and wondering

 

[Deleted member 162919]

19 restaurants I think they had much more than 4 million

 

[Deleted member 162919]

A family that owns 19 Hardees will be worth way more than 4 million the elder Dermonds house cost them almost 1 million. By your calculations if they sold each Hardees they owned each would be valued at 250k which would be very cheap heck that would be a fire sale

 

[Deleted member 162919]

I’ve said it many times, but I still can’t understand why there’s been zero public outcry from family. I’m not accusing them, but how can 3 adult children and 9 grandchildren all be satisfied with no answers? Usually one family member gets fed up with the lack of progress and goes to the media. Why not in a case where two seemingly quiet, respectable elderly people with no known enemies are violently murdered in their own home???

I heard somewhere they didn't even attend the memorial service how strange is that? This family is hiding something and they couldn't get out of town fast enough

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

I heard somewhere they didn't even attend the memorial service how strange is that? This family is hiding something and they couldn't get out of town fast enough

Exactly, who shuns the love of their parents by the caring townsfolk, that was just rude, but yeah, get outta town quick, people can only keep up a facade for so long, that would've been difficult at the memorial svc so soon after

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Statistically what are the chances 2 bizarre murders would happen across the lake from each other? It’s a tiny distance over the waster IMO.

I live in the big, bad 404 area code and never remember 2 horrendous murders happening across the street from each other in 4 years?? That’s worse that Techwood or Bowen Homes back in the day!!

I know EMTs receive anatomical training, what about firefighters??

JMO and wondering

Im not off the watchtower yet on this guy. Ya'll .... Some reason he felt his friend must die, bludgeoned then had to go upstairs to bdrm to get his gun and go back to basement to kill him, that's premeditated.... What did haufler admit to his friend during his drunken state???

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Haufler knew he kept gun in upstairs bdrm, couldn't rememberwwhere he git it from ir getting it upstairs , claimed breakubs, admitted he lued then said he was awakened by marc dimis strangling him.... Dimos crawled his way to the COUCH leaving a bloody trail, he was able to crawl because that is when haufler was upstairs getting the gun IMHO


And i can't wait to hear if or what sec ret he had told Dimos

Sadly dead men dont talk but i dont kniw how hes getting out of this because of the lies..... I hope dimis condition doesnt get this guy off, theyll all be testifying, family and friends

Im not off the watchtower yet on this guy. Ya'll .... Some reason he felt his friend must die, bludgeoned then had to go upstairs to bdrm to get his gun and go back to basement to kill him, that's premeditated.... What did haufler admit to his friend during his drunken state???

 

[TJtennispro]

I live in Atlanta. I’ve been reading Websleuths since Summer 2017 but just started posting in September.

The Dermond case is what drew me here. My Fiancée best friends Fiancée owns a lake house at Lake Occonne. He told us about what happened on a boat ride.

I then became interested in other cases on Websleuths.

The forensic accountant for the prosecution of TM is a client of mine. I asked him what he thought and he said TM was cash poor and explained the financial piece. He was hired by the prosecution. He didn’t testify on what he thought happened.

I don’t know SS or TM. I only know the forensic accountant. If you look in the AJC you’ll find him. First and last initial are the same.

20 mil is DM wealthy I don’t know how wealthy the Dermonds were but that house doesn’t scream 20 mil net worth imo. I also know how much a Hardee’s franchise makes a year; multiple.

Didnt seem to help the defense

 

[TJtennispro]

Bowen Homes was the AT-kid or Atlanta Child Murders correct?

Statistically what are the chances 2 bizarre murders would happen across the lake from each other? It’s a tiny distance over the waster IMO.

I live in the big, bad 404 area code and never remember 2 horrendous murders happening across the street from each other in 4 years?? That’s worse that Techwood or Bowen Homes back in the day!!

I know EMTs receive anatomical training, what about firefighters??

JMO and wondering

 

[TJtennispro]

I’m 404 as well.

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

Bowen Homes was the AT-kid or Atlanta Child Murders correct?

Public housing that was torn down. Techwood was originally built for GIs after WW2.
Housing that is gone, but not forgotten.

JMO

 

[TJtennispro]

The Dermonds bought those Hardee’s in the early 1980s and they had been retired since 1999 or 2000.

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure their kids had the restaurants since they retired.

 

[Deleted member 162919]

The kids did have the Hardees after the father retired and i'm sure he sold his part to the kids at a bargain price but 250k each would be real low. Keep in mind these are elderly people who lived through the depression they won't spend the bulk of their money on a house

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I heard somewhere they didn't even attend the memorial service how strange is that? This family is hiding something and they couldn't get out of town fast enough

May I ask what media article you read that in? Tia

I find that highly doubtful.

I could have missed it that any of their children had problems with their parents or the parents with them. I haven't followed this case closely since it became a cold case.

I do read from time to time and see some are still trying to connect their children as somehow involved.

Imho there will never be a valid link of their involvements because the evidence shows there isn't any.

While Sills did not want or need the GBI he did have the FBI involved and iirc also the US Marshal's office.

It is a well known fact when there is no personal linkage between the victims and their murderer those are the very hardest cases to solve.

Many cold cases that have been solved years or even decades later showed the victim and the suspect had no familiar link whatsoever.

Often the investigators had never questioned the actual suspect and in many cases LE had never even heard the name of the suspect during the entire long ongoing investigation.

However murders carried out by family or even if they had others do it have always been the easiest ones to solve.

Imo this is why THIS case also remains unsolved. There is no link between these two victims and who murdered them.

That is why LE can't find who they are. They don't know what they can't find.

With the cases we are seeing recently in the past 5 or 6 years that have been done by complete strangers many of those cases were some of the most gruesome overkills to totally innocent victims the suspect had never met.

The only hope of this case ever being solved is if maybe they brag about what they have done and whomever hears it can't live with what they know and will finally contact LE.

The same thing happened in Isabel Celis' cold case when the girlfriend of the suspect finally contacted the FBI informing them of what she had known for sometime. Its also happened in many other cold cases.

Jmo

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

I heard somewhere they didn't even attend the memorial service how strange is that? This family is hiding something and they couldn't get out of town fast enough

I don’t think they had a memorial service. Says services would be private.
Here is Mr. D’s obituary from the funeral home.

Russell J. Dermond
Jun 6, 1925 - May 6, 2014
Funeral Services for Mr. Russell J. Dermond, age 88, will be private.

Mr. Dermond was a native of Hackensack, New Jersey, had made his home in Atlanta and retired to the Lake Oconee area. He was the son of the late Russell Charles Dermond and the late Margaret Tedesco Dermond. He loved golf, reading, walking, and enjoyed spending time with his family and friends. Mr. Dermond was a veteran of the United States Navy, serving his country in World War II and a member of Oconee Community Church.

He is survived by his wife of 68 years, Shirley Wilcox Dermond of Lake Oconee; sons Keith (Kathleen) Dermond of Jacksonville, FL, Bradley (Erin) Dermond of Santa Rosa Beach, FL; daughter Leslie (James) Patton of Ashville, NC; and 9 grandchildren.

Williams Funeral Home of Eatonton has charge of arrangements.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 162919]

the memorial service was the 1 year anniversary date from the murder

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

I read that too but dont have that link at the moment

May I ask what media article you read that in? Tia

I find that highly doubtful.

I could have missed it that any of their children had problems with their parents or the parents with them. I haven't followed this case closely since it became a cold case.

I do read from time to time and see some are still trying to connect their children as somehow involved.

Imho there will never be a valid link of their involvements because the evidence shows there isn't any.

While Sills did not want or need the GBI he did have the FBI involved and iirc also the US Marshal's office.

It is a well known fact when there is no personal linkage between the victims and their murderer those are the very hardest cases to solve.

Many cold cases that have been solved years or even decades later showed the victim and the suspect had no familiar link whatsoever.

Often the investigators had never questioned the actual suspect and in many cases LE had never even heard the name of the suspect during the entire long ongoing investigation.

However murders carried out by family or even if they had others do it have always been the easiest ones to solve.

Imo this is why THIS case also remains unsolved. There is no link between these two victims and who murdered them.

That is why LE can't find who they are. They don't know what they can't find.

With the cases we are seeing recently in the past 5 or 6 years that have been done by complete strangers many of those cases were some of the most gruesome overkills to totally innocent victims the suspect had never met.

The only hope of this case ever being solved is if maybe they brag about what they have done and whomever hears it can't live with what they know and will finally contact LE.

The same thing happened in Isabel Celis' cold case when the girlfriend of the suspect finally contacted the FBI informing them of what she had known for sometime. Its also happened in many other cold cases.

Jmo