GA - Tara Grinstead, 29, Ocilla, 22 Oct 2005 #2 *Arrests*

[Gardenista]

Podcast host: Bo Dukes was 'trolling' discussion boards before arrest


http://wgxa.tv/news/local/podcast-host-bo-dukes-was-trolling-discussion-boards-before-arrest

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Isn't the property Hudson? Owned by an uncle of BD's.
No evidence the uncle had/has any knowledge of the use of his property to conceal Tara's remains.

Plus, I'm curious, was she burned (elsewhere?) and then her ashes were moved?
A long burning fire would be noticeable of course to anyone around at the time.
Maybe only remnants of bones? Not sure about forensics on eleven plus year old ashes.

Maybe his Uncle knew they went out there sometimes to party and have bonfires and if he saw them burning even late at night he may not have thought anything about it at the time. They could have gone back and burned her in a bonfire several times.

 

[minorone]

Do we know if they did burn the body - what evidence were they destroying.

If anyone is interested, there is the podcast called "The Docket" done by solicitors, Emilie Taman (she was formerly a prosecutor) & Michael Spratt, who did 10 episodes on Making a Murdered. They do a really good comparison between the Canadian & American legal system.
They did one episode called: "THE DOCKET: MAKING A MURDERER AFTER SHOW - SPECIAL GUEST SCOTT FAIRGRIEVE". Scott Fairgrieve, is the chair of Forensic Science at Sudbury's Laurentian University, he did a forensic anthropology report about the site where the charred human remains were recovered on Steven Avery's property. It gives you an idea of what is involved in burning a body.

I am inclined to believe that many people had to know about what happened to Tara.

 

[Simply Caustic]

Podcast host: Bo Dukes was 'trolling' discussion boards before arrest


http://wgxa.tv/news/local/podcast-host-bo-dukes-was-trolling-discussion-boards-before-arrest

If anyone's interested in reading the posts that purport to be from Bo and/or his gf (maybe?) they're on the up and vanished discussion page


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[oceanblueeyes]

If anyone's interested in reading the posts that purport to be from Bo and/or his gf (maybe?) they're on the up and vanished discussion page


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I am more convinced than ever that he is NOT the one who came in and spilled the beans.

If he was trolling and posting on this website as late as yesterday he had no clue he was going to be arrested until today. And if he was working on a plea deal for lesser charges he sure wouldnt have been on there posting anything. The charges don't look like lesser charges to me. They are felonies and the charges against him is what he would be charged with for helping to cover up for RD and helping to destroy (evidence) which was her body.

I imagine someone put up a property bond to bond him out so quickly or a bondsman did. I read he was bonded out in two hours and the bond amount was a little over 16K. iirc. That may have been 10% of the actual bond amount and he may have gotten a bondsman to go his bond.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Do we know if they did burn the body - what evidence were they destroying.

If anyone is interested, there is the podcast called "The Docket" done by solicitors, Emilie Taman (she was formerly a prosecutor) & Michael Spratt, who did 10 episodes on Making a Murdered. They do a really good comparison between the Canadian & American legal system.
They did one episode called: "THE DOCKET: MAKING A MURDERER AFTER SHOW - SPECIAL GUEST SCOTT FAIRGRIEVE". Scott Fairgrieve, is the chair of Forensic Science at Sudbury's Laurentian University, he did a forensic anthropology report about the site where the charred human remains were recovered on Steven Avery's property. It gives you an idea of what is involved in burning a body.

I am inclined to believe that many people had to know about what happened to Tara.

A body can be burned to ashes only. In the Joseph Duncan case he built a regular fire in the national park when he murdered Dylan Greone after kidnapping, raping, and torturing him for 6 weeks.

When he was caught and Shasta took them back to the location all they could find were ashes of his little body and teeny tiny bone fragments.

I have seen other cases where a suspect was able to burn their victim/s up leaving ashes only. If they put her body in a burn barrel and used igniters like old tires and lighter fluid it would cause tremendous heat and the body would be reduced to small bone fragments and ashes which by now are probably gone. If they had a spaded shovel they could continue to break up the bones if they built a bonfire over her body making them tinier and tinier until they were nothing but small teeny fragments or ash. (It pains me to even write that)

Unfortunately Tara nor Dylan are the first victims to be burned to ash by the monster who murdered them. Its so common for those who live in the South to have and see bonfires going in rural areas late at night so even if someone saw a bonfire blazing late at night they wouldn't find it suspicious. IMO

 

[Lsmith528]

A body can be burned to ashes only. In the Joseph Duncan case he built a regular fire in the national park when he murdered Dylan Greone after kidnapping, raping, and torturing him for 6 weeks.

When he was caught and Shasta took them back to the location all they could find were ashes of his little body and teeny tiny bone fragments.

I have seen other cases where a suspect was able to burn their victim/s up leaving ashes only. If they put her body in a burn barrel and used igniters like old tires and lighter fluid it would cause tremendous heat and the body would be reduced to small bone fragments and ashes which by now are probably gone. If they had a spaded shovel they could continue to break up the bones if they built a bonfire over her body making them tinier and tinier until they were nothing but small teeny fragments or ash. (It pains me to even write that)

Unfortunately Tara nor Dylan are the first victims to be burned to ash by the monster who murdered them. Its so common for those who live in the South to have and see bonfires going in rural areas late at night so even if someone saw a bonfire blazing late at night they wouldn't find it suspicious. IMO

Not trying to be morbid or gross anyone out. Please family/friends/those easily grossed out on here skip this post. If not allowed please delete (still new here trying to follow rules, not offend, and contribute)



They would need extremely high temps something like 1400 degrees or without that temp they would have to keep it going or set several fires. It would take time and The smell.. Then obliterate bones. And then there are teeth. How diligent are 21 year olds? IMO if this was their first they would be sloppy, there would be something left behind.


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[HouseRules]

As horrible as this sounds, I think we should also consider the various agricultural machinery that would be at a pecan orchard as a potential means of having "destroyed" her body.

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

No body left, no matter what happened, probably dismembered her, God that hurts to say that! OR maybe she was in the house that burned, the cadaver hit there, dont know where else they took cadaver dogs, does anyone know? Did they take them out to the orchard? Dont know if they'd hit anything now tho, not sure.....who led them to the orchard? I thought I remembered hearing that RD did not........so who did? Maybe Im mistaken but apparently someone thought the house burning 2 weeks after her disspearance was suspicious ...............SMH ALL JMO

I dont know if a bonfire is hot enough, long enough, to completely get rid of a body to ashes, especially not bones but, ok, this is horrible but you know the oven only goes to a certain degree when cooking meat........burying in a shallow grave which is probalby what ocurred with what was left..............and animals are in the forest

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

As horrible as this sounds, I think we should also consider the various agricultural machinery that would be at a pecan orchard as a potential means of having "destroyed" her body.

my pecans start coming in in october I think and picked up by thanksgiving usually.........at first i wondered if the season was over but I dont think so, you might be onto something but what kind of machines pick up pecans? I knwo they use shakers, if she was buried in a 2 feet deep grave with only remains left, probalby not touched by machinery, can't dig up the dirt, I know they probalby keep the lanes sprayed with roundup or such to keep the pecan trees getting all the nutrients instead of nutrients going to the weeds and grass and any trees that might come up, so I understand it...........I doubt they put her in the pecan orchard for fear of being found..........but harvest season probalby isn't very long once they shake the trees,...........would be interesting to find out that info, they may have shook them all and harvested before the 23 or MAYBE since the time line was 23-28th..............maybe they stored her in that vacant house til the 28th when maybe pecan harvest was over!!! OMG what if OORRR she's in the pond across the street or was.......or in the pines if even still there due to animals

Do we know who told she was in the hudson pecan land/orchard/pines whatever?

 

[leep]

my pecans start coming in in october I think and picked up by thanksgiving usually.........at first i wondered if the season was over but I dont think so, you might be onto something but what kind of machines pick up pecans? I knwo they use shakers, if she was buried in a 2 feet deep grave with only remains left, probalby not touched by machinery, can't dig up the dirt, I know they probalby keep the lanes sprayed with roundup or such to keep the pecan trees getting all the nutrients instead of nutrients going to the weeds and grass and any trees that might come up, so I understand it...........I doubt they put her in the pecan orchard for fear of being found..........but harvest season probalby isn't very long once they shake the trees,...........would be interesting to find out that info, they may have shook them all and harvested before the 23 or MAYBE since the time line was 23-28th..............maybe they stored her in that vacant house til the 28th when maybe pecan harvest was over!!! OMG what if OORRR she's in the pond across the street or was.......or in the pines if even still there due to animals

Do we know who told she was in the hudson pecan land/orchard/pines whatever?

Well the evidence that was found in the pond search was rope tied around a cinder block so you might be onto something.
I think she was either left in the pond or at the snapdragon house IMO for a time until they could move her to the orchard safely/without being caught or asked what they were doing by Bo's uncle or staff.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

His bond amount seems low, but I'm not familiar with what's standard. To me, he needs to be charged as an accessory. He may not have murdered her, but sounds like he was very involved afterward.

It's obvious he has connections and money that RD doesn't.

 

[minorone]

Are there any laws in Georgia that would prevent criminals or family members from directly or indirectly profiting from the crime by being an informant. If so, would it include family members.

Have seen some speculation that the informant would collect the reward in this case.

 

[Niner]

Hey cuffem! :wave:

Niner,I do this only because I am not good with cut and pasting articles/quotes.

Okay then, I'll teach you!

I use my "Notepad" to copy the url/http stuff to the article website you want to post about, and then I go back to the article and highlight what I want to quote, copy that and paste it to my "Notepad". Then copy the whole thing from "Notepad" to the Reply box here at WS.

It works for me!

Wouldn't be false if they tell you where a body is located

I would not think so.... :thinking:

 

[LadyL]

yes, in the Tim Bosma case in Ontario, Canada the murderer used a wood chipper to dispose of victim(s)

As horrible as this sounds, I think we should also consider the various agricultural machinery that would be at a pecan orchard as a potential means of having "destroyed" her body.

 

[alexwood]

media PLEASE stop[/B] referring to Connie as Tara's mother? I know it's most likely not a huge deal but it bothers me every time they get it wrong. *shrug*

I don't think it's petty at all. I got the impression Tara was close to her mother and it's heartbreaking to me that she died not knowing what happened to her daughter.

ITA. No, it is absolutely not petty to demand that the media get it right!

In this case, Tara's parentage should be a well-established fact. I mean, they've only had over 10 years to figure it out. That is irresponsible and media is doing a half-arsed job. Spreading half-truths with their half-baked "cyber-reporting." They fact-check, when they do it at all, against other inaccurate media articles. Then they regurgitate it to us . . . and that's what we have to work with! (IMO -- MOO!)

End of Rant:tantrum:

:chillout:

 

[alexwood]

^^^ HOLY GUACAMOLE! Do you think his mother feared him and finally figured out what he had done only to go to police? Or his girlfriend?

Can't wait for more info.

Interesting his mother wanted her son back in police custody back in 2010 after his getting released on bond for the DUI. :scared:

Very well said, DaisyChain!:goodpost:

 

[alexwood]

Hey cuffem! :wave:



Okay then, I'll teach you!

I use my "Notepad" to copy the url/http stuff to the article website you want to post about, and then I go back to the article and highlight what I want to quote, copy that and paste it to my "Notepad". Then copy the whole thing from "Notepad" to the Reply box here at WS.

It works for me!




I would not think so.... :thinking:

Gee, Niner . . . even I can understand those directions! Thank you very much!
You should be writing manuals for "The Dummie's" series. (cuffem, no offense intended!)

 

[JaimeSommers]

Second arrest in the case of Tara Grinstead.

Bo Dukes, nephew of the owner of the pecan farm arrested for tampering with evidence.

No relation to Ryan Dukes but both went to the same high school.

BEN HILL COUNTY, Ga. – Another suspect has been arrested in Tara Grinstead’s disappearance, just one week after suspected killer, Ryan Alexander Duke, was charged in the beauty queen’s murder. Both were students at the high school where she was a teacher.
Bo Dukes, 32, was arrested and charged with concealing death, hindering apprehension or punishment of a criminal, tampering with evidence according to the Ben Hill Sheriff’s Department.

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/s...-death-in-missing-beauty-queen-case/419531643

BBM ... Getting caught up. Tricia, you may want to correct the spelling of Ryan's last name. There's no "s" on the end.

Bo = Dukes
Ryan = Duke

Hope this helps.

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[terpstra1]

yes, in the Tim Bosma case in Ontario, Canada the murderer used a wood chipper to dispose of victim(s)

Also used in a case of two cheerleaders in Dryden NY.

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