Found Deceased GA - Timothy Cunningham, 35, Chamblee, 12 Feb 2018 #2

[arta]

So far 3 places to go: Whetstone Creek Trail, Standing Peachtree Park and Spinks Collins Park. Just posting in case I have a memory lapse and to help organize my time tomorrow. For those wondering...3 places to search for Tim thoughtfully contributed by fellow Websleuthers. Thanks everyone.

 

[LAhiker]

So far 3 places to go: Whetstone Creek Trail, Standing Peachtree Park and Spinks Collins Park. Just posting in case I have a memory lapse and to help organize my time tomorrow. For those wondering...3 places to search for Tim thoughtfully contributed by fellow Websleuthers. Thanks everyone.

Thank YOU for searching! You are truly going above and beyond. Be safe and let us know how it goes.

 

[SolR1]

I'm hoping for an LE update soon.

There were a couple of issues left untied from the presser. One being whether they ever acquired the video footage of Tim leaving the CDC. Also, were they able to locate the work phone. I also remember them mentioning there were several crimestopper tips they needed to follow up on. Are there updates from those? It would also be helpful to gain clarity in the CDC disagreement. Was it just semantics?

There are topics to discuss. The silence is weird.

 

[HelloThere]

You are allowed to speak in the same manner as any other member. For example here's an opinion someone recently posted:

Right, I just mean I cannot really speak about him as an individual (since I know him) because I am not verified. I can only speculate and reiterate what has been said by LE and the media.

 

[Yvettea]

Right, I just mean I cannot really speak about him as an individual (since I know him) because I am not verified. I can only speculate and reiterate what has been said by LE and the media.

Gotcha

 

[JazzTune]

A VI for: CDC, family, friends, hospital admitting, psych admitting, whether voluntary, altered menal state from ER therefore involuntary? We have HelloThere and Jazz Tune. Not clear as to which VI you'd prefer, but I'm old and frequently don't quite understand, English not first language. ;/

Oh, thanks Tony1902 but I don't fit any of this. I don't mean to sound like a know-it-all about anything. I'm just relating my experience only. Another psych nurse could have different thoughts about hers or his.

As for VI, as already noted, that is for someone specific to this case. I'm not, but really appreciate all the locals who have jumped in and helped us out with their knowledge...

 

[JazzTune]

As I believe Jazz has mentioned, voluntary check in for rehab or a sub-acute unit is not just walking in. Referrals, ID, insurance cards, etc. are vital. Which is why they wouldn't be in his home but in the locked psych vault upon admittance once verified by attending and on call psych nurse.

Oh Tony1902, I'm so sorry if my posts have not been clear. When I spoke of long-term residential treatment involving a lot of red tape for admission, I wasn't meaning rehab. I should have been more clear.

I was referring to those whose mental illnesses are so severe they cannot live independently. We did not have a rehab program as such, ( just a five day detox ) so I cannot speak for that.

I don't believe though that rehab would require nearly the wait that a long-term treatment program would. The need for rehab would be more urgent, I would think.

But I do agree about the seeming difficulty to get admitted to a rehab unit with all of his insurance and ID cards at home. Perhaps not impossible if he was already entered into his health insurer system, but have no idea if that would be feasible...


JMO

 

[JazzTune]

Similarly, TC could have checked himself into rehab, which would explain why he allegedly told the neighbor to remove his phone number. His family may not be accepting or comfortable with mental health/drug abuse issues, but given that TC was in the health sciences, I think he would have had access to appropriate resources on his own and may have known he needed to be off the grid for a while (with or without the help of his family).

You certainly have a valid point here. But even if Timothy wanted to go to rehab, I truly cannot see him putting his family through this anguish.

If he was not in an acute life-threatening, mental health crisis and was just seeking treatment for chemical dependency, he should be far enough along in his treatment now to be thinking much more clearly.

Would he really not let his family know he was alright?


JMO

 

[Tjk2201]

Is anyone aware of the coyote population in this area?

 

[LAhiker]

I had a few thoughts about reports that TC may have been seen jogging on February 12th. It's mentioned in the timeline video in following link.
http://www.11alive.com/mobile/artic...imothy-cunningham-grows-to-15000/85-526307239
(I forget when the possible sighting occurred -- think it was late afternoon or early evening.)

I assume the police asked about a bunch of questions to try to substantiate this:
Of the person who said they saw the jogger -- How sure are they that it was TC? How well do they know him? How sure are they that they saw him on Monday, Feb 12th rather than some other day? What was the jogger wearing? Where was he and what direction was he going?

Of TC's friends and relatives -- Does he jog regularly? Where does he go? What does he wear when jogging? What shoes does he wear? Does he jog even when he isn't feeling so well? Does he usually take the dog when jogging? (My guess is that even if he'd done so in the past, the dog is getting old, so not taking him not be that strange.)

(Regarding whether TC jogs when not feeling well, while TC's calling in sick might make it less likely that he went jogging, many runners and hikers -- I'm in the latter group -- will go out and exercise as long as we don't feel too bad.)

LE has said that anything that one can think of that belongs to TC was found in the house. But he had to be wearing something when he disappeared. If he typically went jogging in sweatpants and a sweatshirt, or similar clothes, and had more than one pair, it might be hard to tell if one set was missing. It might be easier to tell if running shoes were missing, but he might have more than one pair.

While his family's comments about their interactions with him before he disappeared make me think he may have been suicidal, if it really was him jogging, that might put a different spin on things. Jogging seems a reasonable and healthy way to deal with stress and clear one's head. Speculatively, he might've gone home, taken a nap, and then pulled himself together and gone for a run.

As several people here have mentioned, if TC went jogging, that might explain why the house was left locked, why provisions weren't made for the dog, etc.: He thought he was coming back. He might've taken a spare key with him.

If TC did go for a run, what happened? He could've met with foul play -- a random crime. Or he could've had a medical problem -- he was under stress and a bit overweight. If he'd had a medical problem, one would think he would've been found by now, but who knows. If he met with foul play, an assailant would've had reason to remove the body.

There's an intersection between "TC was suicidal" and "TC went for a jog and met with foul play or had a medical event." If TC was under great stress, he might not have taken safety into consideration and might've run somewhere he might not normally have gone or might not have paid enough attention to his surroundings.

Of course, we don't know for sure he went for a jog. But if he did, it might change the case considerably.

 

[daisydaisy]

Is anyone aware of the coyote population in this area?

I would occasionally see reports of them crossing over Marietta Blvd. from the Moore’s Mill area. It’s a huge intersection, but I guess they’re not easily deterred!

 

[daisydaisy]

Great points, LAhiker! That one news story is the only place I’ve seen mention of the sighting of Tim jogging. I feel like it’s super important if true.

The house being locked is one thing that makes me go “hmmm,” and you hit on that. Whenever I would run out to check our mail, I’d still lock the front door with a spare key, but I never took anything else with me. If I’d ever met with an ill fate during a mail run, my house and possessions would’ve been left exactly like Tim’s. Wonder if he usually jogged phone and ID-free.

As usual, though, we can’t know what was going on inside his mind. Even if he left and KNEW he wasn’t coming back, maybe he locked up to protect his possessions and Bo.

 

[mrstfs]

I had a few thoughts about reports that TC may have been seen jogging on February 12th. It's mentioned in the timeline video in following link.
http://www.11alive.com/mobile/artic...imothy-cunningham-grows-to-15000/85-526307239
(I forget when the possible sighting occurred -- think it was late afternoon or early evening.)

I assume the police asked about a bunch of questions to try to substantiate this:
Of the person who said they saw the jogger -- How sure are they that it was TC? How well do they know him? How sure are they that they saw him on Monday, Feb 12th rather than some other day? What was the jogger wearing? Where was he and what direction was he going?

Of TC's friends and relatives -- Does he jog regularly? Where does he go? What does he wear when jogging? What shoes does he wear? Does he jog even when he isn't feeling so well? Does he usually take the dog when jogging? (My guess is that even if he'd done so in the past, the dog is getting old, so not taking him not be that strange.)

(Regarding whether TC jogs when not feeling well, while TC's calling in sick might make it less likely that he went jogging, many runners and hikers -- I'm in the latter group -- will go out and exercise as long as we don't feel too bad.)

LE has said that anything that one can think of that belongs to TC was found in the house. But he had to be wearing something when he disappeared. If he typically went jogging in sweatpants and a sweatshirt, or similar clothes, and had more than one pair, it might be hard to tell if one set was missing. It might be easier to tell if running shoes were missing, but he might have more than one pair.

While his family's comments about their interactions with him before he disappeared make me think he may have been suicidal, if it really was him jogging, that might put a different spin on things. Jogging seems a reasonable and healthy way to deal with stress and clear one's head. Speculatively, he might've gone home, taken a nap, and then pulled himself together and gone for a run.

As several people here have mentioned, if TC went jogging, that might explain why the house was left locked, why provisions weren't made for the dog, etc.: He thought he was coming back. He might've taken a spare key with him.

If TC did go for a run, what happened? He could've met with foul play -- a random crime. Or he could've had a medical problem -- he was under stress and a bit overweight. If he'd had a medical problem, one would think he would've been found by now, but who knows. If he met with foul play, an assailant would've had reason to remove the body.

There's an intersection between "TC was suicidal" and "TC went for a jog and met with foul play or had a medical event." If TC was under great stress, he might not have taken safety into consideration and might've run somewhere he might not normally have gone or might not have paid enough attention to his surroundings.

Of course, we don't know for sure he went for a jog. But if he did, it might change the case considerably.

To your point, when my husband jogs, he doesn’t even bring a spare key, he goes through the garage with our code.

Could Tim get into his house with a garage code?

Is there anything on NextDoor about him jogging?


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[daisydaisy]

To your point, when my husband jogs, he doesn’t even bring a spare key, he goes through the garage with our code.

Could Tim get into his house with a garage code?

Is there anything on NextDoor about him jogging?


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Also a great point! I wonder if he has a keypad.

Honestly, I haven’t seen much activity on the NextDoor posts in awhile.

 

[Findum]

Could someone please link the interview with the next door neighbors' husband or tell me where I can find it? Thanks so much!
Also, the way the inside door from garage was left...was it locked? That would be a huge clue...

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

Also a great point! I wonder if he has a keypad.

Honestly, I haven’t seen much activity on the NextDoor posts in awhile.

I wonder if "arta" can see if she sees one when she is innocently, unobtrusively, professionally passing through Timothy's neighborhood. :wink:

 

[mrstfs]

Could someone please link the interview with the next door neighbors' husband or tell me where I can find it? Thanks so much!
Also, the way the inside door from garage was left...was it locked? That would be a huge clue...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...r-to-delete-phone-number-reports-say.amp.html


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[arta]

Garage on his home a drive under from rear. You cannot see it from the street. His home shares a driveway with the neighbor to the left (if facing from the street) and thus I would deem it not a good idea to check this out. I will say though most people today have keypad accessible garage doors. Definitely the norm. Have def left my home to check mail, take a walk or walk my dog with no key or phone. Just simply left and as the door from garage to house was unlocked, felt comfortable. You cannot see into the garage in my house from front or rear so there is no way someone can tell if our cars are in garage or not.

 

[arta]

Also not going out to search today. Pouring down rain and thunder. Tomorrow looks much more favorable weather-wise.

 

[JazzTune]

I had a few thoughts about reports that TC may have been seen jogging on February 12th. It's mentioned in the timeline video in following link.
http://www.11alive.com/mobile/artic...imothy-cunningham-grows-to-15000/85-526307239
(I forget when the possible sighting occurred -- think it was late afternoon or early evening.)

I assume the police asked about a bunch of questions to try to substantiate this:
Of the person who said they saw the jogger -- How sure are they that it was TC? How well do they know him? How sure are they that they saw him on Monday, Feb 12th rather than some other day? What was the jogger wearing? Where was he and what direction was he going?

Of TC's friends and relatives -- Does he jog regularly? Where does he go? What does he wear when jogging? What shoes does he wear? Does he jog even when he isn't feeling so well? Does he usually take the dog when jogging? (My guess is that even if he'd done so in the past, the dog is getting old, so not taking him not be that strange.)

(Regarding whether TC jogs when not feeling well, while TC's calling in sick might make it less likely that he went jogging, many runners and hikers -- I'm in the latter group -- will go out and exercise as long as we don't feel too bad.)

LE has said that anything that one can think of that belongs to TC was found in the house. But he had to be wearing something when he disappeared. If he typically went jogging in sweatpants and a sweatshirt, or similar clothes, and had more than one pair, it might be hard to tell if one set was missing. It might be easier to tell if running shoes were missing, but he might have more than one pair.

While his family's comments about their interactions with him before he disappeared make me think he may have been suicidal, if it really was him jogging, that might put a different spin on things. Jogging seems a reasonable and healthy way to deal with stress and clear one's head. Speculatively, he might've gone home, taken a nap, and then pulled himself together and gone for a run.

As several people here have mentioned, if TC went jogging, that might explain why the house was left locked, why provisions weren't made for the dog, etc.: He thought he was coming back. He might've taken a spare key with him.

If TC did go for a run, what happened? He could've met with foul play -- a random crime. Or he could've had a medical problem -- he was under stress and a bit overweight. If he'd had a medical problem, one would think he would've been found by now, but who knows. If he met with foul play, an assailant would've had reason to remove the body.

There's an intersection between "TC was suicidal" and "TC went for a jog and met with foul play or had a medical event." If TC was under great stress, he might not have taken safety into consideration and might've run somewhere he might not normally have gone or might not have paid enough attention to his surroundings.

Of course, we don't know for sure he went for a jog. But if he did, it might change the case considerably.

Very good points! Excellent post. If Timothy truly was seen jogging then yes, that would offer genuine hope that he was not in a mental health crisis. Jogging could have been a healthy and effective way for him to deal with stress.

It would also much more easily explain his personal items found at home. I pray this was a credible sighting.

Though we don't know where he is now, maybe someone is holding him against his will somewhere?

Thank you! It does give me fresh hope when I was running low on it...


JMO