GA - Apalachee High School shooting, 4 dead, 9 injured, Winder, Barrow County - 04 September 2024 *father and son arrested*

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1834675930079363392

Teacher killed in Apalachee school shooting to be laid to rest

The community will come together to say goodbye to a teacher killed in the Apalachee school shooting.

www.atlantanewsfirst.com

Sep. 13, 2024 at 9:18 AM EDT|Updated: 7 hours ago

 

[arielilane]

ATLANTA, Ga. (Atlanta News First) - An assault-style rifle wasn’t the only weapon the suspected Apalachee High School shooter allegedly brought to class, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI).

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Apalachee High suspected shooter Colt Gray also had a knife, GBI says

An assault-style rifle wasn’t the only weapon the suspected Apalachee High School shooter allegedly brought to class, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

www.atlantanewsfirst.com

Sep. 13, 2024 at 9:55 AM EDT|Updated: 1 hour ago

 

[arielilane]

There are concerns over his (ColG) safety.


ATLANTA, Ga. (Atlanta News First) - The father of the suspected Apalachee High School shooter, also facing charges himself, filed a motion to be separated from the other inmates in Barrow County custody.

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Father of suspected Apalachee High shooter files motion to be separated from other Barrow County inmates

Colin Gray’s attorneys, Jimmy Berry and Brian Hobbs, filed the motion in the Superior Court of Barrow County, citing concerns for Gray’s safety.

www.atlantanewsfirst.com

Sep. 11, 2024 at 7:57 PM EDT

 

[sunspun]

This is why I keep bringing it up. My opinion, some things don't quite add up yet, in my mind, on the issue of the rifle, what exactly the kind of rifle it was, how it is being called an ar15 style rifle yet doesn't break down, and then, how it was brought in to the school in a backpack, with what I'd assume (Opinion only) had the barrel sticking out of the backpack, and possibly wrapped with something? or disguised in some fashion?

Couple the above with the aforeposted photo of the rifle, though grainy/fuzzy, it appears to not be a complete rifle, and to be honest, I'm not sure what it really is in that picture.

I would think school personnel would benefit from being aware of just how this rifle was able to be carried in to a classroom, in a backpack, with the barrel sticking out of the pack, possibly disguised in some manner. I think it's extremely critical, and important information, for safety's sake, and in an attempt to be aware, so as to possibly prevent further trouble down the road.

It's not much different than making faculty/staff aware that cocaine can be brought in to school in a chapstick or lipstick container, or weed stuffed in to a pen, or a vape that looks like a cell phone, etc. etc.

Lastly, the entire idea of a rifle being brought in to a school building likely wouldn't be a concern if proper preventative measures were in place at the door, AND, other preventative measures were strictly adhered to by faculty/staff.

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Sometimes I think that looks like a skateboard in the pic! But it really is too blurry to tell exactly. Could it be multiple items lying on the floor together, one of which may or may not be the gun? There's something on the near side that looks like a tube or cylinder-shaped item, with the opening facing the camera. Maybe a cardboard tube or similar. This may have been what he put over the part of the gun that stuck out of the backpack, to hide it. I think something like that wouldn't have drawn any attention.

 

[vls12345]

Return to school plan released for Apalachee High School families following mass shooting

The school district said the plan will include relocating some classrooms.

www.wsbtv.com

Apalachee High School will begin the process of reopening the school after a student went in with a rifle and opened fire, killing two teachers and two students.

The district confirmed to Channel 2′s Courtney Francisco that the school will begin to reopen, starting Sept. 23.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Yes, the will set a bond, and I expect him to bond out.

Even with murder charges? I don't know if he's safer in or out of jail given all of the threats he's received.

 

[Sundog]

thank you it couldn't have been more obvious staring me in the face

I had to go back and read the article a couple of times before I could find it again and wondered where I had seen it the first time, lol. So not that easy to see for me, either.

 

[arielilane]

ATLANTA — The shooting at Apalachee High School forever changed CHEE nation.

On September 4, authorities said 14-year-old Colt Gray asked to be excused from his class, walked to a bathroom where he would later reemerge from and carry out one of the deadliest school shootings to ever happen in Georgia.

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Name mix-up at Apalachee High adds to shooting investigation challenges, sheriff says

Sheriff Smith is still searching for answers to why 14-year-old Colt Gray walked into his high school on the morning of Sept. 4 and opened fire

www.11alive.com

9.14.2024

 

[arielilane]

There is so much confusion, one can never be prepared. jmo

Student with similar name to Colt Gray was questioned minutes before deadly Apalachee shooting

Sheriff Smith is still searching for answers to why 14-year-old Colt Gray walked into his high school on the morning of Sept. 4 and opened fire

www.13wmaz.com

Updated: 9:55 AM EDT September 14, 2024

 

[Sundog]

ATLANTA — The shooting at Apalachee High School forever changed CHEE nation.

On September 4, authorities said 14-year-old Colt Gray asked to be excused from his class, walked to a bathroom where he would later reemerge from and carry out one of the deadliest school shootings to ever happen in Georgia.

...

Name mix-up at Apalachee High adds to shooting investigation challenges, sheriff says

Sheriff Smith is still searching for answers to why 14-year-old Colt Gray walked into his high school on the morning of Sept. 4 and opened fire

www.11alive.com

9.14.2024

Some new information from this article -

Marcee Gray has said that her son allegedly texted her and his dad that Wednesday morning, “I’m sorry” and “You’re not to blame for this.”

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Hours after the shooting, 11Alive was outside Colt Gray’s home, where he lived with his dad, Colin Gray and his two younger siblings.

 

[Inthedetails]

There is so much confusion, one can never be prepared. jmo

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It reminds me of baby-proofing your home when you have a toddler. You can make all the precautions you can think of, but you still need to keep a close eye on the child. You can't stop giving the attention to people and hope socket covers on the outlets are enough.

Probably an inadequate analogy and easy to find fault with it, but all the precautions and procedures don't necessarily mean they provide 100% protection - and we STILL need to pay attention and put effort into watching out for each other's mental states as both prevention and recovery.

jmo

 

[vls12345]

Metro Atlanta families react to ongoing threats, hoaxes after Apalachee school shooting

There have been dozens of people arrested for making threats towards schools since the Apalachee school shooting.

www.wsbtv.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The motion to withdraw is part of the judicial process when a defendant obtains private attorneys.

In the court document, Ragas said Gray’s private attorney filed a motion to take over the case on Wednesday, Sept. 11.

Court records now list Jimmy Berry and Brian Hobbs representing the older Gray.

Alfonso Kraft Jr. is listed as the teenager’s attorney, according to the Barrow County Clerk’s Office

Apalachee school shooting: Colin Gray’s attorney withdraws from case

Arnold Ragas was appointed to represent Colin Gray after his arrest.

www.wsbtv.com

 

[iamshadow21]

The motion to withdraw is part of the judicial process when a defendant obtains private attorneys.

In the court document, Ragas said Gray’s private attorney filed a motion to take over the case on Wednesday, Sept. 11.

Court records now list Jimmy Berry and Brian Hobbs representing the older Gray.

Alfonso Kraft Jr. is listed as the teenager’s attorney, according to the Barrow County Clerk’s Office

Apalachee school shooting: Colin Gray’s attorney withdraws from case

Arnold Ragas was appointed to represent Colin Gray after his arrest.

www.wsbtv.com

Where on earth is the money for private representation coming from? Weren't they destitute not that long ago?

MOO

 

[Doghairrules]

Wouldn't the teacher and any classroom aides having one be enough in most emergencies? The idea being to get help from outside the classroom rather than every individual student contacting their parents for a final phone call? When you consider all the downsides to teaching in a room full of students with phones.

Well not if they’re the first ones shot. Think about uvalde - the only way they knew that there were still some students alive in that one classroom was because one of the students kept calling them asking if someone was coming to help. And if we’re not gonna do anything to protect kids at school the least we can do is give them a cell phone so that they can tell their parents they love them one more time before they die.

 

[cujenn81]

I’m sure we could install metal detectors, thought even just doing that would be a huge undertaking (finances aside, just the sheer scope of the project given the number of schools). But what then? Someone has to man these metal detectors. Who does what when the metal detector goes off? Where do these people come from? Forget about who pays for all of this. Where do the actual people come from?

I imagine it’s fairly costly initially, but the process is actually surprisingly easy to implement.

Here’s a video about the system set up in the school district where I work. It’s the second largest in the state (with 56 campuses) and every school now has a weapons detection scanner.

In the video, two district employees are overseeing the morning scanning process… but each of our schools also has at least one armed security guard (some of the larger high schools have more than one) who is employed by an outside security firm. Nevertheless, school employees are assigned to “scanning duty” on a rotational basis similar to “recess duty”.

 

[Simply Southern]

I imagine it’s fairly costly initially, but the process is actually surprisingly easy to implement.

Here’s a video about the system set up in the school district where I work. It’s the second largest in the state (with 56 campuses) and every school now has a weapons detection scanner.

In the video, two district employees are overseeing the morning scanning process… but each of our schools also has at least one armed security guard (some of the larger high schools have more than one) who is employed by an outside security firm. Nevertheless, school employees are assigned to “scanning duty” on a rotational basis similar to “recess duty”.

Our schools have the exact system. We have two at each High Schools and one at all middle and elementary.

Did a double take in the logo, ours is very similar.

(We've had two threats in 2 days, 2 arrest)

 

[Simply Southern]

That's the first thing I thought of when I read about the cell phone bans. I wouldn't want my child to be in this kind of situation without a phone. It's not a weapon, but it's better than nothing.

A ringing phone can alert to a students location. Moo

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Our schools have the exact system. We have two at each High Schools and one at all middle and elementary.

Did a double take in the logo, ours is very similar.

(We've had two threats in 2 days, 2 arrest)

This is great to read about and see systems that work well.

 

[nightowl1975]

I imagine it’s fairly costly initially, but the process is actually surprisingly easy to implement.

Here’s a video about the system set up in the school district where I work. It’s the second largest in the state (with 56 campuses) and every school now has a weapons detection scanner.

In the video, two district employees are overseeing the morning scanning process… but each of our schools also has at least one armed security guard (some of the larger high schools have more than one) who is employed by an outside security firm. Nevertheless, school employees are assigned to “scanning duty” on a rotational basis similar to “recess duty”.

So two random teachers/school employees are offered up on the daily to do what, exactly, if a student comes through this detection system with a gun? Ask them to hand it over? Attempt to take it from them? Teachers should not be expected to handle an armed student for goodness sakes, unless of course the teachers are also allowed to be armed if they prefer.