MassGuy
The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed
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IMO....he deserves it.
It might make a difference for a few parents. Some of them won’t read the follow ups to these stories and might not realize that they could be charged if their kid does something like this. It might make some rethink what they give their kids as a present. The Crumleys and Mr. Gray gave their sons a weapon for Christmas. This is different than a kid breaking into a secured gunbox or safe. If they know their kid is troubled enough, they should get rid of the temptation to break into a secure box or safe, by removing any guns from the home.My question is - are parents around the country getting the message? Are they getting rid of guns in the home if they have a young family member who is troubled?
My guess: nope.
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This guy didn’t care about what was going on in his own house, so I can’t imagine he pays attention to the news.It might make a difference for a few parents. Some of them won’t read the follow ups to these stories and might not realize that they could be charged if their kid does something like this. It might make some rethink what they give their kids as a present. The Crumleys and Mr. Gray gave their sons a weapon for Christmas. This is different than a kid breaking into a secured gunbox or safe. If they know their kid is troubled enough, they should get rid of the temptation to break into a secure box or safe, by removing any guns from the home.
Unfortunately that's true. Sadly.This guy didn’t care about what was going on in his own house, so I can’t imagine he pays attention to the news.
the only way to provide for safety in a public school is to prevent the weapon from entering the building. I simply cannot, for the life of me, understand why courthouses, government buildings, airports, and a few other entities have secured their buildings, but public schools refuse to do so. Baffling.
I've heard assorted things, but it looks like his parents were separated, and he had just moved to the area with his father, who has himself been arrested.Did the shooter live in a home with both his mother and father?
And those glasses look like they're jail-issued.Curious that this is the most recent photo of him, from two years ago.
And those glasses look like they're jail-issued.
I grew up with a girl named Kelly Green, which is definitely a known name for a color."Colt gray" is a shade of gray.sometimes used in gun marleting, on top of "Colt" being a young intact horse.
I'm guessing that the "parents" coached him to act this way!With the precedent of Michigan, I would think that a quick arrest will stem the outrage of the community/nation/world relating to family postings and comments. This man spoke on the record to LE and clearly was unable to ensure that his weapons were secured and his son cared for. IMHO, he should also be charged for child neglect for not getting his son help.
They can also bump up the charges if new evidence emerges.2 counts of second degree murder for the two children that were killed (automatic second degree murder when it involves cruelty to children).
4 counts of involuntary manslaughter for all four deaths (can include lesser charges).
8 counts of cruelty to children for the two children killed and presumably six of the seven children that were injured (only thing I can think of here is that the seventh was injured in the chaos and not directly by the shooter, so they aren’t confident charging that one).
If some of the reports listed in this thread are true, he took the bus to school that day instead of his father driving him. That may explain how the Dad didn’t see him trying to take it out of the house if, say, the Dad had already gone to work.Next, we need some answers as to how this alleged killer got the gun out of his home, how he got to the school AND how he got that gun into the school.
They’ve speculated that the Trump shooter broke his rifle down and carried in his backpack. It would have been a very tight fit, but it makes the most sense to me here.If some of the reports listed in this thread are true, he took the bus to school that day instead of his father driving him. That may explain how the Dad didn’t see him trying to take it out of the house if, say, the Dad had already gone to work.
As for getting it into the school… if the school didn’t have any metal detectors (I have no idea if they did or not), and he could find a way to fit it into a backpack (just as other shooters have done that in the past), it sadly may have been not as difficult as we’d like to think or imagine.
The other issue is the emotional maturity of those who are buying the gun and giving an emotionally immature person who has been asking for help (according to family members) a gun. You have a child accused of making threats who is also asking family for help regarding his mental health AND an adult who after visited by LE 6 months prior about threats buys said child an AR-15, the preferred/favored gun of school shooters.
This is a poster situation for a tragedy to happen.
MOO A disassembled AR15 fits in a backpack.If some of the reports listed in this thread are true, he took the bus to school that day instead of his father driving him. That may explain how the Dad didn’t see him trying to take it out of the house if, say, the Dad had already gone to work.
As for getting it into the school… if the school didn’t have any metal detectors (I have no idea if they did or not), and he could find a way to fit it into a backpack (just as other shooters have done that in the past), it sadly may have been not as difficult as we’d like to think or imagine.