General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[Lanie]

as do i sista ! BBM

i just wanted to add to your post, Ron's concern disappeared before he left work that night, because he claims to have worked a lil over time, on that barge that came in. IMO, if i weren't able to get a hold of the person in charge of my home and children, i wouldn't be staying to work overtime either. JMO.... i wouldn't even care if it costs me my job, i would have told my boss, that i need to go check on my kids, and if i wasn't permitted to leave, i would leave anyways, because something just isn't right. if i was permitted to leave, i would have and once i saw all was well and good, i would have returned to work, and probably worked the overtime to make sure i made my hours that week. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

IMO, seeing as how Misty had gone off for the weekend which allegedly involved drugs and another man, all was not well in the Cummings/Croslin relationship at this point. IMO, Ron's concern was not over what Misty was doing to his children, I think it was over their reconciliation, and IMO, would explain why he took his sweet time getting home, and why he didn't answer the phone when Misty finally called him back.

IMO, I just don't see a five minute kiss and make up session when the stories out there are Ron beat up Misty when she told him she was pregnant and then she took off and was intimate with another guy. IMO, I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume they might have 'gotten back together', but there were still hard feelings to be addressed on both sides.

All the above, MOO.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

My concerns with this are, as follows:

1. This assumes that Misty did babysit the kids that night and that something didn't happen on TN's or GmaS' watch. Ron picked up HaLeigh from the bus and there were statements added that GmaS dropped by that evening. Was Misty that last one to see HaLeigh alive? We don't know for sure.

2. It assumes that Misty knew that Ron was working overtime and would be leaving work at 3 am. From what we know there was a big argument at 8:30 pm and no communications in either direction afterwards. Misty even tried Ron's cell as he arrived, allegedly.

3. If Ron was not involved he knew very quickly that HaLeigh was dead and cooperated in the cover-up so, it was something that makes both Ron and TN want to shield Misty, if she is the perp with Tommy.

IMO it isn't as simple as just Misty and Tommy else we would have seen charges, LE has enough and if they are the perps they are not going to self-incriminate further to add any details.

I'm not following you. Yes their grandmother came there to drop off the clothes (I believe one of NGs producers say the folded clean clothing was still laying on the table) and Misty was there feeding the children. Ms. Sikes left so why wouldn't Misty be the last one to see Haleigh? :waitasec: MISTY said she put Haleigh to bed around 8:00.

Art Harris said that some of the phone calls consisted of text messages so if Ron was working over I think he texted that message to Misty. I do think Misty was reading the texts even though she wasnt picking up the phone.

With Misty calling Ron shortly before he arrived shows me she did know he was working overtime.

Imo, yes it can be as simple as Tommy and Misty doing this. Police knew for three years who killed Jason Young's wife but it took them three years to bring an arrest. Over 30% of cases go unsolved and it can be due to not having enough evidence to bring the suspect to trial.

The DA said Tommy is a suspect and he has never said that Ron was involved much less labeled him a suspect. Tommy has no allegiance to RCs. Imo, Tommy couldn't stand Ron Cummings but in his dysfunctional way he did and does love his sister.

IMO

 

[azwriter]

Ok what about this scenerio

MC agrees to watch the kids only if Ron will let her because he was mad about her party weekend and she assumed he wouldn't want her there.

Ron asks his mother to do it cause he doesn't want MC there and she says she can't and offers to pay mc to do it.

RC relents, keeps giving MC a hard time about things and tells her to give Haleigh a pill to sleep so they can all go to bed and rest up.

Mc sticks it out, AC guy comes over, Tommy comes over to smoke a joint, she continues to fight with RC on the phone.

At 8:30 RC and MC fighting on the phone and MC has had enough, tells him to deal with his own kids and household and leaves. She goes to her parents place cause they are in the hospital and she knows she can have peace and quiet there. She falls fast asleep cause she is exhausted.

RC calls Tommy to try and see if MC really did leave the kids in teh trailer sleeping and bail on him. She did.

RC calls his mother and or grandmother whining MC left and the kids are there alone sleeping, that one of them has to get over there asap.
One of them does, and upon arrival finds Haleigh gone (or dead).

The cover-up begins so the pill situation wouldn't be exposed and get RC in trouble. They stage the house, make it appear like a break in bla bla.

They find MC at her parents, get her all scared telling her because SHE left the kids alone and now Haleigh was gone she would go down for it all, so to help HER they came up with this big coverup and got rid of the evidence (haleigh). Drag her back to the mobile home while filling her in on the story, you woke up and she was gone, that's all you need to know and say Misty, she was there when you went to sleep, and gone when you woke up and the back door was wide open with a brick. Just say that and everyone will focus on looking for haleigh instead of your story. Trust us Misty, this will all be fine. (i can just hear them filling her head with crap)

MC does it like they ask, RC marries her and shuts up Tommy because Tommy knows MC left to go sleep at her moms and shouldn't be the one to take the fall for this. Maybe MC convinced TC to please go along with it cuase she will get in trouble for leaving the kids alone (eventho RC has probably done it many times)

This is why the bed didn't appear to be slept in, cause MC didnt' actually get around to falling asleep there before she got fed up and left.

This could be why the evidence doesn't match up, When Misty tried to fill in the blanks of the entire night (when she was only there for parts of it) she did a terrbile job.

Misty failed polygraphs for obvious reasons as stated above, she HAD to stick with the - I woke up she was gone story, since she already let that out there, she wasn't even there and that is why it came up deceptive

TN and GGMS sang her praises cause they knew she was helping them by sticking to the script as best she could.

Why TN turned on her later could be because she told too many alternate versions, she screwed it all up and they worry she is going to talk and bring them all down so they are now trying to discredit her in case she does come out with the truth.

Sure as heck wish we had access to phone logs, would clear a lot of things up for me.

Wonderful post luv.
I appreciate all the thought and sleuthing that went into your theory. And, I believe somewhere in this is the reality of what did happen.
I am always interested in the posts that go the length to put a theory together. These posts become a measuring stick for us to take what we like and add our own or completely agree.
You did a great job. Thanks

 

[azwriter]

Good morning everyone!

As I go through these posts on theories, I'm not completely sure why Ron's anger was directed in so many different directions during the 911 call.

It seems to me that Ron projected anger in many areas of that call. First, was he mad at the 911 operator who was asking questions Ron deemed useless in finding his daughter?

But then, he also has a flurry of anger toward whoever took his child in making threats of killing that person, stating that he doesn't care if he's put in prison for that deed.

And at the same time it's obvious he's angry with Misty when we hear him question her as to how she could have let his daughter be taken.

Also he's mad because no one from LE has yet arrived at his home to begin a search for Haleigh or investigate the situation.

And, further, depending upon how you view his behavior during that call: Was Ron really frustrated and angry at Misty because she did not follow the plan set up for her to make the 911 call earlier so Ron did not have to be part of that intitial call?

Or
was Ron acting? Was he going through the motions of trying to sound like a father who had just discovered his child was missing in the middle of the night? Was his behavior a ruse to cover what he already knew?

Any ideas?

 

[dodie20]

LE has, up til recently, been trying to put the timeline together. I think they were wanting to know exactly when the gun fight took place. This theory is a lot of guessing on my part, but I tried to put the main events in a tentative order. misty is gone for 3 days on a binger. ron takes haleigh to school, (was misty not home yet?), but is driving like a bat out of ****. misty picks haleigh up from school, looking worn out, & smacking Jr., & chewing on lindsey & some guy, (tommy?), about some bad ****,(dope?). fight over gun? ron goes to work. ac man goes by trailer. tn is at trailer? ggs goes by trailer. argument between ron & misty on phone? numerous calls from ron, including at least 1 to tommy. misty leaves house. jr. hears squeaky shoes, sees man in black take haleigh, & sees bouncing couch. a scream is heard. misty is seen cring on phone. ron stops for cigs. drives like a cracker. ignores misty's calls? comotion with loud vehicle is heard. gets home. misty calls 911. (greenwood has said the 1st call came in at 2something. cops were already at tommy's when contacted.it was reported that 'she' (haleigh?), was last seen 1 1/2 hr earlier). dumpster hits. misty goes home to mom. misty moves back with ron. misty fails ldts. tommy tells le misty was gone that night. ron puts dead rat in tommy's mailbox. tommy fails ldt.

 

[krkrjx]

IMO, Ron knows what happened to Haleigh, or at least knows what led up to the tragedy if he does not know the specifics of her demise.

My take on all this is that Ron did not know a whole lot when he arrived home from work. However, I believe his mind put things together very quickly. I also believe Ron had a hand in some of the staging and versed Misty on what to say to 911. I believe without a doubt that Ron was significantly involved in the cover-up.

I do not think any of the players intended harm to come to Haleigh and that whatever happened was the result of some unrelated activity or activities. There was likely something going on in the days/weeks before February 9 that most people might foresee as potentially leading to a tragic outcome if it were unfolding in their own household, but in the Cummings household--with the norm being chaos and living on the edge of the law--nothing seemed out of place enough to cause them to take preventive action. IOW, February 9, 2009 was a day like any other day for them, IMO. It was chaotic, fighting, cussing, and threatening behaviors ruled the day, and it was nothing out of the norm for them.

I think Ron knew almost immediately after his arrival home that Haleigh was forever gone. And what facts he did not have at that time, he figured out or learned as days passed. Hence, he appeared grief-stricken at times (he never wanted it to happen) followed by statements and actions that fly in the face of a distraught parent hoping his child comes home safely.

Even though I believe Ron didn't intend for this tragedy to happen, once it happened there was nothing more for him and his family to do but engage in some serious damage control. Haleigh was never coming home, so what purpose would be served by airing the family's dirty laundry...they had secrets and wanted to keep those secrets.

Yes, Ron was angry in the 911 call but I think Ron was in general an angry guy who flew off the handle with little provocation. He never wanted anyone questioning anything and when the 911 operator asked questions, Ron immediately became defensive. Even simple questions like when is her birthday or what was she wearing, got Ron's back up.

This is all JMO, of course.

 

[1Chump]

Good morning everyone!

As I go through these posts on theories, I'm not completely sure why Ron's anger was directed in so many different directions during the 911 call.

It seems to me that Ron projected anger in many areas of that call. First, was he mad at the 911 operator who was asking questions Ron deemed useless in finding his daughter?

But then, he also has a flurry of anger toward whoever took his child in making threats of killing that person, stating that he doesn't care if he's put in prison for that deed.

And at the same time it's obvious he's angry with Misty when we hear him question her as to how she could have let his daughter be taken.

Also he's mad because no one from LE has yet arrived at his home to begin a search for Haleigh or investigate the situation.

And, further, depending upon how you view his behavior during that call: Was Ron really frustrated and angry at Misty because she did not follow the plan set up for her to make the 911 call earlier so Ron did not have to be part of that intitial call?

Or
was Ron acting? Was he going through the motions of trying to sound like a father who had just discovered his child was missing in the middle of the night? Was his behavior a ruse to cover what he already knew?

Any ideas?

IMO, all Ron's anger was trying to sound like a father who had just discovered his child missing.

IMO, I'm kind of on the fence on if Ron was angry that Misty did not make the call before he arrived home. At first I did think that might be the case but now I don't. Because Ron is a control freak, I don't see him trusting Misty to make that call without him right there controlling her.

IMO, the rest of the anger was staged. Ron had to make a choice on how he would react. Ron know that in his reaction, he also had to misdirect LE away from them. If Ron was crying, his misdirection to someone taking Haleigh would be weaker. But by being angry, he could make threats which LE would take more serious.

IMO, if you listen to Ron on the 911 call, there is no doubt that Ron is going to go out and find the person who took his child. When no one is there to question him, Ron is angry but in control. Yet the minute LE arrived, when they needed him to answer questions, he became hysterical and could not answer any Ron completely lost control. I think that shows more than any thing that he was acting angry.

IMO, in my experience in the immediate crisis people react one of two ways. They either do anything to stay in control to function including getting angry or they lose all control, cry and cannot function. That Ron had both reactions in such a short time makes me believe none of it was true.

 

[kant]

as do i sista ! BBM

i just wanted to add to your post, Ron's concern disappeared before he left work that night, because he claims to have worked a lil over time, on that barge that came in. IMO, if i weren't able to get a hold of the person in charge of my home and children, i wouldn't be staying to work overtime either. JMO.... i wouldn't even care if it costs me my job, i would have told my boss, that i need to go check on my kids, and if i wasn't permitted to leave, i would leave anyways, because something just isn't right. if i was permitted to leave, i would have and once i saw all was well and good, i would have returned to work, and probably worked the overtime to make sure i made my hours that week. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

WORD!

And additionally, you probably wouldnt have stopped off at the quicky mart for nuts and beverages or whatever it was Ronald purchased.

moo

 

[dodie20]

there's something about Ron driving so recklessly that morning, & Misty pizzed about the bad ****, & the party that a witness told Tim Miller about...some connection I'm not getting. if the party was the night before, that would mean that Misty wasn't home. Did Ron work the night before? or was he out looking for Misty? was he mad at Misty that morning, & that's why he was driving so bad? maybe he had just gotten word of what Misty had done, & was on a mission. He bypassed the bus stop, completely. He claimed to have gone to GGS for an outfit, & Misty claimed to have walked Haleigh to class, but I don't believe any of that. I remember something about Haleigh being marked absent, then it was changed, so I'm assuming she was late for class. Something went on that morning, that's connected to Haleigh's disappearance, & something went on that afternoon, to force Ron to lie about picking Haleigh up. MOO. because I don't believe either story...or Chelsea's story of Ron refusing to roll down his window. I believe Santos & his gf. So, whatever happened that day, involved at least Ron, Misty, Tommy, Lindsey, & probably Chelsea, Timmy, & Joe. & it must be serious, or at least the explanation of those events, can't be told, because it would lead to what happened to Haleigh. I think that was a VERY busy & eventful day...no all day sleeping for Ron, Misty, & Jr. I don't believe that ridiculous story either. So, in my mind, & IMO, I can't seperate Ron from any of this. He's up to his eyeballs in lies & cover-up. MOO.

 

[B4igo2it]

RC had just thrown MC and her personal items out of his life. Why was he and his family so eager to get her to come back? Whatever reason he kicked her out, he had even more reason to keep it that way as he knew she was with another man.
... makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

[suspicious1]

RC had just thrown MC and her personal items out of his life. Why was he and his family so eager to get her to come back? Whatever reason he kicked her out, he had even more reason to keep it that way as he knew she was with another man.
... makes absolutely no sense to me.

It doesn't make any sense to me either, B. I mean, Ron actually knocked Misty around just days before Haleigh disappeared...Ron threw her clothes out on someone else's lawn...it didn't seem to phase Misty the way Ron thought it would.. and Misty continued doing her thing...with WBG...that weekend before Haleigh went missing....IMO, the Cummings didn't WANT Misty back...they NEEDED Misty back...for their own personal reasons...

 

[dodie20]

The only thing that gets in the way of me completely blaming the Croslins, is Ron's behavior. IMO, he's at least involved in a major part of the cover-up, but if he was innocent, there'd be no real need to participate in that at all...unless he was covering for Misty. & if that was the case, he would've had to make a quick decision. By the time, she went home to her mom, & then went back to Ron, they were completely supportive of each other. A lot of people use his demeanor at the court house, (marriage license), to point out his ambivalence towards Misty, but I thought it was directed more at the media, because his other actions spoke louder-proposing at Chilli's, walking around with his arm around her, marrying her, defending her against logic. His own mom even talked about how in love they were, so, him covering for Misty is a definate maybe. But for me to buy into that, I have to accept a few things. He loved Misty more than he wanted justice for Haleigh, he is a very immature man, & Misty is more mature than him, & Misty had the upper hand, in their relationship. & that last 1 is hard to accept, for the simple reason that she is so ignorant, & he has such a controlling history. But, according to Santos, Ron was completely infatuated with Misty, so it's possible. It just seems like they operated their relationship, like a couple of jr high kids. & after seeing that NY pict, it got me to wondering just how immature Ron really is. His hat looked like something a 12 year old boy would do, & Misty's pony tail looked like a kid's. & that pose...not mature at all. & then Tim Miller saying they were the most immature couple he had ever met, makes me wonder who Ron really was. him falling to the ground sobbing, & then it was reported that after the fight with Misty's family, he spent the night crying off & on. So, Ron being immature & childish, instead of a tough guy, is seeming more like a real possibility.

 

[suspicious1]

there's something about Ron driving so recklessly that morning, & Misty pizzed about the bad ****, & the party that a witness told Tim Miller about...some connection I'm not getting. if the party was the night before, that would mean that Misty wasn't home. Did Ron work the night before? or was he out looking for Misty? was he mad at Misty that morning, & that's why he was driving so bad? maybe he had just gotten word of what Misty had done, & was on a mission. He bypassed the bus stop, completely. He claimed to have gone to GGS for an outfit, & Misty claimed to have walked Haleigh to class, but I don't believe any of that. I remember something about Haleigh being marked absent, then it was changed, so I'm assuming she was late for class. Something went on that morning, that's connected to Haleigh's disappearance, & something went on that afternoon, to force Ron to lie about picking Haleigh up. MOO. because I don't believe either story...or Chelsea's story of Ron refusing to roll down his window. I believe Santos & his gf. So, whatever happened that day, involved at least Ron, Misty, Tommy, Lindsey, & probably Chelsea, Timmy, & Joe. & it must be serious, or at least the explanation of those events, can't be told, because it would lead to what happened to Haleigh. I think that was a VERY busy & eventful day...no all day sleeping for Ron, Misty, & Jr. I don't believe that ridiculous story either. So, in my mind, & IMO, I can't seperate Ron from any of this. He's up to his eyeballs in lies & cover-up. MOO.

confusing ain't it?

But IMO, this is why LE wanted to look into the days that led up to Haleigh's disappearance...I never understood that...so I'm thinking that LE thought that "something" led to Haleigh's disappearance....and whatever that was..happened in the days prior to her going missing...it was all part of the timeline that LE was trying to get straigtened out....that even as of October '09...they still had not figured out..but Ron would later help with that timeline after his drug arrest...IMO, whatever was going on surrounding Haleigh's disappearance...Ron didn't want to talk about it....why? IMO, LE did a good job by locking Ron and Misty up...hopefully we will soon learn the truth.

WHERE'S HALEIGH?

 

[suspicious1]

The only thing that gets in the way of me completely blaming the Croslins, is Ron's behavior. IMO, he's at least involved in a major part of the cover-up, but if he was innocent, there'd be no real need to participate in that at all...unless he was covering for Misty. & if that was the case, he would've had to make a quick decision. By the time, she went home to her mom, & then went back to Ron, they were completely supportive of each other. A lot of people use his demeanor at the court house, (marriage license), to point out his ambivalence towards Misty, but I thought it was directed more at the media, because his other actions spoke louder-proposing at Chilli's, walking around with his arm around her, marrying her, defending her against logic. His own mom even talked about how in love they were, so, him covering for Misty is a definate maybe. But for me to buy into that, I have to accept a few things. He loved Misty more than he wanted justice for Haleigh, he is a very immature man, & Misty is more mature than him, & Misty had the upper hand, in their relationship. & that last 1 is hard to accept, for the simple reason that she is so ignorant, & he has such a controlling history. But, according to Santos, Ron was completely infatuated with Misty, so it's possible. It just seems like they operated their relationship, like a couple of jr high kids. & after seeing that NY pict, it got me to wondering just how immature Ron really is. His hat looked like something a 12 year old boy would do, & Misty's pony tail looked like a kid's. & that pose...not mature at all. & then Tim Miller saying they were the most immature couple he had ever met, makes me wonder who Ron really was. him falling to the ground sobbing, & then it was reported that after the fight with Misty's family, he spent the night crying off & on. So, Ron being immature & childish, instead of a tough guy, is seeming more like a real possibility.

BBM

I totally agree with you on this, Dodie...If Ron was completely innocent I don't see him participating in covering up what happened to his daughter...his own flesh and blood...hell, we heard how he reacted to Misty claiming that she was pregnant by him...so NO WAY do I see him covering for her, if she, in fact did something to his daugher...or even if he thought that she was the one responsible for harming Haleigh....IMO, he would've beat the crap out of Misty...and felt that it was "justified"....if he thought that she was in the wrong..

JMO of course

 

[dodie20]

BBM

I totally agree with you on this, Dodie...If Ron was completely innocent I don't see him participating in covering up what happened to his daughter...his own flesh and blood...hell, we heard how he reacted to Misty claiming that she was pregnant by him...so NO WAY do I see him covering for her, if she, in fact did something to his daugher...or even if he thought that she was the one responsible for harming Haleigh....IMO, he would've beat the crap out of Misty...and felt that it was "justified"....if he thought that she was in the wrong..

JMO of course

I agree, & I'm probably considered wrong, but if Misty's guilty, a beating within an inch of her life, is what she deserved...then turn her over to the cops. But that didn't happen. & there has to be a reason why. Either he's guilty, or he knows she didn't hurt Haleigh, because he knows who did, or he's covering for Misty. His behavior is bizarre, so it doesn't really point to the answer, & all of that speaking out of both sides of his mouth doesn't help. He married Misty, but he was keeping his enemies close. He never questioned her, but he told TM that the beds hadn't been slept in, & there was no detergent. He sent the Donna Brock tm, but he divorced her. He road raged & trafficked dope with her & let her get his name tatted on her backside, but he agreed to testify against her. He said that he thinks she was coerced out of fear, but he has also said that she's the key.

 

[suspicious1]

I agree, & I'm probably considered wrong, but if Misty's guilty, a beating within an inch of her life, is what she deserved...then turn her over to the cops. But that didn't happen. & there has to be a reason why. Either he's guilty, or he knows she didn't hurt Haleigh, because he knows who did, or he's covering for Misty. His behavior is bizarre, so it doesn't really point to the answer, & all of that speaking out of both sides of his mouth doesn't help. He married Misty, but he was keeping his enemies close. He never questioned her, but he told TM that the beds hadn't been slept in, & there was no detergent. He sent the Donna Brock tm, but he divorced her. He road raged & trafficked dope with her & let her get his name tatted on her backside, but he agreed to testify against her. He said that he thinks she was coerced out of fear, but he has also said that she's the key.

Dodie, you're not wrong..I feel the same way...if Misty was guilty..a beating is what she deserved...and like you said, that didn't happen...IMO, he knows Misty did not harm his daughter...so why beat her? at that point he needed Misty involved in the cover up....

JMO of course

 

[lonetraveler]

Good morning everyone!

As I go through these posts on theories, I'm not completely sure why Ron's anger was directed in so many different directions during the 911 call.

It seems to me that Ron projected anger in many areas of that call. First, was he mad at the 911 operator who was asking questions Ron deemed useless in finding his daughter?

But then, he also has a flurry of anger toward whoever took his child in making threats of killing that person, stating that he doesn't care if he's put in prison for that deed.

And at the same time it's obvious he's angry with Misty when we hear him question her as to how she could have let his daughter be taken.

Also he's mad because no one from LE has yet arrived at his home to begin a search for Haleigh or investigate the situation.

And, further, depending upon how you view his behavior during that call: Was Ron really frustrated and angry at Misty because she did not follow the plan set up for her to make the 911 call earlier so Ron did not have to be part of that intitial call?

Or
was Ron acting? Was he going through the motions of trying to sound like a father who had just discovered his child was missing in the middle of the night? Was his behavior a ruse to cover what he already knew?Any ideas?

I've bolded your last two paragraphs because I think that they are both true. I think that the plan called for the 911 call to happen prior to Ron coming home. I think that he showed up too early and found that the call had not been made or that Misty had not shown up at the house to make the call yet so he decided to take a little trip to the convenience store to eat up some time until Misty could arrive and make the call. However, Misty was reluctant to make the call and maybe even refused to go along with the plan at first. Ron was most likely enraged when he lingered at the store, arrived home to find that Misty had not made the call. It really inconvenienced him. He did not want to be there to have to talk with the 911 operator, that is why he hung up twice, this is also why he was so "distraught" when LE arrived so that he would not have to answer questions and his mother and Misty would have to do this for him. He was, IMO, going through the motions as you posted and trying to "act" like he is suppose to act. He continued to act for quite a while, like when he fell to the ground when he had made a slip in what he said in order to distract from his words.

 

[azwriter]

I've bolded your last two paragraphs because I think that they are both true. I think that the plan called for the 911 call to happen prior to Ron coming home. I think that he showed up too early and found that the call had not been made or that Misty had not shown up at the house to make the call yet so he decided to take a little trip to the convenience store to eat up some time until Misty could arrive and make the call. However, Misty was reluctant to make the call and maybe even refused to go along with the plan at first. Ron was most likely enraged when he lingered at the store, arrived home to find that Misty had not made the call. It really inconvenienced him. He did not want to be there to have to talk with the 911 operator, that is why he hung up twice, this is also why he was so "distraught" when LE arrived so that he would not have to answer questions and his mother and Misty would have to do this for him. He was, IMO, going through the motions as you posted and trying to "act" like he is suppose to act. He continued to act for quite a while, like when he fell to the ground when he had made a slip in what he said in order to distract from his words.

Lone, a very convincing post. It all makes sense as you have written here. I guess you and I have the same thoughts that Ron didn't want to be part of any 911 call. That probably wasn't part of the plan. It would have appeared better for Ron to have not been at the home when the 911 call was made, remember he was "at werk."

And his absence at the home would have further made it appear he had nothing to do with her disappearance or knew anything about it. Even better would have been for Ron to be at work and be notified by his supervisor at the plant that he was needed home immediately. He could have really done a great acting job then in front of all his fellow employees.

But that means Misty would had to have made the 911 call sooner than she did, perhaps around 2 or earlier. But then again, the timing of the call was important. We don't know the time Haleigh went missing. We only know as Misty tells it, she awoke to find her gone "she saw a three." Maybe Misty wasn't at the mobile home until almost 3, she got the lay out of the plan from perhaps TN, and she didn't have time to make the call before Ron arrived home.

I always go back to the idea that Misty did not sound believable or panic or even clear about the entire story during the 911 call. She fumpled around far too much.

I think she didn't have a lot of time to rehearsh her 911 call. She couldn't even identify correctly what Haleigh was wearing when she was last seen at the time she was put to bed.

And, I'm in total agreement that Ron did not want to be talking with any 911 operator. He wanted to be removed from it all, as far as he could. jmo

 

[dodie20]

If cops want Misty to talk, I hope they don't wait til her next sentencing, because she seems to adapt pretty quickly, so, there's probably just a small window of opportunity, somewhere between miserable & resigned. If after the shock wears off, she finds that she's being treated well, & the other inmates are nice to her, she might be ok with prison & never talk. She needs to have the crud scared out of her, & her future needs to look never endingly bleak. I wonder if there was a REASON for putting her in with Donna Brock, or if it was the luck of the draw? Could Donna be working on a deal? I hate 2nd guessing every move, but this case makes me a little paranoid, lol. Donna was good to Misty & her family, so maybe... I'm thinking Donna could work on a 'we'll do this together' kind of thing. I'm leanintg towards LE not suspecting Misty as the murderer, but being desperate for the information she's hiding...namely a body location. But maybe they do suspect her, & are wanting the body & a confession. the case solved & presented in a neat little package. If they suspect Misty, they'd do better by working on Ron. IMO, he knows everything. or if they had played up to Tommy more-made him think they believed the Joe story-they might've gotten more out of him. Tommy, would've eventually admitted to everything, IMO, except his own involvement, if he believed it would set him free. MOO.

 

[dodie20]

there's something about Ron driving so recklessly that morning, & Misty pizzed about the bad ****, & the party that a witness told Tim Miller about...some connection I'm not getting. if the party was the night before, that would mean that Misty wasn't home. Did Ron work the night before? or was he out looking for Misty? was he mad at Misty that morning, & that's why he was driving so bad? maybe he had just gotten word of what Misty had done, & was on a mission. He bypassed the bus stop, completely. He claimed to have gone to GGS for an outfit, & Misty claimed to have walked Haleigh to class, but I don't believe any of that. I remember something about Haleigh being marked absent, then it was changed, so I'm assuming she was late for class. Something went on that morning, that's connected to Haleigh's disappearance, & something went on that afternoon, to force Ron to lie about picking Haleigh up. MOO. because I don't believe either story...or Chelsea's story of Ron refusing to roll down his window. I believe Santos & his gf. So, whatever happened that day, involved at least Ron, Misty, Tommy, Lindsey, & probably Chelsea, Timmy, & Joe. & it must be serious, or at least the explanation of those events, can't be told, because it would lead to what happened to Haleigh. I think that was a VERY busy & eventful day...no all day sleeping for Ron, Misty, & Jr. I don't believe that ridiculous story either. So, in my mind, & IMO, I can't seperate Ron from any of this. He's up to his eyeballs in lies & cover-up. MOO.

If the party was the night before, Ron might've just found out where Misty was, & that's why he was driving so reclessly that morning. I'd think he'd slow down long enough to drop Haleigh at the bus stop...but that's rational thinking, & Ron was a man on a mission. So, was he on his way to drag Misty out of some party house? (& before you scoff, my daughter's ex bf's mom, did that very thing on more than 1 occasion. dragged him out & took him home, to my (stoopid), waiting daughter). So, if that's true, what happened next? or would he have showed who was boss, said a few choice words & left? But whatever happened, Haleigh made it to school, & Misty was there that afternoon, complaining about bad ****. hmmm, I've got to think on this awhile longer. Because if Misty was still gone the night before, why did Ron & his mom need her placed at the trailer? I never believed TN's mushy story of thos 2 sitting up all night, working out their problems. good grief, that was unbuyable.