General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[lonetraveler]

Lone, a very convincing post. It all makes sense as you have written here. I guess you and I have the same thoughts that Ron didn't want to be part of any 911 call. That probably wasn't part of the plan. It would have appeared better for Ron to have not been at the home when the 911 call was made, remember he was "at werk."

And his absence at the home would have further made it appear he had nothing to do with her disappearance or knew anything about it. Even better would have been for Ron to be at work and be notified by his supervisor at the plant that he was needed home immediately. He could have really done a great acting job then in front of all his fellow employees.

But that means Misty would had to have made the 911 call sooner than she did, perhaps around 2 or earlier. But then again, the timing of the call was important. We don't know the time Haleigh went missing. We only know as Misty tells it, she awoke to find her gone "she saw a three." Maybe Misty wasn't at the mobile home until almost 3, she got the lay out of the plan from perhaps TN, and she didn't have time to make the call before Ron arrived home.

I always go back to the idea that Misty did not sound believable or panic or even clear about the entire story during the 911 call. She fumpled around far too much.

I think she didn't have a lot of time to rehearsh her 911 call. She couldn't even identify correctly what Haleigh was wearing when she was last seen at the time she was put to bed.

And, I'm in total agreement that Ron did not want to be talking with any 911 operator. He wanted to be removed from it all, as far as he could. jmo

Something else I've wondered about, at what time during Ron's time at work did he volunteered to work overtime. Was he impatiently waiting for that one call that would let him know that the deed was done and that he should just work until he was notified "officially" that Haleigh was missing? Was he so impatient that he started calling repeatedly trying to find out why it was taking so long? Since it was taking so long did he volunteer for the overtime so that he could use the "I was at werk" alibi for awhile longer? Was Teresa having a problem with getting Misty to the MH? It would be really nice if we could learn more about the time that Ron reported to work at PDM, the times that he was actually seen at work (we have read reports that he was working in the darkened back 40, no video cameras, no light, easy way to disappear, etc.) and what time was it when he volunteered to work overtime.

 

[suspicious1]

Here's my ongoing theory: Whatever happened to Haleigh is Ronald Cummings' fault. He was the adult in charge of two small children. It was his responsibility to provide proper care for those children in his absence, and he did not do that! Time and time again, he did not do it! He left those kids basically without a caretaker because he knew Misty was into drugs, and he knew she was not a proper choice for babysitter ever, let alone that night in February 2009.

I don't care if Ron worked his full shift plus overtime that night. I don't care if 10 people can account for his whereabouts every minute of that work shift. I don't care if Ronald Cummings was in church that entire night! It matters not! because he left three children in his home unsupervised.

Ronald Cummings is responsible for the disappearance/demise of his daughter, possibly directly but at least indirectly. And then he went on to do everything he possibly could to thwart the investigation into what happened that night, refusing to answer LE's questions for over a year, until his sorry butt was finally on the line for drug trafficking.

This whole situation is sickening. And this whole group of [most unusual people] disgusts me.

BBM

I totally agree with your post but especially the part that I have highlighted..IMO, Ron has done nothing to help with the search for his daughter...The fact that he refused to answer questions about his daughter's disappearance, just had me over the edge...I can't think of a reason NOT to help with the investigation unless...he had something to do with it...whether directly or indirectly.

Ron claimed that he knew nothing because he was at work...but IMO, LE has known all along that Ron had information that would help the case...information that Ron was not willing to give up until he was busted for dealing drugs...

Ron did a interview with Dana Treen:waitasec: right after he was arrested...Ron told us that right after he was "captured" LE didn't waste any time questioning him about Haleigh...So if LE thought that Ron had absolutely no knowledge of what happened to his daughter...why would they be questioning him almost a year later about his daughter..:waitasec: I mean, it doesn't make any sense if he had been "cleared" long before the drug bust...

JMO of course

 

[nomoresorrow]

BBM

I totally agree with your post but especially the part that I have highlighted..IMO, Ron has done nothing to help with the search for his daughter...The fact that he refused to answer questions about his daughter's disappearance, just had me over the edge...I can't think of a reason NOT to help with the investigation unless...he had something to do with it...whether directly or indirectly.

Ron claimed that he knew nothing because he was at work...but IMO, LE has known all along that Ron had information that would help the case...information that Ron was not willing to give up until he was busted for dealing drugs...

Ron did a interview with Dana Treen:waitasec: right after he was arrested...Ron told us that right after he was "captured" LE didn't waste any time questioning him about Haleigh...So if LE thought that Ron had absolutely no knowledge of what happened to his daughter...why would they be questioning him almost a year later about his daughter..:waitasec: I mean, it doesn't make any sense if he had been "cleared" long before the drug bust...

JMO of course

BBM: Exactly suspicious!

 

[suspicious1]

I totally agree also. This is the one thing I've believed from the beginning - if Ron truly was at work and came home to find HaLeigh gone, the first thing we would have heard about this case is a guy hurting/killing his teenage girlfriend when he came home to find his daughter "gone".

Absolutely. Even after Ron's arrest...he maintained his position saying that if he found out before LE who harmed and/or took his daughter...that it would be "done dealing"..meaning he would kill this person or cause harm to them in return...yet LE marked Misty as the "key" to this investigation and what did Ron do? He married her.

LE has stated a few times that they did not have tunnel vision...and that this case was a huge puzzle...and not only that, they once stated that Misty was not the only one with inconsistencies. and while trying to interview Cummings again...he refused...and then we have Ron stating that LE was only focusing on HIM and Misty..Ron wanted LE to look at the Sheffields..

BTW, whatever happened to Ron and his attorney trying to hire a private investigator? I never heard anything else about it.

 

[justus4all]

Something else I've wondered about, at what time during Ron's time at work did he volunteered to work overtime. Was he impatiently waiting for that one call that would let him know that the deed was done and that he should just work until he was notified "officially" that Haleigh was missing? Was he so impatient that he started calling repeatedly trying to find out why it was taking so long? Since it was taking so long did he volunteer for the overtime so that he could use the "I was at werk" alibi for awhile longer? Was Teresa having a problem with getting Misty to the MH? It would be really nice if we could learn more about the time that Ron reported to work at PDM, the times that he was actually seen at work (we have read reports that he was working in the darkened back 40, no video cameras, no light, easy way to disappear, etc.) and what time was it when he volunteered to work overtime.

Great questions!!! lone traveler.......

I would like to add if I may...IF Ron WAS impatient..that he kept calling...he COULD HAVE sneaked out to find out what was taking so long...


IMO..and on the subject of TAKING SO LONG... This is why I believe it DID take so long...from the time Haleigh perished..to the 911 call..

First....Haleigh was injured and died BEFORE Ron went to work..
Since Misty was not there, Ron called upon TN for help..

Then...TN stepped in and told Ron to hi tail it in to work...early..to create an alibi he was seen at work..earlier...

Then ..the cover up began..TN in charge...Haleigh had to be MOVED..to the dumpster to get her away from the crime scene..(which I truly believe was NOT Ron's MH)

Then..Haleigh was then moved to another temporary place..until a place was decided where she would be buried...This decision probably took a great deal of time ..took maybe into the evening to decide..

Then..In the meantime the stories were being decided and the parts to be played..led by TN..

Then..TN was looking for Misty..as Misty was not involved AT THIS POINT..

THen...there was time needed to "clean out" drugs, guns, from the MH..that probably took awhile to "load up" and remove..and find a location to "store it"

Then...it took some time to "stage the MH"..and create the 911 call "story"

Then...Misty had to found, brought to the MH, and her story rehearsed..At this point..imo..that Misty became involved

Then...Misty to make the call...which IMO..was supposed to happen BEFORE Ron came home...IMO..Ron would arrive when the LE was ALREADY there..for his alibi..I was at work..IMO..he did not want to be there while the 911 call was being made...PLUS Ron would have wanted the LE to WITNESS he was NOT THERE..when they arrived..and IMO..that is why he was so angry....the plan started to fall apart..with the 911 call plan..

These are all in my own opinion..but all the parts played, decisions made, actions taken, all took time..and COULD have resulted in Ron "working OT" to allow for all this to happen and details covered..before he came home..to a "missing" daughter..

Yes..it would be interesting to know ...when Ron was asked to work OT..Usually OT is authorized by a supervisor..not by the employee..even if it is..to make up time lost..BY ARRIVING LATE....IF..that was the case..employees just cannot work OT without authorization..OR start their shift early without authorization as well....yes...IT WOULD BE GREATLY interesting to know.
again...all in my own opinion..

 

[lonetraveler]

Great questions!!! lone traveler.......

I would like to add if I may...IF Ron WAS impatient..that he kept calling...he COULD HAVE sneaked out to find out what was taking so long...


IMO..and on the subject of TAKING SO LONG... This is why I believe it DID take so long...from the time Haleigh perished..to the 911 call..

First....Haleigh was injured and died BEFORE Ron went to work..
Since Misty was not there, Ron called upon TN for help..

Then...TN stepped in and told Ron to hi tail it in to work...early..to create an alibi he was seen at work..earlier...

Then ..the cover up began..TN in charge...Haleigh had to be MOVED..to the dumpster to get her away from the crime scene..(which I truly believe was NOT Ron's MH)

Then..Haleigh was then moved to another temporary place..until a place was decided where she would be buried...This decision probably took a great deal of time ..took maybe into the evening to decide..

Then..In the meantime the stories were being decided and the parts to be played..led by TN..

Then..TN was looking for Misty..as Misty was not involved AT THIS POINT..

THen...there was time needed to "clean out" drugs, guns, from the MH..that probably took awhile to "load up" and remove..and find a location to "store it"

Then...it took some time to "stage the MH"..and create the 911 call "story"

Then...Misty had to found, brought to the MH, and her story rehearsed..At this point..imo..that Misty became involved

Then...Misty to make the call...which IMO..was supposed to happen BEFORE Ron came home...IMO..Ron would arrive when the LE was ALREADY there..for his alibi..I was at work..IMO..he did not want to be there while the 911 call was being made...PLUS Ron would have wanted the LE to WITNESS he was NOT THERE..when they arrived..and IMO..that is why he was so angry....the plan started to fall apart..with the 911 call plan..

These are all in my own opinion..but all the parts played, decisions made, actions taken, all took time..and COULD have resulted in Ron "working OT" to allow for all this to happen and details covered..before he came home..to a "missing" daughter..

Yes..it would be interesting to know ...when Ron was asked to work OT..Usually OT is authorized by a supervisor..not by the employee..even if it is..to make up time lost..BY ARRIVING LATE....IF..that was the case..employees just cannot work OT without authorization..OR start their shift early without authorization as well....yes...IT WOULD BE GREATLY interesting to know.
again...all in my own opinion..

LOL, it is as if you have read my mind. I beleive that is exactly what happened.

 

[justus4all]

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Then...it took some time to "stage the MH"..and create the 911 call "story"

Then...Misty had to found, brought to the MH, and her story rehearsed..At this point..imo..that Misty became involved

Then...Misty to make the call...which in my opinion was BEFORE Ron came home

TO ADD FURTHER...

There was a call made for an officer to come to Tommy's address around 2 something..(before the 911 call was placed( don't have the link) but most remember this topic..I believe that TN placed that call for a wellness check..trying to find Misty..and the report was officer went to that address and either Tommy/leslie said that "she was seen in her residence about 1 1/2 hours ago...IMO..they were talking about MISTY seen..not Haleigh seen..IMO..So IMO TN was trying to locate Misty to come to the MH..and make the call..and somehow Misty was located and brought to the MH by ? and she made the call...Perhaps Ron stopping at the store was to give time for Misty to be found and brought to the MH..the 911 call made and the LE to be there when he arrived......all in my own opinion..

If this opinion has been repeated before I apologize..
(I can't keep up with ALL of the opinions)

 

[SoSueMe]

Love the new avatar. Wow!

Thanks. It's for Halloween. ~Bugs & Hisses & all that Jazz~

 

[B4igo2it]

RE: The Shell Harbor search

Does TN/GGMS think they R Cagney and Lacey or what? It was foolish of them to visit the search area prior to LE because:
1) could taint evidence, 2) could be suspect of removing evidence, 3) could be suspect of planting evidence, and/or 4) could become a suspect/POI by placing "their" DNA on evidence.

Just exactly why did TN/GGMS go to search area? Do they know Haleigh is in this area and wanted to make sure she has not surfaced? Was something left there that needed to be retrieved? Did they intentionally want to ensure their DNA/scent planted in this area (in the event something was found)?

If I were LE, I would have used another set of tracking dogs to see just exactly what areas those two "checked out" - but, was LE aware they were there the previous day?? (We didn't find out til GGM-Flo spoke of it)

Lastly, I am remembering what Putnam County Sheriff Hardy said at his press conference: “There have been rumors spreading that a suspect has been taken into custody as the result of this investigation. This rumor is not true. However, the investigative team has identified persons of interest in this case.”
http://www.examiner.com/headlines-i...ll-harbor-search-for-missing-haleigh-cummings

… I doubt Sheriff Hardy was referring to Cagney and Lacey, however, could he be referring to the two persons who immediately showed up at the Shell Harbor/Magnolia search area prior to the official law enforcement search? Again, WTH were they doing at a possible crime scene? :waitasec:

If you could hear yourself the way I hear you, perhaps you would stop thinking your lies are so convincing-jmo

 

[twall]

RE: The Shell Harbor search

Does TN/GGMS think they R Cagney and Lacey or what? It was foolish of them to visit the search area prior to LE because:
1) could taint evidence, 2) could be suspect of removing evidence, 3) could be suspect of planting evidence, and/or 4) could become a suspect/POI by placing "their" DNA on evidence.

Just exactly why did TN/GGMS go to search area? Do they know Haleigh is in this area and wanted to make sure she has not surfaced? Was something left there that needed to be retrieved? Did they intentionally want to ensure their DNA/scent planted in this area (in the event something was found)?

If I were LE, I would have used another set of tracking dogs to see just exactly what areas those two "checked out" - but, was LE aware they were there the previous day?? (We didn't find out til GGM-Flo spoke of it)

Lastly, I am remembering what Putnam County Sheriff Hardy said at his press conference: “There have been rumors spreading that a suspect has been taken into custody as the result of this investigation. This rumor is not true. However, the investigative team has identified persons of interest in this case.”
http://www.examiner.com/headlines-i...ll-harbor-search-for-missing-haleigh-cummings

… I doubt Sheriff Hardy was referring to Cagney and Lacey, however, could he be referring to the two persons who immediately showed up at the Shell Harbor/Magnolia search area prior to the official law enforcement search? Again, WTH were they doing at a possible crime scene? :waitasec:

If you could hear yourself the way I hear you, perhaps you would stop thinking your lies are so convincing-jmo

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/[email protected]&navCatId=5
(be patient, the video may take a bit to load)

According to this report I posted a link to, yes, LE was aware they were in the area the previous day and were asked to leave by them. The NG show was not the first time AS revealed she had been in the search area the day prior to the search, she told the reporter the morning the search started she was there the day before and he broadcast it on the noon news the day the public learned of the search at Shell Harbour. That is when I found out.

The person Hardy is referring to that was rumored to be in custody is Joe.

 

[suspicious1]

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/[email protected]&navCatId=5
(be patient, the video may take a bit to load)

According to this report I posted a link to, yes, LE was aware they were in the area the previous day and were asked to leave by them. The NG show was not the first time AS revealed she had been in the search area the day prior to the search, she told the reporter the morning the search started she was there the day before and he broadcast it on the noon news the day the public learned of the search at Shell Harbour. That is when I found out.

The person Hardy is referring to that was rumored to be in custody is Joe.

When was this aired? Because it sounds like the reporter is saying that GMSykes went to the search area and was turned away...on the day LE arrived...so I'm wondering if this was aired one day after the search began? jus asking

 

[kant]

Great questions!!! lone traveler.......

I would like to add if I may...IF Ron WAS impatient..that he kept calling...he COULD HAVE sneaked out to find out what was taking so long...


IMO..and on the subject of TAKING SO LONG... This is why I believe it DID take so long...from the time Haleigh perished..to the 911 call..

First....Haleigh was injured and died BEFORE Ron went to work..
Since Misty was not there, Ron called upon TN for help..

Then...TN stepped in and told Ron to hi tail it in to work...early..to create an alibi he was seen at work..earlier...

Then ..the cover up began..TN in charge...Haleigh had to be MOVED..to the dumpster to get her away from the crime scene..(which I truly believe was NOT Ron's MH)

Then..Haleigh was then moved to another temporary place..until a place was decided where she would be buried...This decision probably took a great deal of time ..took maybe into the evening to decide..

Then..In the meantime the stories were being decided and the parts to be played..led by TN..

Then..TN was looking for Misty..as Misty was not involved AT THIS POINT..

THen...there was time needed to "clean out" drugs, guns, from the MH..that probably took awhile to "load up" and remove..and find a location to "store it"

Then...it took some time to "stage the MH"..and create the 911 call "story"

Then...Misty had to found, brought to the MH, and her story rehearsed..At this point..imo..that Misty became involved

Then...Misty to make the call...which IMO..was supposed to happen BEFORE Ron came home...IMO..Ron would arrive when the LE was ALREADY there..for his alibi..I was at work..IMO..he did not want to be there while the 911 call was being made...PLUS Ron would have wanted the LE to WITNESS he was NOT THERE..when they arrived..and IMO..that is why he was so angry....the plan started to fall apart..with the 911 call plan..

These are all in my own opinion..but all the parts played, decisions made, actions taken, all took time..and COULD have resulted in Ron "working OT" to allow for all this to happen and details covered..before he came home..to a "missing" daughter..

Yes..it would be interesting to know ...when Ron was asked to work OT..Usually OT is authorized by a supervisor..not by the employee..even if it is..to make up time lost..BY ARRIVING LATE....IF..that was the case..employees just cannot work OT without authorization..OR start their shift early without authorization as well....yes...IT WOULD BE GREATLY interesting to know.
again...all in my own opinion..

WORD> Very cogent and plausible to me too.

I cant figure out what motivated Misty to get involved in the first place tho. I mean if she were actually, initially uninvolved, how did they do it? Did they convince her that she'd be implicated somehow? And she bought it? Did they promise her a ring, a marriage, and a way out of her family's home? Imo, that sounds like a big ole out of the frying pan and into the fire, but she may not have seen it that way.

moo

 

[justus4all]

WORD> Very cogent and plausible to me too.

I cant figure out what motivated Misty to get involved in the first place tho. I mean if she were actually, initially uninvolved, how did they do it? Did they convince her that she'd be implicated somehow? And she bought it? Did they promise her a ring, a marriage, and a way out of her family's home? Imo, that sounds like a big ole out of the frying pan and into the fire, but she may not have seen it that way.

moo

Yes...you have a great point....
WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON..for Misty to cooperate/cover for the Cummings???

IMO...I believe the Cummings ...promised marriage..to Ron..and into their family...and it also was to PROTECT a Cummings member...from going to jail..otherwise...nothing else would make sense to me..

IF Misty was innocent of causing Haleigh's death...the promise of marriage would give her a reason..to "go along" with the "story"...A life with Ron perhaps children by him and a happy picture of a loving family..would entice a young girl from a dysfunctional family that she came from..It probably seemed a great idea AT THE TIME..

IF Misty was GUILTY..of causing Haleigh's death...All the Cummings would have turned on her a long time ago..and would NOT want to protect her for killing their grandchild and Ron's little girl..Who would embrace such a person??...That makes no sense to me...

IMO..Misty went along with the story/cover up...Ron married her..to keep the "bargain"..and the Cummings protected any negativity regarding Misty..and always spoke in her defense...

UNTIL RON GOT ARRESTED...and then the Cummings/and Ron himself began to slowly turn on her...

IMO...in the beginning of this mess, I believe the Cummings thought this would all slowly go away...but it didn't...and along the way...as this case got more attention..the Cummings wanted to point the finger as Misty being the one who took away Haleigh's life...because the LE was putting Ron under a "microscope"...and getting too close to the truth..

I just cannot see..(based on what I have read/heard..how the Cummings would welcome Misty into their family with open arms, marriage, heirloom jewelry, and all that..if she had taken Haleigh's life..

IMO..she is NOT the perp...but I believe she helped in the cover up..with a promise of marriage...What else would they had promised her...that would have meant more to her than that??? Also this case got sooooo much more attention than they EVER IMAGINED it would...

I hope Misty tells the truth..and not let the Cummings scare her with threats..for doing so..

all in my own opinion and my :twocents:

 

[kant]

Yes...you have a great point....
WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON..for Misty to cooperate/cover for the Cummings???

IMO...I believe the Cummings ...promised marriage..to Ron..and into their family...and it also was to PROTECT a Cummings member...from going to jail..otherwise...nothing else would make sense to me..

IF Misty was innocent of causing Haleigh's death...the promise of marriage would give her a reason..to "go along" with the "story"...A life with Ron perhaps children by him and a happy picture of a loving family..would entice a young girl from a dysfunctional family that she came from..It probably seemed a great idea AT THE TIME..

IF Misty was GUILTY..of causing Haleigh's death...All the Cummings would have turned on her a long time ago..and would NOT want to protect her for killing their grandchild and Ron's little girl..Who would embrace such a person??...That makes no sense to me...

IMO..Misty went along with the story/cover up...Ron married her..to keep the "bargain"..and the Cummings protected any negativity regarding Misty..and always spoke in her defense...

UNTIL RON GOT ARRESTED...and then the Cummings/and Ron himself began to slowly turn on her...

IMO...in the beginning of this mess, I believe the Cummings thought this would all slowly go away...but it didn't...and along the way...as this case got more attention..the Cummings wanted to point the finger as Misty being the one who took away Haleigh's life...because the LE was putting Ron under a "microscope"...and getting too close to the truth..

I just cannot see..(based on what I have read/heard..how the Cummings would welcome Misty into their family with open arms, marriage, heirloom jewelry, and all that..if she had taken Haleigh's life..

IMO..she is NOT the perp...but I believe she helped in the cover up..with a promise of marriage...What else would they had promised her...that would have meant more to her than that??? Also this case got sooooo much more attention than they EVER IMAGINED it would...

I hope Misty tells the truth..and not let the Cummings scare her with threats..for doing so..

all in my own opinion and my :twocents:

Get outta my head! heh

I agree with this too.

I never thought MIsty was Mary Poppins, but I also never thought she was responsible for whatever happened to Haleigh.

Yes, there could have been the lure of a marriage. (blarg and gack)

and or...

there could have been talk from TN and or Ron that caused Misty to infer that if she didn't go along with this, that things may get hairy for her. Drug-wise.. selling.. consuming.... I dont know the exact details of what Im trying to imply; but TN/Ron's persuasion techniques (I'll call it that) could have ranged from cutting off her supply of whatever to threats of... oh, I-dont-know-what, but whatever it was, apparently she bought it.

moo moo

 

[justus4all]

Get outta my head! heh

I agree with this too.

I never thought MIsty was Mary Poppins, but I also never thought she was responsible for whatever happened to Haleigh.

Yes, there could have been the lure of a marriage. (blarg and gack)

and or...

there could have been talk from TN and or Ron that caused Misty to infer that if she didn't go along with this, that things may get hairy for her. Drug-wise.. selling.. consuming.... I dont know the exact details of what Im trying to imply; but TN/Ron's persuasion techniques (I'll call it that) could have ranged from cutting off her supply of whatever to threats of... oh, I-dont-know-what, but whatever it was, apparently she bought it.

moo moo

Yeah...I agree...she BOUGHT IT....all right...

 

[twall]

When was this aired? Because it sounds like the reporter is saying that GMSykes went to the search area and was turned away...on the day LE arrived...so I'm wondering if this was aired one day after the search began? jus asking

After I re-read my first post it seems like I said LE told them to leave on Monday, sorry, I meant Tuesday, I had been up for a long time when I wrote that and my brain wasn't firing too well!

It was aired on the noon news the day the search started, 4/13/10. The family was at the search site that morning and were told to leave as the search was starting. They were also in the area Monday before LE had taken Tommy to the area. Here are links to prove when the clip aired. Why they were at the search area and how they found out about the search was discussed in the same thread soon after the clip aired.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2010.04.13 - New Search for HaLeigh

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2010.04.13 - New Search for HaLeigh

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2010.04.13 - New Search for HaLeigh


AS told the reporter she had been to the area "yesterday" which would be Monday so I stand by my first statement, the NG show was not the first time AS disclosed she was in the search area on Monday but AFAIK it was the first time she revealed how she found out about the search and the area that was to be searched.

 

[Baznme]

Yes...you have a great point....
WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON..for Misty to cooperate/cover for the Cummings???

IMO...I believe the Cummings ...promised marriage..to Ron..and into their family...and it also was to PROTECT a Cummings member...from going to jail..otherwise...nothing else would make sense to me..

IF Misty was innocent of causing Haleigh's death...the promise of marriage would give her a reason..to "go along" with the "story"...A life with Ron perhaps children by him and a happy picture of a loving family..would entice a young girl from a dysfunctional family that she came from..It probably seemed a great idea AT THE TIME..

IF Misty was GUILTY..of causing Haleigh's death...All the Cummings would have turned on her a long time ago..and would NOT want to protect her for killing their grandchild and Ron's little girl..Who would embrace such a person??...That makes no sense to me...IMO..Misty went along with the story/cover up...Ron married her..to keep the "bargain"..and the Cummings protected any negativity regarding Misty..and always spoke in her defense...

UNTIL RON GOT ARRESTED...and then the Cummings/and Ron himself began to slowly turn on her...

IMO...in the beginning of this mess, I believe the Cummings thought this would all slowly go away...but it didn't...and along the way...as this case got more attention..the Cummings wanted to point the finger as Misty being the one who took away Haleigh's life...because the LE was putting Ron under a "microscope"...and getting too close to the truth..

I just cannot see..(based on what I have read/heard..how the Cummings would welcome Misty into their family with open arms, marriage, heirloom jewelry, and all that..if she had taken Haleigh's life..

IMO..she is NOT the perp...but I believe she helped in the cover up..with a promise of marriage...What else would they had promised her...that would have meant more to her than that??? Also this case got sooooo much more attention than they EVER IMAGINED it would...

I hope Misty tells the truth..and not let the Cummings scare her with threats..for doing so..

all in my own opinion and my :twocents:

Amen to everything in bold. It IS the only thing that makes sense. The truth will eventually come out, question is.......when? There's a good while to sit and think about it now that they've all chosen to keep their secrets but the funny thing about the truth.....it always manages to surface when you least expect it.

 

[Crosby87]

Yes...you have a great point....
WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON..for Misty to cooperate/cover for the Cummings???

IMO...I believe the Cummings ...promised marriage..to Ron..and into their family...and it also was to PROTECT a Cummings member...from going to jail..otherwise...nothing else would make sense to me..

IF Misty was innocent of causing Haleigh's death...the promise of marriage would give her a reason..to "go along" with the "story"...A life with Ron perhaps children by him and a happy picture of a loving family..would entice a young girl from a dysfunctional family that she came from..It probably seemed a great idea AT THE TIME..

IF Misty was GUILTY..of causing Haleigh's death...All the Cummings would have turned on her a long time ago..and would NOT want to protect her for killing their grandchild and Ron's little girl..Who would embrace such a person??...That makes no sense to me...

IMO..Misty went along with the story/cover up...Ron married her..to keep the "bargain"..and the Cummings protected any negativity regarding Misty..and always spoke in her defense...

UNTIL RON GOT ARRESTED...and then the Cummings/and Ron himself began to slowly turn on her...

IMO...in the beginning of this mess, I believe the Cummings thought this would all slowly go away...but it didn't...and along the way...as this case got more attention..the Cummings wanted to point the finger as Misty being the one who took away Haleigh's life...because the LE was putting Ron under a "microscope"...and getting too close to the truth..

I just cannot see..(based on what I have read/heard..how the Cummings would welcome Misty into their family with open arms, marriage, heirloom jewelry, and all that..if she had taken Haleigh's life..

IMO..she is NOT the perp...but I believe she helped in the cover up..with a promise of marriage...What else would they had promised her...that would have meant more to her than that??? Also this case got sooooo much more attention than they EVER IMAGINED it would...

I hope Misty tells the truth..and not let the Cummings scare her with threats..for doing so..

all in my own opinion and my :twocents:

The problem I have is Ron's willingness to divorce Misty. If Ron married Misty to keep her quiet, divorce would not have been an option for Ron and he would have stayed married to Misty.

If Ron married Misty to keep her quiet, and TN and AS were aware of his role in HaLeigh’s disappearance, TN, AS and Misty would have talked him out of the divorce in order to protect his secret, but AFAIK, there was no opposition to Ron's decision to divorce Misty.

Ron would have realized that by breaking his promise to Misty, their mutual agreement would no longer be in effect, and unless Misty is dead, another way to prevent her from turning him in to LE would be to pay her a large sum of money.

If Ron refused to pay Misty a large sum of money to keep silent when he wanted out of the marriage, Misty had an opportunity to blackmail Ron, but we know after they divorced, Misty did not have enough money to "start over" and she depended on her family and sold drugs to survive.

Now that they are both incarcerated, if Misty was withholding information from LE about Ron because she fears members of his family would harm her after she was released from jail, she would be eligible for the witness protection program.

IMO, if Misty had information about HaLeigh, and an acceptable agreement wasn't made when Ron divorced Misty, Misty would have "talked" to LE because it gives her an opportunity to get her jail sentence reduced which is her only concern at this point in time.

JMO

 

[1Chump]

The problem I have is Ron's willingness to divorce Misty. If Ron married Misty to keep her quiet, divorce would not have been an option for Ron and he would have stayed married to Misty.
If Ron married Misty to keep her quiet, and TN and AS were aware of his role in HaLeigh’s disappearance, TN, AS and Misty would have talked him out of the divorce in order to protect his secret, but AFAIK, there was no opposition to Ron's decision to divorce Misty.

Ron would have realized that by breaking his promise to Misty, their mutual agreement would no longer be in effect, and unless Misty is dead, another way to prevent her from turning him in to LE would be to pay her a large sum of money.

If Ron refused to pay Misty a large sum of money to keep silent when he wanted out of the marriage, Misty had an opportunity to blackmail Ron, but we know after they divorced, Misty did not have enough money to "start over" and she depended on her family and sold drugs to survive.

Now that they are both incarcerated, if Misty was withholding information from LE about Ron because she fears members of his family would harm her after she was released from jail, she would be eligible for the witness protection program.

IMO, if Misty had information about HaLeigh, and an acceptable agreement wasn't made when Ron divorced Misty, Misty would have called LE before the ink on her divorce papers had a chance to dry because it gives her an opportunity to get her jail sentence reduced which is her only concern at this point in time.

JMO

Misty made the first move to leave Ron. Ron ended up getting arresting for the fight to keep Misty from leaving with her parents and Tommy.

TN admitted that Misty was acting "strange." Misty was going outside to talk on the cell phone where no one could hear her. Misty was acting scared of Ron and did not want to be around him.

What happened between the time Ron was willing to fight Misty's family to keep her and Ron filing for divorce? Tim Miller was called in by TN.

Tim Miller's tests destroyed Misty's credibility. The tests that Tim Miller said Misty at first refused until Ron and/or TN "talked" her into going against her attorneys' advice.

Ron no longer had to try to keep Misty happy because no one would believe her if she talked.

 

[azwriter]

The problem I have is Ron's willingness to divorce Misty. If Ron married Misty to keep her quiet, divorce would not have been an option for Ron and he would have stayed married to Misty.

If Ron married Misty to keep her quiet, and TN and AS were aware of his role in HaLeigh’s disappearance, TN, AS and Misty would have talked him out of the divorce in order to protect his secret, but AFAIK, there was no opposition to Ron's decision to divorce Misty.

Ron would have realized that by breaking his promise to Misty, their mutual agreement would no longer be in effect, and unless Misty is dead, another way to prevent her from turning him in to LE would be to pay her a large sum of money.

If Ron refused to pay Misty a large sum of money to keep silent when he wanted out of the marriage, Misty had an opportunity to blackmail Ron, but we know after they divorced, Misty did not have enough money to "start over" and she depended on her family and sold drugs to survive.

Now that they are both incarcerated, if Misty was withholding information from LE about Ron because she fears members of his family would harm her after she was released from jail, she would be eligible for the witness protection program.

IMO, if Misty had information about HaLeigh, and an acceptable agreement wasn't made when Ron divorced Misty, Misty would have "talked" to LE because it gives her an opportunity to get her jail sentence reduced which is her only concern at this point in time.

JMO

Bluesky thanks for bringing up the subject of divorce. I too have questions about it, maybe more than I have about the sudden marriage.

If the reason for marrying Misty was because Ron and his mom believed Misty could not testify against her husband then once he and TN discovered that would not protect Ron, a divorce might be in order.

But, it seems the divorce came along when LE kept insisting Misty was the "key." I think Ron wanted to get as far away as possible from Misty.

However when it comes to all the schemes for marriage followed not long after with divorce, I believe all these plans came from TN. I do believe she was ringleader on covering what happened to Haleigh.

She was telling Ron what to do and how to appear in public as each of these things occured. I even have visions dancing in my head of TN rehearsing Ron in the livingroom one evening teaching him how to drop to the ground and cry his eyes out because his daughter was missing.

And just why would TN become the chief director of how Ron can maintain his innocence, because TN knows the entire truth about what happened to her grandaughter Haleigh. She's as deep into this ruse as her son is.
jmo