Germanwings Airbus crash 24 March #1

[zwiebel]

People known to be aboard has risen to 150.

 

[CARIIS]

The plane itself :

She was a series 200 in the A320 line. 24 year old aircraft

first flew Nov 1990
147th off the line

Powered by 2x CFM56-5 engines


Recent history

2015-03-24	Barcelona (BCN)	Dusseldorf (DUS)	4U9525	Canceled
2015-03-24	Dusseldorf (DUS)	Barcelona (BCN)	4U9524	Landed 07:57
2015-03-23	Madrid (MAD)	Dusseldorf (DUS)	4U9515	Landed 21:28
2015-03-23	Dusseldorf (DUS)	Madrid (MAD)	4U9514	Landed 17:58
2015-03-22	Berlin (TXL)	Dusseldorf (DUS)	4U9045	Landed 20:49
2015-03-22	Dusseldorf (DUS)	Berlin (TXL)	4U9044	Landed 18:48
2015-03-22	London (LHR)	Dusseldorf (DUS)	4U9465	Landed 17:03
2015-03-22	Dusseldorf (DUS)	London (LHR)	4U9464	Landed 15:05
2015-03-22	Palma de Mallorca (PMI)	Dusseldorf (DUS)	4U9587	Landed 12:53
2015-03-22	Dusseldorf (DUS)	Palma de Mallorca (PMI)	4U9586	Landed 09:50
2015-03-21	Las Palmas (LPA)	Dusseldorf (DUS)	4U5101	Landed 16:17
2015-03-21	Dusseldorf (DUS)	Las Palmas (LPA)	4U5102	Landed 10:43

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Crashed 24. Mar 2015 en route Barcelona, Spain (BCN) to Dusseldorf, Germany (DUS) in Southern France as flight 4U9525 with 142 passengers and 6 crew on board[/TD]
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http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Airbus/A320/147,D-AIPX-Germanwings.php

From 1991 2003 she flew for Luth.
She was then 2003-04 flew as a GermanWIngs aircraft
Form 2004-15 she went back to serving the main carrier
in 2014 she went back to flying for the subisdary of Luth Germanwings

 

[zwiebel]

Photographs of scenes at the airport. Heartbreaking.

http://www.usatoday.com/picture-gal...senger-plane-crashes-in-french-alps/70365524/

 

[zwiebel]

President Hollande said it was unknown if residences could be affected, but a local says the area is very remote and there are no residences. Also says he saw many, many fire trucks on the way there but the area is particularly difficult to access.

Most of the victims are thought to be German.

'We know all the passengers are dead' (rescuer near site). He says the amount of snow is the biggest problem.

(From BBC radio)

 

[zwiebel]

"We heard a strange noise...a deep noise, like an earthquake. I was working and did not think anymore, then someone came and told us there had been a plane crash." (Nearby resident)

Weather conditions were good. An expert, Chris Yates, is saying this "sounds like mechanical failure".

( BBC radio.)

 

[Dockins]

My DH is a commercial pilot here in the US, and everyone of these tragedies hits home. I am still more afraid to drive than fly. German pilots are very skilled, and being well into he flight at cruising altitude, I suspect something was wrong with he aircraft.

 

[CARIIS]

Msnbc passengers had 13 minutes knowing things aint ok

here is her altitude minute by minute:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAIPX/history/20150324/0835Z/LEBL/EDDL/tracklog

For two minutes her data went blank

looks like the biggest drop was 4800 feet in one minute

 

[zwiebel]

I can't help hoping for a miracle or two. Deep snow can sometimes mean survivors in crashes. It seems very unlikely though. Parts of the crash are also in a forest, adding to the difficulties.

 

[jslk]

How long does it typically take for a flight manifest to become available?

 

[zwiebel]

DW (English) (@dw_english) tweeted at 2:22pm - 24 Mar 15:

LIVE UPDATES: Passengers on #Germanwings flight - German, Turkish and Spanish victims dw.de/p/1Ew3z pic.twitter.com/IkBeB4rKju (https://twitter.com/dw_english/status/580358972311498753?s=17)

 

[zwiebel]

RT (@RT_com) tweeted at 2:03pm - 24 Mar 15:

Rescue teams near #4U9525 crash site on.rt.com/besjt3 (pics via @ActuSecours) #Germanwings pic.twitter.com/IDeO1SpaM4 (https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/580354367796166656?s=17)

 

[cuffem]

Msnbc passengers had 13 minutes knowing things aint ok

here is her altitude minute by minute:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAIPX/history/20150324/0835Z/LEBL/EDDL/tracklog

For two minutes her data went blank

looks like the biggest drop was 4800 feet in one minute

Ugh! the terror.Sounds like they encountered strong turbulance entering the alps and could not recover.

 

[jslk]

The presenters on BBC rolling news just now seemed to suggest that the plane's route was 'much further to the east" than expected - can anyone comment on this?


Was the plane expected to fly along the red line on the map? Hmmm.

 

[FranP]

BBC live reporting on their website has this screen shot showing the plane climbed to 38,000 feet, then descended, until the signal was lost at 6,800 feet.

Thoughts are with family and friends of everyone on board.

 

[zwiebel]

There was no obvious reason why the plane went down. Capt. Benoit Zeisser of the Digne-le-Bains police said there were some clouds in the region but the cloud ceiling was not low and there did not appear to be turbulence.

http://abc7.com/news/likely-no-survivors-after-airbus-a320-crashes-in-france/570632/

 

[zwiebel]

Welcome to WS, FranP.

 

[cuffem]

The presenters on BBC rolling news just now seemed to suggest that the plane's route was 'much further to the east" than expected - can anyone comment on this?
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Was the plane expected to fly along the red line on the map? Hmmm.

I believe that is the original path prior to this flight.

 

[FranP]

Welcome to WS, FranP.

Thank you :cheers:

 

[CARIIS]

How long does it typically take for a flight manifest to become available?

it will be timely! Luth runs a very very sophisticated and sharp operation- MAL spoiled all that ! Should be soon

 

[Dockins]

The presenters on BBC rolling news just now seemed to suggest that the plane's route was 'much further to the east" than expected - can anyone comment on this?
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Was the plane expected to fly along the red line on the map? Hmmm.

Sometimes, a Captain can request a deviation from the original plan. I know I have seen this mostly because of weather or air conditions. On flight aware, it will show the expected route before a flight, and it can sometimes change during the flight. I hope this makes sense. I can ask DH more when he lands.