I can link you to about two dozen major federal cases between 2004 all the way to last year where narcotics/sex trafficking, racketeering, money laundering conspiracy cases came down on 2 specific crime families plus Bloods, Latin Kings and one particular 1%er motorcycle club in the tri-state area alone.
Or the NJ/NY lawyer whose firm in the early aughts was representing major gang & LCN clients and, not randomly, also one of the biggest NYC escort services (possibly to date...think the Spitzer snafu) that also provided coke to major clients (Ruis was nothing compared to this guy) out of his own office, who is now in prison (for life I believe) for arranging to have multiple witnesses murdered - literally he did this as a lawyer himself - for different clients he was representing.
Cartels, gangs and LCN usually dispose of bodies the way we see alot of the bodies in this case. Dismemberment is not just for serial killers. Think DeMeo/Guglielmo (the latter of which should ring a bell
@Bose ... think The Film Center Building in Manhattan)
In that same vein of thought, the Fountain Avenue Garbage Dump was notorious for certain groups dumping bodies - it straddled the Brooklyn/Queens border...almost like how we see a conscious effort to dispose of victims' bodies between Nassau and Suffolk.
And now I'm just going to lay everything out as far as I can see
In my opinion, daft as it may be, Shannan was something different.
She didn't die naturally but she's in a separate category, a very difficult place.
If youre barely into your twenties, facing a major federal case as a co-defendant, not sure whether the "good" guys or the "bad" guys are more of a threat, or even who the "good" vs "bad" guys are, and both of them are breathing down your neck, you run for your life.
She did that.
Not bc she was having a psychotic break but bc she was swimming in the deep end and had no life preserver.
Shannan was collateral damage of a broken judicial system especially when it comes to CIs or Cooperating witnesses..
Manorville and Brooklyn I have some knowledge on but not enough to speak on it.
I know there are many on here that do.
The GB4? Was a very particular message to someone who would immediately understand it when it was discovered, which was not accidental imo.
There was an extra step taken w the GB4 - the thing they all had in common when they were found. Think about that one very specific thing all the talking heads reported on when the case broke and every network was showing those aerial views and Nancy Grace was oinking and squealing in feigned horror - the thing that made everyone take notice bc it was so very specific and theories were flying - nurseries, clams, coffee beans, erosion control?
If someone who felt that they or someone close to them, whether an individual or organization, was slighted by Suffolk and wanted to leave a big F you right in their backyard, that one thing that was plastered all over the media about how the GB4 were found, that very specific extra step that was taken- it echoes wayy back to something that happened decades ago in Suffolk County.
Ever since I wrote "talking heads" about all the news reporters barking about the bodies, I can't get this out of my mind...I feel like it's kind of appropriate, in a really creepy way, because in many ways, it is and always will be, same as it ever was.
And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself in another part of the world
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife
And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?"
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again, after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground
And you may ask yourself, "How do I work this?"
And you may ask yourself, "Where is that large automobile?"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful house"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful wife"
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again, after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Water dissolving and water removing
There is water at the bottom of the ocean
Under the water, carry the water
Remove the water from the bottom of the ocean
Water dissolving and water removing
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again, into the silent water
Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Leting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again, after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground
You may ask yourself, "What is that beautiful house?"
You may ask yourself, "Where does that highway go to?"
And you may ask yourself, "Am I right, am I wrong?"
And you may say to yourself, "My God, what have I done?"
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again, into the silent water
Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again, after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was