Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #14

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• Folge lief am 19. Nov. 2016
• TV-14
• 42 Min.
• In the wake of Shannan Gilbert's funeral, family lawyer John Ray presents Josh and Rachel with confidential testimony that implicates a local doctor and Oak Beach resident in the death of the young escort.

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What is this AND in 2016 already? Look at the cast: without pic - RH - Self (voice) (rumored).

Is it common knowledge that a fellow WS member was a part of this episode? It's also been speculated that RH was here on WS keeping tabs. I suppose now that RHs' IP address has been revealed, WS mods would be able to look into it. Or have they? JMO FWIW.

 

[MomInsomniac]

I’ve thought of that from the first time I laid eyes on it. It seems too large to fit into the basement. I thought maybe at one time it was a swingset. But yes, it is the right size for big posts. I can’t see it being moved easily though.

He wouldn’t need to move it when the trees were full. In the one picture posted prior to the frame being moved out in the open, you likely wouldn’t be able to see who/what RH may have had hanging from it. He could have used the guise of dressing a deer to explain any blood etc if it were questioned. I hope the police searched every inch of that structure for DNA as well as the ground under the covered tree area. If not, IMO they need to return.

 

[dotr]

yes someone called into the show that sounded like RH

'Jul 28, 2023
There's speculation swirling as to whether Rex Heuermann may have called a documentary filmmaker seven years ago in an attempt to pin the serial killings on somebody else. Producer Josh Zeman was making a documentary about the Gilgo Beach murders. He says his office got a voicemail from someone who claims to know the killer. He now thinks the caller may have been Heuermann himself trying to point the finger at an innocent man. Inside Edition's Ann Mercogliano has more.'

 

[LadyL]

'Jul 28, 2023
There's speculation swirling as to whether Rex Heuermann may have called a documentary filmmaker seven years ago in an attempt to pin the serial killings on somebody else. Producer Josh Zeman was making a documentary about the Gilgo Beach murders. He says his office got a voicemail from someone who claims to know the killer. He now thinks the caller may have been Heuermann himself trying to point the finger at an innocent man. Inside Edition's Ann Mercogliano has more.'

yep I had two screens open with his interview on one and the audio of the call to Josh on the other and had my husband listening to see what he thought

 

[snarast]

'Jul 28, 2023
There's speculation swirling as to whether Rex Heuermann may have called a documentary filmmaker seven years ago in an attempt to pin the serial killings on somebody else. Producer Josh Zeman was making a documentary about the Gilgo Beach murders. He says his office got a voicemail from someone who claims to know the killer. He now thinks the caller may have been Heuermann himself trying to point the finger at an innocent man. Inside Edition's Ann Mercogliano has more.'

I don’t think it’s him. Because of the less nasal tone of RH who has a more guttural sound to his speech. But the high pitch is similar.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

I don’t think it’s him. Because of the less nasal tone of RH who has a more guttural sound to his speech. But the high pitch is similar.

Would have liked to see the voice analysis results, the specialist giving his opinion, with no “science” not convincing.

 

[Inthedetails]

Would have liked to see the voice analysis results, the specialist giving his opinion, with no “science” not convincing.

I think the accent matches, but that just pinpoints the caller as someone from Long Island. I don't think it's impossible that the caller is RH, but I'm not 100% convinced. It's eerie though.

jmo

 

[eishish]

I don’t think it’s him. Because of the less nasal tone of RH who has a more guttural sound to his speech. But the high pitch is similar.

Yikes, he got credits too on imdb??, plus, what was the phone number Josh dialed. So incriminating. Ty for the share. Diabolical. Cells, landlines his big mistakes. Similar to btk with the ip address

 

[snooptroop88]

'Jul 28, 2023
There's speculation swirling as to whether Rex Heuermann may have called a documentary filmmaker seven years ago in an attempt to pin the serial killings on somebody else. Producer Josh Zeman was making a documentary about the Gilgo Beach murders. He says his office got a voicemail from someone who claims to know the killer. He now thinks the caller may have been Heuermann himself trying to point the finger at an innocent man. Inside Edition's Ann Mercogliano has more.'

I agree that really might be him. When I listened to RH's voice in his architectural interview, I even wondered then because I'd already seen "Killing Season." Could be. Grateful to @dotr posting this here because usually I have to pull the clips separately. Certain bits of wording sound like RH. And he undoubtedly tried to alter his voice to some extent. If they had a phone number to call him back, will that phone turn up in RH's mountain of seized devices?

Has it already and we simply don't know yet?

 

[snooptroop88]

For those who still think RH’s "Thawk080672" may be referencing a location with "Tomahawk," here's something kind of interesting. A profile of Red Tomahawk was on the highway signs in all of North Dakota from 1923-2016. Here's what that would have looked like:

Probably pretty memorable for someone who roadtripped through NDakota at any point. Checked into North Dakota unsolved cases and found Michele Julson reported missing from Bismarck Aug 5 1994, 5'6" 155lbs Last seen at her grandfather's 8/2. But someone thought they did see her afterwards: "She was reportedly seen by a friend at WeFest, an outdoor country music festival in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota, on August 5; she was allegedly in the company of a man named 'Tom' who drove a black four-by-four Chevrolet”

1990DFND - Michele May Julson

In light of what we know about RH, that's kind of creepy, so I wondered about the 08/06/72. 08/06 would have been the day after she was spotted (maybe?) at this music festival in MN with "Tom" who had a dark 4x4 Chevy. But what about the "72" in this scenario? That's not her dob. There is an Enchanted Highway in NDakota, and it's a must-see for roadtrippers. Source: "Located in western North Dakota, these larger-than-life roadside attractions span a 32-mile stretch of highway and are truly a sight to behold.... this collection of scrap metal sculptures draws thousands of visitors to rural North Dakota each year." A couple of these massive sculptures would already have been up in 1994, and I have no doubt any tourist traveling through saw them. Over the years, many more were added, including this one at exit72/Gladstone ND (erected 2001):

With RH’s extensive travels and interests in duck hunting, I can’t help but wonder about this. Enchanted Highway is just over an hour away from Bismarck, and it is desolate. Probably the reason they have these enormous structures is they know how seldom those passing through would ever get out of their vehicles. This particular statue wouldn’t have been up in ’94, but he may have seen it or read about it since, and a couple of the other statues were up in ‘94.

Michele Julson worked as a blackjack dealer, just as Maureen Brainard Barnes had. MBB was for a time a blackjack dealer at Foxwoods casino in AC. It's curious.

 

[Ruminations]

I don’t think it’s him. Because of the less nasal tone of RH who has a more guttural sound to his speech. But the high pitch is similar.

I think it was him.

But that is just an amateur opinion.

I bet LE knows definitively.

MOO

 

[eishish]

I think it was him.

But that is just an amateur opinion.

I bet LE knows definitively.

MOO

What the heck # did he use?

 

[Onlyguessing23]

For those who still think RH’s "Thawk080672" may be referencing a location with "Tomahawk," here's something kind of interesting. A profile of Red Tomahawk was on the highway signs in all of North Dakota from 1923-2016. Here's what that would have looked like:
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Probably pretty memorable for someone who roadtripped through NDakota at any point. Checked into North Dakota unsolved cases and found Michele Julson reported missing from Bismarck Aug 5 1994, 5'6" 155lbs Last seen at her grandfather's 8/2. But someone thought they did see her afterwards: "She was reportedly seen by a friend at WeFest, an outdoor country music festival in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota, on August 5; she was allegedly in the company of a man named 'Tom' who drove a black four-by-four Chevrolet”

1990DFND - Michele May Julson

In light of what we know about RH, that's kind of creepy, so I wondered about the 08/06/72. 08/06 would have been the day after she was spotted (maybe?) at this music festival in MN with "Tom" who had a dark 4x4 Chevy. But what about the "72" in this scenario? That's not her dob. There is an Enchanted Highway in NDakota, and it's a must-see for roadtrippers. Source: "Located in western North Dakota, these larger-than-life roadside attractions span a 32-mile stretch of highway and are truly a sight to behold.... this collection of scrap metal sculptures draws thousands of visitors to rural North Dakota each year." A couple of these massive sculptures would already have been up in 1994, and I have no doubt any tourist traveling through saw them. Over the years, many more were added, including this one at exit72/Gladstone ND (erected 2001):
View attachment 515606
With RH’s extensive travels and interests in duck hunting, I can’t help but wonder about this. Enchanted Highway is just over an hour away from Bismarck, and it is desolate. Probably the reason they have these enormous structures is they know how seldom those passing through would ever get out of their vehicles. This particular statue wouldn’t have been up in ’94, but he may have seen it or read about it since, and a couple of the other statues were up in ‘94.

Michele Julson worked as a blackjack dealer, just as Maureen Brainard Barnes had. MBB was for a time a blackjack dealer at Foxwoods casino in AC. It's curious.

Your theory is particularly compelling to me.
In keeping with the idea that he may have traveled, I found a few cases in the NY State database that might be part of a pattern, involving the towns:
Wallkill, NY
Killawog, NY
Hunter, NY (near Hunter-Westkill Wilderness) (Hunter was also listed as one of his account names)

Wallkill victim was Megan McDonald, 3/15/2003. RH listed Megan as a target in his document (T-1).

Homicide Victim: McDonald, Megan

On 03/15/03, Megan McDonald, age 20, was found murdered in a field in the Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York.

troopers.ny.gov

Megan McDonald Murder: Arrest Made in 20-Year Cold Case Killing of NYPD Detective's Daughter

A 42-year-old New York man has been arrested in the 2003 murder of Megan McDonald, whose baffling case featured on “Dateline” ahead of the solemn 20-year anniversary of her death. New York State Police announced Thursday that Edward Holley, of Wawayanda in Orange County, had been charged with...

www.nbcnewyork.com

Killawog victim Bethanie Dougherty, 4/1/2008 - this struck me:

“A mid- to late-1990s Chevrolet S-10 pickup truck was sighted near Dougherty's home at around the time she disappeared, but it's unclear whether it was related to her case“

Bethanie Lynne Dougherty – The Charley Project

Hunter, NY victim 8/15/2002 unidentified remains.

Unidentified: Town of Hunter, Greene County

Remains Found: 08/15/2002 Location: Platte Clove Rd Hunter, New York

troopers.ny.gov

I may have ventured too far here (in many ways). Feel free to reel me back in.

 

[snarast]

I think it was him.

But that is just an amateur opinion.

I bet LE knows definitively.

MOO

Yep, some people can change their affects to a great extent. plus body positioning and health will have an effect on the sound produced as well.

Total amateur here too.

 

[Inthedetails]

Your theory is particularly compelling to me.
In keeping with the idea that he may have traveled, I found a few cases in the NY State database that might be part of a pattern, involving the towns:
Wallkill, NY
Killawog, NY
Hunter, NY (near Hunter-Westkill Wilderness) (Hunter was also listed as one of his account names)

Wallkill victim was Megan McDonald, 3/15/2003. RH listed Megan as a target in his document (T-1).

Homicide Victim: McDonald, Megan

On 03/15/03, Megan McDonald, age 20, was found murdered in a field in the Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York.

troopers.ny.gov

Megan McDonald Murder: Arrest Made in 20-Year Cold Case Killing of NYPD Detective's Daughter

A 42-year-old New York man has been arrested in the 2003 murder of Megan McDonald, whose baffling case featured on “Dateline” ahead of the solemn 20-year anniversary of her death. New York State Police announced Thursday that Edward Holley, of Wawayanda in Orange County, had been charged with...

www.nbcnewyork.com

Killawog victim Bethanie Dougherty, 4/1/2008 - this struck me:

“A mid- to late-1990s Chevrolet S-10 pickup truck was sighted near Dougherty's home at around the time she disappeared, but it's unclear whether it was related to her case“

Bethanie Lynne Dougherty – The Charley Project

Hunter, NY victim 8/15/2002 unidentified remains.

Unidentified: Town of Hunter, Greene County

Remains Found: 08/15/2002 Location: Platte Clove Rd Hunter, New York

troopers.ny.gov

I may have ventured too far here (in many ways). Feel free to reel me back in.

There are several place names "kill" in NY. It's from an old Dutch word (the early European settlers were Dutch in this area) that means "stream."

Maybe the word thrilled him, but it doesn't actually mean "kill."

jmo