Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #14

[Inthedetails]

Tidbits from lengthy article.

NY Firefighter: How I Realized My Neighbor Was a Suspected Serial Killer

Firefighter Etienne de Villiers spent three decades living next door to Rex Heuermann, who would later become notorious as the suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer.

www.thedailybeast.com

Michael Daly​

Jul. 06, 2024
''Heuermann invariably made reference to his size.

“Every time, you’d talk to the guy, he’d throw that in; ‘Me being six-five, 250,’” de Villiers recalled.''
Heuermann asked de Villiers several times if he played cards. De Villiers lied and said no.''

''De Villiers recalled that Heuermann had two or three friends who came by occasionally early on, but they were scruffier than typical Massapequa residents, many of whom are cops and other firefighters.
“They seemed a pretty low life type,” de Villiers said. “You could pick them up and put them in a trailer park.”

''During a few random encounters, de Villiers found Craig to be “a nasty and mean *advertiser censored*.” Heuermann was by the firefighter’s experience “kind of a wuss.”

''He saw Christopher preparing to cut it with an antiquated rotary mower that looked considerably older than Christopher himself.
De Villiers had learned over the years that the son was not fond of physical labor, and the lawn seemed a challenge. The firefighter’s heart went out to the son of the accused serial killer.''

The rotary mower was likely older than Rex, let alone older than Christopher. My dad had a rotary mower too that he "inherited" from my grandfather - and I'm around Rex' age. I remember my older siblings pooling their money to buy a gas-powered mower when they were teenagers, lol.

I bet that mower was the same one Rex used in the same yard as a kid. No upgrades for his family over the years at that house.

jmo

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Asa's comments were neutral at first. At least the quote is, although Rodney Harrison described more emotion that the words do, when separated from a voice.

It is strange to go over a year from "It is what it is," to "He's not capable."

There is so much information in the media and the charging documents. I would think it's more natural to go from "He's not capable," to "It is what it is," over time than the other way around.

Or to go from "He's not capable," to "He is being framed/scapgoated."

I could see going from "It is what it is," (IIWII) to "He did very bad things," because to me it's a progression from denial to acceptance of the information. But to go from IIWII to "he's not capable" doesn't feel like a natural progression. Nobody has to start in denial that a person is not capable. None of the information that has come out between July 13 2023 and today would contribute to the theory that Rex is not capable. The information that would support that hypothesis would have been prior to the date she said "IIWII."

MOO

Yes, this seems to be on the mark. And IMO much of what the spouse and the lawyer says could be influenced by the impending ‘docu-drama’ in which the spouse is supposed to appear. And for that reason I am not inclined to put much stock in what is said publicly by them or on their behalf. Perhaps much more will be clear once court filings and other evidence and investigation proceeds. MOO

 

[Just K]

On a hunch, I tried to find a murder victim whose birthday was 080672. I have ruled out Karen Vergata, Rita, Colleen, Sandra, Valerie Mack, and the GB4 as well as Jessica. I looked at missing/murdered cases for LI 1992- thinking that he might kill a 20 year old. I have yet to find anyone. That number meant something to him because he used it as a fictitious birthday for Andy Roberts to get the Hunter email as well as part of the thawk080672 email account.
My guess, if I were to speculate, would be whoever this date refers to could be the B-day for his first murder victim. Or it’s a date that he first witnessed a murder. He would’ve been about 10 or 11 on August 6, 1972. Then again, maybe it was his first big hunting trip. I’ll keep digging.

 

[eishish]

On a hunch, I tried to find a murder victim whose birthday was 080672. I have ruled out Karen Vergata, Rita, Colleen, Sandra, Valerie Mack, and the GB4 as well as Jessica. I looked at missing/murdered cases for LI 1992- thinking that he might kill a 20 year old. I have yet to find anyone. That number meant something to him because he used it as a fictitious birthday for Andy Roberts to get the Hunter email as well as part of the thawk080672 email account.
My guess, if I were to speculate, would be whoever this date refers to could be the B-day for his first murder victim. Or it’s a date that he first witnessed a murder. He would’ve been about 10 or 11 on August 6, 1972. Then again, maybe it was his first big hunting trip. I’ll keep digging.

He was born feb 13, 64, some list him as sept, as quoted below correcting me, 8 yrs behind is 72. Hunting sounds good. Def was important to him. Will check andy, roberts birth months and year. I figured thawk means hit, andy his middle name, the andy, roberts body finders...also, he could have started 1st grade in 8, 6, 72

 

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What is this AND in 2016 already? Look at the cast: without pic - RH - Self (voice) (rumored).

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[eishish]

I can't watch the video right now. What is groundbreaking? tia

Groundbreaking in 2018, created to id sex traffic, the multi juris task force. Sorry took forever. It was misunderstood by a member, my response

 

[Just K]

He was born 64, 8 yrs behind is 72. Hunting sounds good. Def was important to him. Will check andy, roberts birth months and year. I figured thawk means hit, andy his middle name, the andy, roberts body finders...also, he could have started 1st grade in 8, 6, 72

He was born Sept 1963 and graduated HS in 1981. He is currently 60 years and 10 months old.

 

[Just K]

Here’s an interesting tidbit. A Derrick Decker was associated with his mom’s 18 Zephyr Rd address in Palmyra, VA. https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/address/18-zephyr-rd_palmyra-va-22963

 

[eishish]

He was born Sept 1963 and graduated HS in 1981. He is currently 60 years and 10 moths

He was born Sept 1963 and graduated HS in 1981. He is currently 60 years and 10 months old.

Multi listings as birth date are given

 

[snooptroop88]

On a hunch, I tried to find a murder victim whose birthday was 080672. I have ruled out Karen Vergata, Rita, Colleen, Sandra, Valerie Mack, and the GB4 as well as Jessica. I looked at missing/murdered cases for LI 1992- thinking that he might kill a 20 year old. I have yet to find anyone. That number meant something to him because he used it as a fictitious birthday for Andy Roberts to get the Hunter email as well as part of the thawk080672 email account.
My guess, if I were to speculate, would be whoever this date refers to could be the B-day for his first murder victim. Or it’s a date that he first witnessed a murder. He would’ve been about 10 or 11 on August 6, 1972. Then again, maybe it was his first big hunting trip. I’ll keep digging.

Same here, I've also checked for missing individuals dob, it's not always available. If RH is a Cottingham follower, Cottingham supposedly confessed (don't know that it's believed) to the murder of Jeanette DePalma. But regardless of the Cottingham factor, Jeannette DePalma's was a highly publicized case when it occurred. She was reported missing Aug 7, 1972. She was murdered in Springfield Township, NJ. I've located no dob for a murder victim or missing individual with 08/06/1972. Have wondered if the entire 080672 sequence could be a reference to a postal code, a phone number, something with an address. I've wondered if the numbers are something of a mix with the Aug 6 referring to the date of the murder and the "72" something completely different, maybe a route/highway/interstate or address related number. Have wondered if it's a relative of RH's dob. Or maybe the date of a relative's death. RH would be about 9 yo in 1972

08067 is a postal code in NJ, and it's in a very rural area with desolate pockets. Pretty sure the Delaware River ends in that postal code.

So far, my best guess is the 080672 is a mix. Maybe the August 6 is date of murder, the "72" could be the year of victim's birth, something related to an address, no way to know. I'd wonder if the 72 might not reference a route or highway exit number.

 

[Onlyguessing23]

Same here, I've also checked for missing individuals dob, it's not always available. If RH is a Cottingham follower, Cottingham supposedly confessed (don't know that it's believed) to the murder of Jeanette DePalma. But regardless of the Cottingham factor, Jeannette DePalma's was a highly publicized case when it occurred. She was reported missing Aug 7, 1972. She was murdered in Springfield Township, NJ. I've located no dob for a murder victim or missing individual with 08/06/1972. Have wondered if the entire 080672 sequence could be a reference to a postal code, a phone number, something with an address. I've wondered if the numbers are something of a mix with the Aug 6 referring to the date of the murder and the "72" something completely different, maybe a route/highway/interstate or address related number. Have wondered if it's a relative of RH's dob. Or maybe the date of a relative's death. RH would be about 9 yo in 1972

08067 is a postal code in NJ, and it's in a very rural area with desolate pockets. Pretty sure the Delaware River ends in that postal code.

So far, my best guess is the 080672 is a mix. Maybe the August 6 is date of murder, the "72" could be the year of victim's birth, something related to an address, no way to know. I'd wonder if the 72 might not reference a route or highway exit number.

I looked -to the best of my ability - for anything with this sequence in NY building codes. Nothing.

I know nothing about guns, but 8672 is a Ruger model.

 

[Onlyguessing23]

Another thing, relooking at the HK 2002-2004 document “blueprint” in the PREP section he lists CROSS BAR. Maybe part of a setup for his truck?

 

[eishish]

I looked -to the best of my ability - for anything with this sequence in NY building codes. Nothing.

I know nothing about guns, but 8672 is a Ruger model.

Yes, like the 9mm, the knife, and this. Will correlate later. So good

 

[snooptroop88]

I looked -to the best of my ability - for anything with this sequence in NY building codes. Nothing.

I know nothing about guns, but 8672 is a Ruger model.

Hotel room number, maybe? In a mix of numbers, maybe a room 72 where the murder occurred 8/6?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

So many of the places for hunting very close. Believe you have max 3 hours. Enough time. Surely he wld not multi use a swing, deer, person hoist...ugh. the chains my have been removed for dna, but wheres the two person swing or swings...and the eyes for the ropes, evidence possibly..dna certainly would transfer. Ground collected for blood? We have a month to see him again and any news, or sooner. That bluprint sure has been gone over here. Completely

Three hours is a decent amount of time. But even using a large four wheeler with a rack or a deer dolly to transport the deer to a waiting truck, it's incredibly laborious and rather time consuming. Maybe his hunting mates are fitter than RH, idk??

How large is the back yard? If he did dress the deer at home, I wonder if he got a big kick out of freaking out the neighbors?

This case is so disturbing. I'm convinced that they've just scratched the surface. I hope the breaks in the case keep coming.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

On a hunch, I tried to find a murder victim whose birthday was 080672. I have ruled out Karen Vergata, Rita, Colleen, Sandra, Valerie Mack, and the GB4 as well as Jessica. I looked at missing/murdered cases for LI 1992- thinking that he might kill a 20 year old. I have yet to find anyone. That number meant something to him because he used it as a fictitious birthday for Andy Roberts to get the Hunter email as well as part of the thawk080672 email account.
My guess, if I were to speculate, would be whoever this date refers to could be the B-day for his first murder victim. Or it’s a date that he first witnessed a murder. He would’ve been about 10 or 11 on August 6, 1972. Then again, maybe it was his first big hunting trip. I’ll keep digging.

When is AE's birthday?

 

[FromGermany1]

When is AE's birthday?

I don't know her birthday, but when RH got arrested, afaik she was 59yo. Can't be born in 1972.

 

[FromGermany1]

Here’s an interesting tidbit. A Derrick Decker was associated with his mom’s 18 Zephyr Rd address in Palmyra, VA. https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/address/18-zephyr-rd_palmyra-va-22963

Maybe the "Derrick", RH had taken to or from the airport (in his notes)?

 

[FromGermany1]

Anyone can edit imdb

Interesting to know. Thanks!

 

[eishish]

I looked -to the best of my ability - for anything with this sequence in NY building codes. Nothing.

I know nothing about guns, but 8672 is a Ruger model.

Heckler koch knife hk2002, there is a glock reference, also id'd was a heckler koch 9mm handgun along with this ruger 8672! It fits in with hunter, hit, Andy, sandbaggers aka misleaders. All relates to him/ his interests. Great id imo, moo