Group Plans Memorial Walkway For Caylee

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"....in Florida".

I think in a few yrs the traffic will die down and people will quit going there. I know if I lived on that street I wouldnt want a memorial park where a dead child was found.
I think a better ide would be a pretty garden with a plaque of Caylees name, etc in some nice park.
That place was not a happy place for Caylee:(
But, if theyre bound and determined o do it instead of taking peoples donations for bricks they should first see if that land can even be developed on. Swamp still floods. My son lived in a beautiful apt bldg and had been built on swamp land and any hurricane warning and they were told to evacuate. The place still flooded during hurricanes, etc.

Lambchop, the best time to look for a house in FL is during a heavy rain. You can see how vulnerable the area is to flooding....
 
:back: I'm trying to backtrack and read all media accounts of the memorial plan unveiling. It doesn't appear any representative from BKH was in attendance at the unveiling. From this Orlando Sentinel article, an artist named Jefre was on hand, who designed it. I'd love to know who from BKH has been working with him.

Also, I'm not sure if the Anthonys know much about the planned memorial. This article doesn't say they're working with anyone from BKH, just that they support the idea.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...orial-plans-revealed-20110808,0,2265952.story
If there's money to be made, you can be sure the Anthonys know all about it. But this thread is not about the Anthonys, so I will end with that thought.
 
If there's money to be made, you can be sure the Anthonys know all about it. But this thread is not about the Anthonys, so I will end with that thought.

I don't believe that for a second. Until I see evidence that the A's are money hungry, as so many say, I won't believe it. I simply want to know the truth about this organization.
 
Please check your PMs. I have previewed your email and it is fine to post here.

Question however....

I also reviewed a link to a doc you provided in post earlier to a 2009 IRS Form 900 filing for BKH in which Tim Segura notes twice on document that organization was currently being set up in 2009?

From: Tim <tim@bringkidshome.org>
Subject: *BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT INQUIRY
To: MY EMAIL
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006, 5:19 PM

We are interested in funding your mobile web cam, if you are looking for funding, please have your represenative contact me. The best way to reach me is via email.

regards,


Tim E. Segura
---------------------------------------------------
Director of Strategic Alliances
BringKidsHome.org
New York U.S.A.
973.670.1835
tim@bringkidshome.org




Question part - see post by What's that clue and link:
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocument...06186014-Z.pdf
 
From: Tim <tim@bringkidshome.org>
Subject: *BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT INQUIRY
To: MY EMAIL
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006, 5:19 PM

We are interested in funding your mobile web cam, if you are looking for funding, please have your represenative contact me. The best way to reach me is via email.

regards,


Tim E. Segura
---------------------------------------------------
Director of Strategic Alliances
BringKidsHome.org
New York U.S.A.
973.670.1835
tim@bringkidshome.org




Question part - see post by What's that clue and link:
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocument...06186014-Z.pdf

Director of Strategic Alliances... HAH!

I just tried to call the number listed under Tim's name. It rang to a girl's voicemail.. sounded like that name was "Charlize Snyder".
 
Well, yes and no (bolded bit). You can't build on it as is, of course, but if you use enough fill dirt to raise it up enough to eliminate flooding, you can then build on it. But using fill dirt above certain levels raises the real possibility (probably even likelihood) that you'd kill many of the surrounding trees indigenous to FL. Southern/yellow pines, Live Oaks, etc. do not like dirt piled up too high around their trunks and they show it by dying fairly rapidly (e.g., Live Oaks....quite revered in FL...can't even tolerate more than a few inches of fill dirt at the base of their trunks). Another thing to think about is how sandy the soil is in that particular area. I have no clue about that, but I do live in FL and know that much of the State's soil is quite sandy, even inland as Orlando is. The point is, the land can be filled, but not without risk to the surrounding wooded growth, and it must remain sandy enough to allow drainage but no so sandy that it can't be built on.

Oh, and I don't know if there are any municipal tree laws in that area, but there are in our area, and we can't take down ANY Live Oaks and many other types of trees without permission from the city, and that is VERY hard to get.

And the whole zoning issue (i.e., building a non-residential structure in a residential area)........that's going to be a very tough hurdle to overcome in the first place.

I just don't see this happening.

And this doesn't even touch the political 'explosives' associated with putting the memorial so near an elementary school in the first place. Nope, I just don't see it happening. Okay by me. :D

http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap4/default.aspx?pin=302313129000021

On the map the land is listed as "Vacant HOA". Is this land held by the Homeowners Assoc.?

You are right about filling in that area. They'd have to fill in the whole wooded area on that side of the street and the other land belongs to the county. It appears they are proposing to build the walkway on a platform which I would imagine will eventually be flooded and repair of the damage would require constant upkeep. jmo
 
From: Tim <tim@bringkidshome.org>
Subject: *BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT INQUIRY
To: MY EMAIL
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006, 5:19 PM

We are interested in funding your mobile web cam, if you are looking for funding, please have your represenative contact me. The best way to reach me is via email.

regards,


Tim E. Segura
---------------------------------------------------
Director of Strategic Alliances
BringKidsHome.org
New York U.S.A.
973.670.1835
tim@bringkidshome.org




Question part - see post by What's that clue and link:
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocument...06186014-Z.pdf

Interesting, when I googled the NJ phone number I came up with New Jersey Magic-evidently a party entertainer and http://www.salesnetics.com/

Maybe FCA can work as a magicians assistant.
 
Director of Strategic Alliances... HAH!

I just tried to call the number listed under Tim's name. It rang to a girl's voicemail.. sounded like that name was "Charlize Snyder".

They are no longer located in NY. They are now out of WA.
 
http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap4/default.aspx?pin=302313129000021

On the map the land is listed as "Vacant HOA". Is this land held by the Homeowners Assoc.?

You are right about filling in that area. They'd have to fill in the whole wooded area on that side of the street and the other land belongs to the county. It appears they are proposing to build the walkway on a platform which I would imagine will eventually be flooded and repair of the damage would require constant upkeep. jmo

Yes, from what I can tell, it seems that 'HOA' stands for 'home owner's association', but the entire area, including that specific lot, is zoned 'R-1A', which is 'residential, single family dwelling'. In other words, under the current zoning, and unless or until a zoning variance is obtained (very difficult to accomplish), the ONLY thing that can be built on that land is a single family dwelling, i.e., a house (vs, apartment building, etc.). I don't know how old the development itself is, but haven't the Anthonys lived there for 20+ years? If so, the question then becomes, why does the homeowner's association own a 'vacant lot' that is still zoned as a 'residential, single family dwelling' lot? My guess is that the entire parcel of land (i.e., the whole neighborhood) was originally zoned R-1A by the developer and much of it was probably 'swampy'. I've noticed in neighborhood photos of the area that many homes in there have few or no trees of any substantial size (not that uncommon in "cookie cutter" neighborhoods in FL), meaning that virtually all of the original trees in the original wooded area had to be taken down in order to FILL THE (SWAMPY) LAND before any building could take place. Could be that the lot on Suburban that has remained vacant for so many years because it is much 'swampier' than the rest of the development, meaning that it would have been too hard to sell as buildable lots, so they have held on to it all these years by default, so to speak. Or it could be that the original developer had plans for it as a community area (e.g., neighborhood pool, clubhouse, etc.) and never got around to having the zoning change and thus having anything built there. Just a guess. Either way, it's still currently (and has been 'forever') zone R-1A, so nothing goes in there until that changes. Oh, and the current owner's have to agree to a sale, too. ;)

But as I said, that doesn't mean it can't be built on...but the barriers to doing so are great, and what we're talking about isn't a house, so zoning difficulties, etc. are applicable.

As for a walkway, I assume you mean a raised 'deck-like' structure (I confess I haven't read the whole thread)? If so, what's with all the talk about bricks? At any rate, building a raised walkway over a swamp is not without risk either, even if they were to manage to get permission for it somehow (which I doubt). Think about it: kids would presumably use it to 'cut through' on their way to school, etc., and suppose a child falls somehow from the raised walkway and gets hurt.....instant lawsuit. And heaven forbid, there's water below the decking when that happens.....then you could potentially have a real drowning (ironic, in a sick sort of way, but hey, it's possible). Or some predator hangs out there and harms a child. Or a child comes down with West Nile Virus from a mosquito bite and files suit against the then-land owner. The list goes on....

The whole thing is just a really, really, really bad idea, and I'd be completely surprised if the local area residents would support it.

BTW, how many people turned up for that balloon-releasing event the other day anyway? How much local community support for this memorial did there appear to be? Anyone know? I'd bet my last dollar that of all the people there, none of them live in that development.

Anyway, how many people did in fact show up? Anyone know?
 
Yes, from what I can tell, it seems that 'HOA' stands for 'home owner's association', but the entire area, including that specific lot, is zoned 'R-1A', which is 'residential, single family dwelling'. In other words, under the current zoning, and unless or until a zoning variance is obtained (very difficult to accomplish), the ONLY thing that can be built on that land is a single family dwelling, i.e., a house (vs, apartment building, etc.). I don't know how old the development itself is, but haven't the Anthonys lived there for 20+ years? If so, the question then becomes, why does the homeowner's association own a 'vacant lot' that is still zoned as a 'residential, single family dwelling' lot? My guess is that the entire parcel of land (i.e., the whole neighborhood) was originally zoned R-1A by the developer and much of it was probably 'swampy'. I've noticed in neighborhood photos of the area that many homes in there have few or no trees of any substantial size (not that uncommon in "cookie cutter" neighborhoods in FL), meaning that virtually all of the original trees in the original wooded area had to be taken down in order to FILL THE (SWAMPY) LAND before any building could take place. Could be that the lot on Suburban that has remained vacant for so many years because it is much 'swampier' than the rest of the development, meaning that it would have been too hard to sell as buildable lots, so they have held on to it all these years by default, so to speak. Or it could be that the original developer had plans for it as a community area (e.g., neighborhood pool, clubhouse, etc.) and never got around to having the zoning change and thus having anything built there. Just a guess. Either way, it's still currently (and has been 'forever') zone R-1A, so nothing goes in there until that changes. Oh, and the current owner's have to agree to a sale, too. ;)

But as I said, that doesn't mean it can't be built on...but the barriers to doing so are great, and what we're talking about isn't a house, so zoning difficulties, etc. are applicable.

As for a walkway, I assume you mean a raised 'deck-like' structure (I confess I haven't read the whole thread)? If so, what's with all the talk about bricks? At any rate, building a raised walkway over a swamp is not without risk either, even if they were to manage to get permission for it somehow (which I doubt). Think about it: kids would presumably use it to 'cut through' on their way to school, etc., and suppose a child falls somehow from the raised walkway and gets hurt.....instant lawsuit. And heaven forbid, there's water below the decking when that happens.....then you could potentially have a real drowning (ironic, in a sick sort of way, but hey, it's possible). Or some predator hangs out there and harms a child. Or a child comes down with West Nile Virus from a mosquito bite and files suit against the then-land owner. The list goes on....

The whole thing is just a really, really, really bad idea, and I'd be completely surprised if the local area residents would support it.

BTW, how many people turned up for that balloon-releasing event the other day anyway? How much local community support for this memorial did there appear to be? Anyone know? I'd bet my last dollar that of all the people there, none of them live in that development.

Anyway, how many people did in fact show up? Anyone know?

I could not tell how many people were there but I would guess not very many. When they released the balloons it looked like about 30 balloons and the A's had more than one to let go so I don't think there were many people. The saddest part for me watching was a young woman pulling her 2-3 year old behind her while she walked down through that area. I couldn't watch after that. jmo
 
I don't believe that for a second. Until I see evidence that the A's are money hungry, as so many say, I won't believe it. I simply want to know the truth about this organization.

The proof is in their past behavior. You can bet your last dollar that the A's are as money hungry as they come. Good luck with that notion.:innocent:
 
One of the Segura kids won a New Jersey town Talent Search contest in 2007. He won with a magic act. That alone might have prompted an opportunity for the family to try to sell the kid's talent as a party entertainer.
 
Is Disney aware that this group is using one of their entities to promote this thing? Unless they have licensing rights to incorporate Winnie the Pooh into this project, they are treading on dangerous ground.
 
@bobkealing
bob kealing
During #CaseyAnthony $ hearing next wk state will call as witnesses high ranking officers from four agencies involved in search for #caylee



??? Hearing next week?
 
Is Disney aware that this group is using one of their entities to promote this thing? Unless they have licensing rights to incorporate Winnie the Pooh into this project, they are treading on dangerous ground.

Where did I miss this news????
 

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