Gun Control Debate #5

[Karinna]

Perhaps another way of protesting school shootings and a message to Govt. would be for parents to refuse to send their kids to school until the schools could be made safer by whatever means they can deploy to do so, whether that is more LE presence or even some type of military presence that would be trained to take down someone that wants to shoot up a school or thinking about doing so?

 

[bluesneakers]

I can't believe my tax dollars go for kids to play sports. I don't even like football!

And all those ridiculous pep rallies. I would have rather stayed in class.

 

[Karinna]

I can't believe my tax dollars go for kids to play sports. I don't even like football!

Aren't American tax dollars used mainly for warfare? How many trillions of dollars is the country in deficit right now?

 

[bluesneakers]

Perhaps another way of protesting school shootings and a message to Govt. would be for parents to refuse to send their kids to school until the schools could be made safer by whatever means they can deploy to do so, whether that is more LE presence or even some type of military presence that would be trained to take down someone that wants to shoot up a school or thinking about doing so?

Wouldn't kids miss out a lot of education? How long would it take and how much would it cost to enact the measures (including salaries for new employees) you've listed?

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I can't believe my tax dollars go for kids to play sports. I don't even like football!

OT

Right?! It’s not like they’re being coached by Carmello Anthony or whatever. It’s just kids in sweat-wicking nylon-polyester costumes racing around on someone else’s well-maintained greenery.

I mean, the high school sports coach is a stereotype for a reason! It’s just a game.
















*Before anyone corrects me, no need; that’s the joke.

 

[Karinna]

Wouldn't kids miss out a lot of education? How long would it take and how much would it cost to enact the measures (including salaries for new employees) you've listed?

What good is the education when there won't be any jobs for them when they leave school? Even college qualified kids are finding it difficult to gain employment these days.
And they can always home school for a little while until things get sorted.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Perhaps another way of protesting school shootings and a message to Govt. would be for parents to refuse to send their kids to school until the schools could be made safer by whatever means they can deploy to do so, whether that is more LE presence or even some type of military presence that would be trained to take down someone that wants to shoot up a school or thinking about doing so?

Then the parents would literally be breaking the law. They’d also be denying their children an education. They also could potentially go to jail and risk their children being removed from the home. Meh, I’ll pass, but ymmv.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Aren't American tax dollars used mainly for warfare? How many trillions of dollars is the country in deficit right now?

Are they? Link, please? TIA

 

[bluesneakers]

What good is the education when there won't be any jobs for them when they leave school? Even college qualified kids are finding it difficult to gain employment these days.
And they can always home school for a little while until things get sorted.

Source for this? No jobs for high school grads? What is the unemployment rate of recent high school graduates? University graduates?

Some of them must have jobs.

 

[bluesneakers]

Aren't American tax dollars used mainly for warfare? How many trillions of dollars is the country in deficit right now?

I'm not clear on how this relates to the topic of gun control. Can you explain? Thanks.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

What good is the education when there won't be any jobs for them when they leave school? Even college qualified kids are finding it difficult to gain employment these days.
And they can always home school for a little while until things get sorted.

Not sure how easy it is to pull a kid out of school just whenever and immediately start home-schooling.

 

[Karinna]

Are they? Link, please? TIA

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/

 

[flourish]

Then the parents would literally be breaking the law. They’d also be denying their children an education. They also could potentially go to jail and risk their children being removed from the home. Meh, I’ll pass, but ymmv.

Just quit your job and home school them, whether or not you can afford it or are able or remotely qualified to do so! Take that, 45 minutes of "lost" class time!

 

[Jennifer17]

What good is the education when there won't be any jobs for them when they leave school? Even college qualified kids are finding it difficult to gain employment these days.
And they can always home school for a little while until things get sorted.

I am pretty sure that Australia's unemployment rate is higher than the US's.

 

[Karinna]

Source for this? No jobs for high school grads? What is the unemployment rate of recent high school graduates? University graduates?

Some of them must have jobs.

I am talking of my experience of my son graduating HS in Florida. A lot of his friends joined the military because they couldn't get a decent paying job to support themselves with.
It might be different elsewhere? And kids getting out of college, finding difficulty in getting a job as well. It's alright if you only want to earn minimum wage and live at home i suppose.

 

[Karinna]

I am pretty sure that Australia's unemployment rate is higher than the US's.

But i'm not talking about australia.

 

[Karinna]

Not sure how easy it is to pull a kid out of school just whenever and immediately start home-schooling.

It doesn't take too long. Just need to talk with the school about it and organize it, and there are quite a few kids that are home schooled successfully.

 

[bluesneakers]

I am talking of my experience of my son graduating HS in Florida. A lot of his friends joined the military because they couldn't get a decent paying job to support themselves with.
It might be different elsewhere? And kids getting out of college, finding difficulty in getting a job as well. It's alright if you only want to earn minimum wage and live at home i suppose.

If "What good is the education when there won't be any jobs for them when they leave school?" is how you feel IMO today's walk out shouldn't be a problem.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Source for this? No jobs for high school grads? What is the unemployment rate of recent high school graduates? University graduates?

Some of them must have jobs.

OT-ish

Agreed, blue.

They’re working, but comparatively speaking, they’re earning less at their jobs compared to people their age were 20, 30, 40 or 50 years ago. That’s gotta suck, imho.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...nBjUQFgghMAc&usg=AOvVaw1UWsBtFZQkuwxrq4FM5EK-

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...nBjUQFggNMAA&usg=AOvVaw2486eeijChB0pigYS3kEXW

https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...nBjUQFggQMAE&usg=AOvVaw0vl4WzQKM4gUz0EprvRa5O

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...nBjUQFggbMAU&usg=AOvVaw2afuGkpR5ftvBEdDaEIY9U

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...nBjUQFggZMAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Mpn-1D0_09nO8wp4ZSHOT

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...nBjUQFggeMAY&usg=AOvVaw2wvinPf8Cm3ftkZyKfUrUS

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

It doesn't take too long. Just need to talk with the school about it and organize it, and there are quite a few kids that are home schooled successfully.

But the school’s closed as ... someone ... cleans up after a mass shooting where dozens of kids and adults were wounded and killed. And, besides, it’s crawling with cops rn! [emoji8]