Hank Croslin Jr Talks

[SeriouslySearching]

So Tommy not only placed himself at the mobile home - he now says he knocked on the door saw no lights got no answer - so he hung around for awhile to see if she would come home. So he has placed himself at the mobile home for more than just a few minutes of time. I think he is trying to cover because someone might have seen him or his vehicle there.

Yes, he did and yes...imo...is exactly why he did it. We have the real "key" finally, imo! It is unfortunate that LE has this information and doesn't appear to see it. Forest for the trees...comes to mind.

 

[kiki the parrot]

Or just MAYBE... :idea: MC anticipated from the outset that someone might come forward and allege she wasn't home AT 202... thus made a POINT of stating so emphatically how she turned ALL THE LIGHTS OFF when she went to bed so EARLY. As well as how EXHAUSTED she was... :waitasec:

arrot:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

No one besides someone who knew there was evidence of being seen or having been implicated would be stupid enough after 8 months to place themselves at the scene closest to the time Haleigh went missing, imo. It really doesn't implicate Misty as much as it does Tommy! It almost clears Misty if she was gone and Haleigh was there alone. She would only be guilty of neglect and not doing something to her. The burden then goes back on Tommy and what he did after he supposedly knocked on the door. We have him at the home and hanging around for a bit afterward. Seems to me...Tommy has a real problem.

OR he just provided Misty with the perfect defense giving reasonable doubt.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

No one besides someone who knew there was evidence of being seen or having been implicated would be stupid enough after 8 months to place themselves at the scene closest to the time Haleigh went missing, imo. It really doesn't implicate Misty as much as it does Tommy! It almost clears Misty if she was gone and Haleigh was there alone. She would only be guilty of neglect and not doing something to her. The burden then goes back on Tommy and what he did after he supposedly knocked on the door. We have him at the home and hanging around for a bit afterward. Seems to me...Tommy has a real problem.

OR he just provided Misty with the perfect defense giving reasonable doubt.

Interesting...but I personally am unaware of when this info came out....It is so far known that Tommy and later Sykes were at the home so in essence they both placed themselves there...

Wonder why WBG was arrested tonight?

 

[cajun]

Interesting...but I personally am unaware of when this info came out....It is so far known that Tommy and later Sykes were at the home so in essence they both placed themselves there...

Wonder why WBG was arrested tonight?

Drugs and he was out 45 minutes later.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

Drugs and he was out 45 minutes later.

Yes it does LOOK like that....no way of knowing how long he was REALLY in for..MOO

 

[PorcineGranny]

LOL Misty may be described as many things, but not being helpful, nah. Right or wrong, guilty or innocent, she's been through the ninth degree. Don't know of what else she could do. Because someone doesn't like her answers, doesn't equate to not being helpful or truthful.

I've followed many missing childrens cases. Since you brought it up, what else would you have her do?

Tell the truth, its all any of us want. She has gone to LE in the guise of helping, but she is only looking out for Misty and Ron. She needs to tell everything she knows, without hesitation.

 

[RR0004]

IMO, they have...they found Tommy was there by his own words. I think it will be the end all to this mess.

...and why would he want to do harm to Haleigh? I don't see the connection to her...but do see his connection to his sister. What would be his motive? I really want to know.

 

[RR0004]

Yes it does LOOK like that....no way of knowing how long he was REALLY in for..MOO

...and his pic got put up on the website by accident over the weekend? I no longer believe in coincidences when it comes to this case.

 

[txsvicki]

I'd sure like to know if Ron heard Haleigh in the background when he and Misty were fussing on the phone and what Jr. has to say about the movie watching. Was Haleigh talking or moving around in the bed or room where she was supposedly watching her movie, or just lying there.

 

[Busylady]

The simple fact that Tommy is just now telling LE this to me means he is in CYA mode. Something has him afraid that someone saw him at the mobile home that night I think. Also RC states he did not ask Tommy to go over there he just called and asked if Misty was at his house.

 

[Muffet]

Or the timing could be that he's in "OK, after all you've done to me lately, I'm not going to cover for you anymore" mode.

 

[Donjeta]

Or the timing could be that he's in "OK, after all you've done to me lately, I'm not going to cover for you anymore" mode.

Yeah... If by any chance he was stupid enough to think that it was his familial duty to try to cover for his sister I think it would have started to falter about the time of the Ratgate and the fight and the RO happened, and the videotape of Misty pointing fingers at him would certainly have been the last straw.

It's also possible that if someone saw his truck there he may have been swayed by LE saying to him that he should spill it because his vehicle was seen, just give it up son, we know you're hiding something. (It's not far from Tyler, just a few houses away, why did he come in his truck, if he did?)

 

[Donjeta]

Here's an article with Lisa C's take on it:

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...sty_cummings_brother_she_wasnt_at_mobile_home

Guess that Lisa's not in hiding or if she is Dana Treen can help LE track her down.

A couple of interesting things about the article:

Terry Shoemaker said Cummings simply called the Croslins just before 9 p.m. to ask if his girlfriend was there. Croslin was not asked to check on his sister in the call that lasted 20 to 30 seconds.
Shoemaker said the two had been in touch throughout the night.
“As far as he knows, they were home,” he said. “He had no reason to think they were not.”
Authorities said phone records show Cummings did make several unanswered calls to her cell phone before calling the Croslins.
“There were numerous attempts to call Misty,” said Maj. Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. “Unsuccessful attempts.”

Why did Ron's atty make such a stupid little lie? (If this is what he really said and not a reporter's mistaken paraphrase.) JMO but I wouldn't call making 20 unanswered calls being in touch throughout the night, I'd call it being out of touch. Unless Misty and Ron emailed each other or something? Also, if Ron knew that she was home and had no reason to think she wasn't home, why the heck did he call Tommy to ask if she was there? Makes no sense to me.

In the interview, he told detectives he went to the Satsuma mobile home about 9:45 p.m. to find his sister.

If this time is correct, Misty wouldn't have been asleep yet. It's after she supposedly put the children to bed and before she went to sleep herself. I suppose it's possible that she just forgot to mention that she stepped out to buy cigarettes while she was waiting for the blankies to be ready, before she went to bed, and came home to give Haleigh her blanket, fall asleep and wake up seeing three.

Teresa Neves, who is Ronald Cummings’ mother, said her son told her he spoke with Tommy Croslin that night but did not tell him to go to the mobile home.
“My son would have called me to check on his kids,” she said.

He would bother his mom who lives a longer drive away rather than someone who lives a couple of houses away?
The conditional leaves me wishing for more. My son would have called me to check on his kids, but...? What prevented him? Did he in fact call her? If he didn't, why on earth not? He must have been worried since she was just coming off a binge and suddenly incommunicada.

“He told us he banged on the door,” Bowling said. “He said it was dark and no lights were on.”
Detectives were told no one came to the door.
“It is surprising that someone would hold that information,” Bowling said.
Lisa Croslin said she had not heard about the call in the seven months since Haleigh disappeared and found that puzzling but did not have an explanation.

Interesting if Tommy didn't share being there with his relatives. It would sound like he knows something more that he doesn't want to come up. Lisa could be just saying that she didn't know though, because she doesn't want to get accused of withholding information.

IDK. Misty seems to have a lot to lose if it comes out that she lied about being there. Tommy doesn't seem to have anything to gain by lying that he was there if he wasn't. On the contrary he's on the losing side because it draws attention to himself, and makes for awkward questions why he's telling this now. But I'm not sure if we have the whole story from him yet.

“If he’s telling the truth, it means a lot,” Bowling said. “We took it for what it is worth.”

Annoying LE doublespeak here. Just what is it worth for them? This could mean anything from "We dismissed it as a lie" to "Woohoo, it means a lot! He's probably telling the truth but shame that he's so late to come in with the information, it'll be worth nothing after a day in court with a skillful lawyer."

 

[Indiana at Heart]

Phone records show RC did try and call Misty that night

Gary Bowling, a major with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, say his phone records reveal he made 20 phone calls to her that Monday night, but she didn’t pick up;

He could not say nope don't know nothing cause RC did ask if Misty was at Tommy


that’s why he says he called the Croslin’s to ask if Misty was there, and Tommy says he made a request for him to check the trailer. Not that Ronald’s family believes Tommy, who faces theft charges and little prospect of getting out of jail anytime soon, with a whopping $50,000 bond hanging over his head.

I believe Tommy.


http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/23/exclusive-misty-cummings-party-pal-busted/#more-2993


If Misty was gone/not answering the phone why call Tommy? Unless you want Tommy to go check on her. She was gone three days before and Ron left those children with her! Then she don't answer the phone then works three hours over.... hmmm he knows. I'm happy that Tommy is telling. They have phone records so Tommy couldn't lie/save his siter anymore. No wonder her family leaving town she still can't tell the truth!

 

[Busylady]

“As far as he knows, they were home,” he said. “He had no reason to think they were not.”
Authorities said phone records show Cummings did make several unanswered calls to her cell phone before calling the Croslins.

“There were numerous attempts to call Misty,” said Maj. Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. “Unsuccessful attempts.”

Bowling said Cummings called Tommy Croslin to say he was not able to contact her.

The couple had recently fought, prompting Misty to have a weekend excursion away from Ronald days before.

In the interview at the Putnam County jail where he is being held on a grand theft charge, Croslin told detectives he went down the street and banged on Cummings’ door about an hour after talking to Cummings, but no one answered.

Bowling said it is the first time anyone has said they went to the mobile home after Cummings’ grandmother Annette Sykes left about 7:30 p.m.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...brother_she_wasnt_home_night_haleigh_vanished

So Tommy waits an hour to go check on Misty? That leads me to believe that RC didn't ask him to check on Misty just asked Tommy if she was at their house.

The unanswered calls were BEFORE he called the Croslins. So we don't know if RC talked to Misty after he called the Croslins therefore he had no worries that she wasnt home etc.

Tommy didnt share with his mom that he had gone to the mobile home that night either. This just all points to Tommy trying to find an excuse for possibly being seen at the mobile home that night.

 

[AC]

Misty Not Home Night Haleigh Vanished?
Putnam County Investigators Release Details Hoping To Pressure Stepmom

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32973550/

WJXT-TV
updated 2 hours, 21 minutes ago

PALATKA, Fla. - More than seven months after Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her father's mobile home in Satsuma, investigators have learned more information about the night the 5-year-old disappeared.

Putnam County investigators said Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, called home from work several times trying to reach his 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty Croslin, who was babysitting Haleigh and her younger brother.

No one answered, according to deputies.

According to deputies, Cummings then called Croslin's family looking for her and asked her brother -- Hank Croslin Jr. -- to go check on her and his kids.

"Ronald calls numerous times, Hank says that he answered that call from Ronald, which we know that was made ... It was Ronald saying, 'Go check on Misty,'" Putnam County Maj. Gary Bowling said. "He said he complied with that request and Misty did not answer the door. The house was dark and quiet."

Video:Misty Not Home Night Haleigh Disappeared?

Putnam County investigators got that information last Thursday night during an interview with Hank Croslin Jr. while he was in custody on a grand-theft charge unrelated to the Haleigh Cummings case.

Bowling said Croslin told them he make a concerted effort to see if anybody was at the Cummings' mobile home that night.

"He tells us that he made a good effort to see if someone was home," Bowling said.

The investigators said Croslin's statement casts more doubt on his sister's story that she was home watching movies that night with the two kids.

"What we need is for Misty to come down here and tell us the truth," Bowling said.

While the Putnam County Sheriff's Office has not released a great deal of information about the case that has generated over 4,000 leads and taken investigators across the country, Bowling said they are releasing this information in hopes of getting Misty Croslin-Cummings to be more forthcoming with investigators.

"We know that it applies pressure where pressure needs to be applied, and that's on Misty," Bowling said. "She needs to tell her attorney that, 'You know we need to go down to the sheriff's office and really lay out in clear terms what I was going from 8 p.m. to 3 a.m."

Five weeks into the search for Haleigh, Misty Croslin married Ronald Cumming, who has publicly never waived in his support of her.

Misty Croslin-Cummings did not return a phone call from Channel 4, but her attorney, Robert Field, told Laura Mazzeo he questions the credibility of Misty's brother. They have not been getting along and she currently has a restraining order against him.

Field said if they want to talk to Misty Croslin, they should contact him, not try to pressure her by releasing information to the media.

Bowling said Hank Croslin's interview had nothing to do with the search of a pond south of Palatka that began the next afternoon. That search was generated by an unrelated tip and the timing was purely coincidental.

Authorities ask anyone with any information about Haleigh's disappearance to call the Putnam County Sheriff's Office at 386-329-0800 or the FDLE's Missing Endangered Persons Information Clearinghouse at 888-FL-MISSING. A $35,000 reward remains in place for Haleigh's safe return or a tip that leads to the conviction of whoever was responsible for her disappearance.

 

[Busylady]

If RC asked Tommy to go check on Misty and the kids, there would be record of a call back from Tommy to RC. Plus you don't wait an hour to go check on someone. Just not adding up at all.

 

[texasmommy39]

“As far as he knows, they were home,” he said. “He had no reason to think they were not.”
Authorities said phone records show Cummings did make several unanswered calls to her cell phone before calling the Croslins.

“There were numerous attempts to call Misty,” said Maj. Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. “Unsuccessful attempts.”

Bowling said Cummings called Tommy Croslin to say he was not able to contact her.

The couple had recently fought, prompting Misty to have a weekend excursion away from Ronald days before.

In the interview at the Putnam County jail where he is being held on a grand theft charge, Croslin told detectives he went down the street and banged on Cummings’ door about an hour after talking to Cummings, but no one answered.

Bowling said it is the first time anyone has said they went to the mobile home after Cummings’ grandmother Annette Sykes left about 7:30 p.m.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...brother_she_wasnt_home_night_haleigh_vanished

So Tommy waits an hour to go check on Misty? That leads me to believe that RC didn't ask him to check on Misty just asked Tommy if she was at their house.

The unanswered calls were BEFORE he called the Croslins. So we don't know if RC talked to Misty after he called the Croslins therefore he had no worries that she wasnt home etc.

Tommy didnt share with his mom that he had gone to the mobile home that night either. This just all points to Tommy trying to find an excuse for possibly being seen at the mobile home that night.

Good morning Busy, I was wondering if its just possible it is an act of revenge against Misty. Did Ron get an update from Tommy when he returned home? I would think that Tommy would of called Ron back if he was asked to check on Misty and under the impression she was not home.

 

[Busylady]

You would think that Tommy would call RC back and if RC didnt hear back from Tommy he would of been calling Tommy if the reason for RC's call was to have Tommy check on Misty and the kids. No mentioned of any of those type calls and I think they would mention that if they had occurred. IMO Tommy is covering his own tail at the moment.