Has anyone else brought up the similarities between The Freeway Phantom and Colonial Parkway Killer

[jaejae]

The suspect in this case may be a white man. I am not sure who he was but I believe the girl victim when she said he was white. Therefore I do not agree with analysis below it was deception. Before the killer struck he likely allowed the child victim to behave relatively normally as in the case of Amy Milhaljevic where she was allowed to call home. Yes this victim she was abducted but until she was killed I believe the killer tried to reassure in a sick and twisted was by saying he would take her back. I do not believe the child would have been capable of lying for him and these facts may have been a kind of taunting by him:

Clearly the references to a “white man” and “Virginia” were deception. No serial killer would allow his victim to give out actual useful clues to the family and authorities. If anything, this should have helped investigators narrow their search to not include white suspects or residents in Virginia. But at the time, the concept of a serial killer was unknown. You had repeat offenders, but the phrase “serial killer” was years away from these crimes.

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[jaejae]

Just my view but it appears LE bought the line it was a red herring and thought he was an African American and that is a red herring itself. The old double bluff.

 

[jaejae]

It will be interesting to see if there is any DNA evidence in the Freeway Phantom cases. I just sought of assumed not as they are very cold and you read of things not going well in the cases but here is an article about possible DNA evidence:

DNA test in “Freeway Phantom” cold case not confirmed

 

[jaejae]

It will be interesting to see if there is any DNA evidence in the Freeway Phantom cases. I just sought of assumed not as they are very cold and you read of things not going well in the cases but here is an article about possible DNA evidence:

DNA test in “Freeway Phantom” cold case not confirmed

I like everyone else would be happy to see any of these cases solved with the right culprit identified. Here is another series of child murders where there are some similarities with the Freeway Phantom cases:

Oakland County Child Killer Case: New DNA evidence discovered in 1970s Michigan murders, prosecutor says

 

[jaejae]

Here is another page with interesting information about the Freeway Phantom cases:

Just over 2 weeks later, the killer struck again. The victim was 10-year-old Brenda Crockett, who had gone to the store on the instruction of her mother. This time it was a little different; Brenda made two calls home while in the company of her killer. Her younger sister answered the first call; Brenda told her she had been picked up by a white man and was on her way home in a cab. Before her sister had to time to answer, however, Brenda said goodbye and hung up. The second call Brenda made was answered by her mother’s boyfriend, whom she told where she was – this time in the white man’s home. When he attempted to question Brenda further, Brenda hung up as she did in her first phone call. That was the last time anyone heard from Brenda. She was discovered just hours later on the side of the freeway. She had been raped and strangled with a scarf.

The African American community of Washington DC were terrified for obvious reasons. The modus operandi of the killer was clear; he abducted young, defenceless black girls, who were usually out doing normal, everyday life things, like going to work or to the store. They were raped, strangled and then dumped at various sites along the side of the freeway.

The Freeway Phantom Murders — Talk Murder With Me

 

[jaejae]

Here is another page with interesting information about the Freeway Phantom cases:

Just over 2 weeks later, the killer struck again. The victim was 10-year-old Brenda Crockett, who had gone to the store on the instruction of her mother. This time it was a little different; Brenda made two calls home while in the company of her killer. Her younger sister answered the first call; Brenda told her she had been picked up by a white man and was on her way home in a cab. Before her sister had to time to answer, however, Brenda said goodbye and hung up. The second call Brenda made was answered by her mother’s boyfriend, whom she told where she was – this time in the white man’s home. When he attempted to question Brenda further, Brenda hung up as she did in her first phone call. That was the last time anyone heard from Brenda. She was discovered just hours later on the side of the freeway. She had been raped and strangled with a scarf.

The African American community of Washington DC were terrified for obvious reasons. The modus operandi of the killer was clear; he abducted young, defenceless black girls, who were usually out doing normal, everyday life things, like going to work or to the store. They were raped, strangled and then dumped at various sites along the side of the freeway.

The Freeway Phantom Murders — Talk Murder With Me

There is some interesting and disturbing information about the above note that was found in this article:

“This is tantamount to my insensititivity [sic] to people especially women.

I will admit the others when you catch me if you can!

Free-way Phantom!”

The Freeway Phantom Murders — Talk Murder With Me

 

[jaejae]

Here are details of a new Podcast about the Freeway Phantom cases:

The Freeway Phantom - The Murder Squad

 

[billthom56]

For those of you follow the Colonial Parkway Murders, check out "Mind Over Murder," a new true crime podcast from Colonial Parkway Murders victim advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley.

We have had more than 10,000 downloads of our new “Mind Over Murder” true crime podcast in our first 3 weeks.

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Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Hosts, “Mind Over Murder” podcast

 

[billthom56]

OK, the "Lover's Lane Murders" limited television series covering the Colonial Parkway Murders is moving forward!


Title: "Lover's Lane Murders"

Subject: A deep dive into the unsolved the Colonial Parkway Murders

Date: Monday, February 8 and Tuesday, February 9, 2021

Time: TBA

Network: Oxygen

Episodes: Four hour-long shows, two episodes each night

Producers: Texas Crew Productions (Austin, TX) and XG Productions (Los Angeles, CA)

Featuring: Former FBI profiler Jim Clemente, former FBI agent Maureen O'Connell, former prosecutor Loni Coombs, and forensic expert Laura Pettler
With interviews with Colonial Parkway Murders family members, former FBI and Virginia State Police investigators, reporters and journalists who have covered the case over 34 years.

The Colonial Parkway Murders refers to four unsolved double homicides of young couples who were murdered in lover's lanes in and around Williamsburg, Virginia from 1986 to 1989.
Victims include Cathy Thomas and Rebecca Dowski in October 1986, Robin Edwards and David Knobling in September 1987, Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey missing and assumed murdered in April 1988, and Annamaria Phelps and Daniel Lauer in September 1989.

Thomas/Dowski and Call/Hailey are handled by the FBI Newport News office, and Edwards/Knobling and Phelps/Lauer are handled by the Virginia State Police.


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Thanks.



Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathy Thomas
Colonial Parkway Murders

 

[MeadowMuffin]

OK, the "Lover's Lane Murders" limited television series covering the Colonial Parkway Murders is moving forward!


Title: "Lover's Lane Murders"

Subject: A deep dive into the unsolved the Colonial Parkway Murders

Date: Monday, February 8 and Tuesday, February 9, 2021

Time: TBA

Network: Oxygen

Episodes: Four hour-long shows, two episodes each night

Producers: Texas Crew Productions (Austin, TX) and XG Productions (Los Angeles, CA)

Featuring: Former FBI profiler Jim Clemente, former FBI agent Maureen O'Connell, former prosecutor Loni Coombs, and forensic expert Laura Pettler
With interviews with Colonial Parkway Murders family members, former FBI and Virginia State Police investigators, reporters and journalists who have covered the case over 34 years.

The Colonial Parkway Murders refers to four unsolved double homicides of young couples who were murdered in lover's lanes in and around Williamsburg, Virginia from 1986 to 1989.
Victims include Cathy Thomas and Rebecca Dowski in October 1986, Robin Edwards and David Knobling in September 1987, Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey missing and assumed murdered in April 1988, and Annamaria Phelps and Daniel Lauer in September 1989.

Thomas/Dowski and Call/Hailey are handled by the FBI Newport News office, and Edwards/Knobling and Phelps/Lauer are handled by the Virginia State Police.


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Thanks.



Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathy Thomas
Colonial Parkway Murders

Would you kindly repost this when it's closer to the showing? I don't want to miss it.

 

[billthom56]

At long last, the "Lover's Lane Murders" true crime TV series covering the Colonial Parkway Murders is coming to the Oxygen Network

Note the new date: Friday, February 12 and Saturday, February 13 at 9:00 pm.

Two one hour episodes each night.

#LoversLaneMurders #ColonialParkwayMurders #Oxygen



Lovers' Lane Murders Sets Out to Solve the Infamous Colonial Parkway Murders - E! Online


Thanks.


Bill Thomas, Brother of Cathy Thomas, Colonial Parkway Murders

 

[Kell1]

The only similarities I can see is that they were in Virginia.

The signature aspect of both is completely different ,

Freeway Phantom suspect was abducting black teenage females, raping and strangling them, Ill speak further on that in a min

The Colonial parkway case is one of those cases that seems to actually suffer from being labeled a "serial killing" and attributed to a single offender, however when analyzed, it seems to involve multiple unrelated crimes, and multiple offenders, there are 4 cases, in the colonial parkway killings, with a possible 5th some 200 miles away, in the Shenandoah valley

Sadly this is born out of the media in some cases, especially in the past., which is not all bad if it raises awareness for the general public.

Of those murders listed in the Colonial parkway case, the most similarities seem to be between the 1st and 5th cases, in which 2 female couples were murdered in a somewhat similar fashion. I believe there are still 2 people still unaccounted for in the colonial parkway killings case however.

There's been quite a few cases, of more than 1 offender operating and using the same area often at the same time, the Calder oil field (AKA Texas Killing Fields) murders for example, that most investigators feel is the work of multiple offenders.

So its entirely possible , and plausible that the Colonial parkway killings aren't all related. That doesn't mean that a single offender may not be responsible for some of them, but the signature aspect of the crimes seems distinctly different, as does the level of violence at each, and completely different than the Freeway Phantom killings years earlier.

When analyzing a series of crimes believed to be attributed to the same offender, what you look for is called "personation" , that is the "why" the offender is doing what he is doing, the MO is the "how" .

Personation is the psychological fuel for the offender, the reasons they are what they are never change . The HOW (MO) they go about it usually can, will, and does, especially as they become more adept, or the situation for them changes, such as being on the run etc..

When personation is repeated its called "signature" and like a signature that is unique to the offender.

You may find some killers who have murdered victims with every method known to man, but the reasons they do will remain the same .

In these sets of cases, you have several different motives/signatures in the Colonial parkway killings, suggesting several offenders , whereas in the Phantom killings you have a signature aspect of a single offender raping and killing for a different reason, even taunting police at one point .

 

[billthom56]

The only similarities I can see is that they were in Virginia.

The signature aspect of both is completely different ,

Freeway Phantom suspect was abducting black teenage females, raping and strangling them, Ill speak further on that in a min

The Colonial parkway case is one of those cases that seems to actually suffer from being labeled a "serial killing" and attributed to a single offender, however when analyzed, it seems to involve multiple unrelated crimes, and multiple offenders, there are 4 cases, in the colonial parkway killings, with a possible 5th some 200 miles away, in the Shenandoah valley

Sadly this is born out of the media in some cases, especially in the past., which is not all bad if it raises awareness for the general public.

Of those murders listed in the Colonial parkway case, the most similarities seem to be between the 1st and 5th cases, in which 2 female couples were murdered in a somewhat similar fashion. I believe there are still 2 people still unaccounted for in the colonial parkway killings case however.

There's been quite a few cases, of more than 1 offender operating and using the same area often at the same time, the Calder oil field (AKA Texas Killing Fields) murders for example, that most investigators feel is the work of multiple offenders.

So its entirely possible , and plausible that the Colonial parkway killings aren't all related. That doesn't mean that a single offender may not be responsible for some of them, but the signature aspect of the crimes seems distinctly different, as does the level of violence at each, and completely different than the Freeway Phantom killings years earlier.

When analyzing a series of crimes believed to be attributed to the same offender, what you look for is called "personation" , that is the "why" the offender is doing what he is doing, the MO is the "how" .

Personation is the psychological fuel for the offender, the reasons they are what they are never change . The HOW (MO) they go about it usually can, will, and does, especially as they become more adept, or the situation for them changes, such as being on the run etc..

When personation is repeated its called "signature" and like a signature that is unique to the offender.

You may find some killers who have murdered victims with every method known to man, but the reasons they do will remain the same .

In these sets of cases, you have several different motives/signatures in the Colonial parkway killings, suggesting several offenders , whereas in the Phantom killings you have a signature aspect of a single offender raping and killing for a different reason, even taunting police at one point .

Lots on interesting thoughts here. In the Colonial Parkway Murders, the signature may actually be the post mortem moving and staging of the cars.

Thanks.



Bill Thomas, Brother of Cathy Thomas, Colonial Parkway Murders

 

[billthom56]

Proud to have worked as a Consulting Producer on "Lover's Lane Murders" true crime television series covering the unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders, making its debut on the Oxygen Network (NBC Universal) February 11-12, 2021.

Executive Produced by the incredible teams at XG Productions and Texas Crew Productions.

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www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/season-1/videos/lovers-lane-murders-premieres-february-11th

 

[Kell1]

Lots on interesting thoughts here. In the Colonial Parkway Murders, the signature may actually be the post mortem moving and staging of the cars.

Thanks.



Bill Thomas, Brother of Cathy Thomas, Colonial Parkway Murders

Interesting, I didnt see anywhere where the offender(s) in this case did any such thing

If they were posed then its definitely a possibility, but I didnt see any information where the victims were posed,

The fact that couples were all killed however is interesting

 

[billthom56]

Kelli:

Law enforcement feels that the cars were moved and staged to create certain impressions in the Colonial Parkway Murders.

Thanks everyone for watching the new "Lovers Lane Murders" series on the Colonial Parkway Murders on Oxygen. The four-part true crime series is running now.

You can also watch the four-part series on the free Oxygen app: www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders

We will be starting an in-depth series starting Monday, Feb 15 on on the Colonial Parkway Murders on our true crime podcast, "Mind Over Murder."

Mind Over Murder podcast: Mind Over Murder • A podcast on Anchor

Bill Thomas, Brother of Cathy Thomas, Colonial Parkway Murders

 

[billthom56]

Check out of first ever bonus episode of the Mind Over Murder true crime podcast, where we answer questions about the unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders and the new “Lovers Lane Murders” TV series now showing on the Oxygen Network.

Bonus episode:

Episode 58: BONUS Colonial Parkway Murders Evidence Listener Q and A by Mind Over Murder • A podcast on Anchor


Bill Thomas, Brother of Cathy Thomas, Colonial Parkway Murders

 

[billthom56]

New article on the Colonial Parkway Murders which appeared in the Daily Press and Virginia Gazette.

35 years later, victims’ families in Colonial Parkway Murders still searching for answers, hope DNA advances will solve case


35 years later, victims’ families in Colonial Parkway Murders still searching for answers, hope DNA advances will solve case

We are also covering the case on our "Mind Over Murder" podcast:

Mind Over Murder Episode 106: New Leads for Longtime Suspects in the Colonial Parkway Murders?

New Leads for Longtime Suspects in the Colonial Parkway Murders?

Thanks.


Bill Thomas, Brother of Cathy Thomas, Colonial Parkway Murders

 

[Richard]

The victims of the Colonial Parkway Killer.

 

[billthom56]

Richard:

Thank you so much.


Bill Thomas, Brother of Cathy Thomas, Colonial Parkway Murders