HI HI - Haena, Two UnsMales 25-30, UP13056 & UP13057, found side by side in Hanakoa Valley, rings, Mar'79

[HopeRains]

Starting a thread on these two, located together, in March 1979.

Originally thought to be a man and woman, NAMUS identifies both as males. I'm unable to see any DNA related info but note that NAMUS case updated in 2019. (Note that Claire Ueno, the investigator listed in Namus, passed away in 2017). I actually talked with Claire on this case probably 10-ish years ago and remember her telling me that the scene was very peaceful, no determined cause of death, it appeared they just laid down and went to sleep.

Unknown to me what has been determined since that conversation regarding any new/additional info.

1. Camp site area, single sleeping bag, water shelter/tarp, firewood
2. Empty single backpack
3. Pen from a California firm (I believe I saw somewhere it was a real estate firm)
4. Turquoise ring in silver setting (on victim presumed initially to be a woman)

I have a couple of snapshots of older articles I want to share, and am hopeful I will do it correctly but am sure someone will assist me if I do not - thanks!

 

[HopeRains]

Could someone who knows how to please modify the thread subject - I entered the prefix of HI, but I want HI included in thread subject as well - thanks!

 

[victoriarobinson642]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
NAMUS links

 

[carbuff]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
NAMUS links

Nobody ruled out for either one.

 

[carbuff]

<modsnip - not an approved source>

The articles in the first post clarify that they were sharing the sleeping bag and shelter, and were found snuggled together.

Their Namus pages don't have any new information.

 

[AliceInPain]

Their Namus pages don't have any new information.

sbm. Says one of them had a beard (or "beard present"). I don't think that was mentioned in the articles. I'm guessing the other one didn't. Not very helpful though.
I wonder if they have DNA and they -know- "the other one" is a male, or if they're assuming due to the size/ appearance of the bones and the ring?
Were there no clothes present?

 

[Bit of hope]

In this article these two unidentified persons are slightly mentioned. The mysterious disappearances on a popular Hawaii trail

Could the cause of death be accidental poisoning? I remember a case about a Belgium couple that had eaten some kind of leaf, thinking it was eatable and died because of it. The difference is that the Belgium couple was not decomposed that much, so they could find traces in the body. What's against this is that I don't expect they went so peacefully though. Maybe this men took something together and they "just" went over to the other site, in peace.

 

[Romulus]

Unidentified Person/NamUs #UP13056
Male, Uncertain
Date Body Found: March 16, 1979
Location Found: Haena, Hawaii
Estimated Age Range: 25-30 Years

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Estimated Age Group: Adult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years): 25-30
Estimated Year of Death: 1979
Estimated PMI: 1 Months
Height: 5' 11"(71 inches) , Estimated
Weight: Cannot Estimate

Circumstances​

Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: March 16, 1979
NamUs Case Created: October 30, 2014
ME/C QA Reviewed--

Location Found Map​

Location: Haena, Hawaii
County: Kauai County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped)--
Found On Tribal Land--
Circumstances of Recovery: Two male bodies were found side by side in Hanakoa Valley.

---

Details of Recovery​

Inventory of Remains--
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Mummified

Physical Description​

Hair Color--
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description: beard present
Left Eye Color--
Right Eye Color--
Eye Description--

---

Distinctive Physical Features​

No Known Information
Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Jewelry: ring
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Unidentified Person/NamUs #UP13057
Male, Uncertain
Date Body Found: March 16, 1979
Location Found: Haena, Hawaii

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Estimated Age Range: 25-30 Years
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years): 25-30
Estimated Year of Death: 1979
Estimated PMI: 4 Weeks
Height: 5' 9"(69 inches) , Estimated
Weight: Cannot Estimate

Circumstances​

Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: March 16, 1979
NamUs Case Created: October 30, 2014
ME/C QA Reviewed--

Location Found Map​

Location: Haena, Hawaii
County: Kauai County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped)--
Found On Tribal Land--
Circumstances of Recovery: Two male bodies were found in Hanakoa Valley

---

Details of Recovery​

Inventory of Remains--
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

Physical Description​

Hair Color--
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye Color--
Right Eye Color--
Eye Description--

---

Distinctive Physical Features​

No Known Information
Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Jewelry: ring, not described

 

[HmmMysterious]

Unidentified Person/NamUs #UP13056
Male, Uncertain
Date Body Found: March 16, 1979
Location Found: Haena, Hawaii
Estimated Age Range: 25-30 Years

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Estimated Age Group: Adult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years): 25-30
Estimated Year of Death: 1979
Estimated PMI: 1 Months
Height: 5' 11"(71 inches) , Estimated
Weight: Cannot Estimate

Circumstances​

Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: March 16, 1979
NamUs Case Created: October 30, 2014
ME/C QA Reviewed--

Location Found Map​

Location: Haena, Hawaii
County: Kauai County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped)--
Found On Tribal Land--
Circumstances of Recovery: Two male bodies were found side by side in Hanakoa Valley.

---

Details of Recovery​

Inventory of Remains--
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Mummified

Physical Description​

Hair Color--
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description: beard present
Left Eye Color--
Right Eye Color--
Eye Description--

---

Distinctive Physical Features​

No Known Information
Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Jewelry: ring
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Unidentified Person/NamUs #UP13057
Male, Uncertain
Date Body Found: March 16, 1979
Location Found: Haena, Hawaii

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Estimated Age Range: 25-30 Years
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years): 25-30
Estimated Year of Death: 1979
Estimated PMI: 4 Weeks
Height: 5' 9"(69 inches) , Estimated
Weight: Cannot Estimate

Circumstances​

Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found: March 16, 1979
NamUs Case Created: October 30, 2014
ME/C QA Reviewed--

Location Found Map​

Location: Haena, Hawaii
County: Kauai County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped)--
Found On Tribal Land--
Circumstances of Recovery: Two male bodies were found in Hanakoa Valley

---

Details of Recovery​

Inventory of Remains--
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

Physical Description​

Hair Color--
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye Color--
Right Eye Color--
Eye Description--

---

Distinctive Physical Features​

No Known Information
Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Jewelry: ring, not described

Is it possible they were a gay couple? The fact that both of them had rings stood out to me.