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Combination of jet lag and .17 alcohol from seven or more cocktails is considered to have impaired judgment and depth perception. All injuries consistent with a fall. No indications of date rape or forcible rape.
Its highly unlikely that there will be any civil action. The deep pockets would be the hotel in Hawaii, the tortfeasors that you imagine engaged in drinking games or the like are young kids from Central California. There is no evidence of anything having happened in the hotel room other than sex and she may still have been sober enough to consent to that at the time it took place. No way to prove she was passed out at the time and no forensic indications of forcible sex.Particle_Beam said:im sure this will come out during any civil trial, where the burden of proof is not 'beyond reasonable doubt'
Casshew said:We have to know a bit more about the girl too...
I am not trying to blame this girl.. but I want to share a story with you.
We had a "friend of the family" stay here for a month when she was taking a course nearby.. (she is 18) what a Drama Queen she was... and truly a bit of a headcase if you asked me.
She was obsessed with guys... and what they thought of her, she wanted them all to want her, and would not rest if one seemed not interested... she would call and bug and try to do things to make them interested, then when finally they wanted to date her... she would stand them up.
She would come home wailing and throwing tantrums because some guy in her typing class didn't say hi to her at lunch.. she was totally self absorbed changing her clothes several times in the afternoon, evening, primping for any mirror she came across.
She was here for about 6 weeks (LONG weeks) and pretty well had a date every night of the week, (sometimes 2 in the same night!)
She would complain if they didn't buy her gifts, bring her flowers, or call her.. she was constantly on her cell phone - I don't know how she kept them all straight.
If I had heard this story and it was about this girl.(the one who stayed with us) I would be thinking she went up to the room and had sex with the boys and then they told her to get lost and she freaked with a temper tantrum and dramatics... "I will kill myself" drama queen for bring rejected and maybe they were laughing at her... and something happend that she fell.
Maybe she was murdered? Maybe she was drunk and fell... but we need to know more about the girl's character as well as the boys.
poco said:Right Cass, the old "friend of the family" story. I am glad to see though that you straightened your life out and have settled down. :clap:
Casshew said:Sounds like Imons is talking from personal experience.. at lots of it at that!