Huckaby defense seeks second Sandra Cantu autopsy

[SharetheLight]

I believe she (MH) is being represented by the state at the moment. The public defender who represented her at the arraignment will not be representing her in the future. From what I understand another PD has already been assigned to her case who I imagine is the one asking for a second autopsy. I'm pretty sure I heard her first PD say at the arraignment that she had conferred with MH just briefly prior to the proceedings... which would probably mean that she (PD) had just been assigned the case. i.e. The arraignment being her first order of business.

If the PD's office doesn't have it together enough to assign counsel timely, this could be the reason for the delayed request for a second autopsy.
I am not excusing this, I am angry about it, but I am trying to look at all the circumstances which may have resulted in the delayed request.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Lying for ten-plus days to cover up your involvement in a crime does not make you a "pathological" liar. It just means you don't want to get caught. The lying would have to be habitual in nature to be considered pathological and I don't recall any proof of this coming to light. Ten days and some change does not constitute "habitual". So nothing has been proven.

We have to be careful not to incite the mob mentality and go hunting for witches...

Well, MH's ex husband felt the allegations of abuse and domestic violence were lies and he stated that he did not even get to see these papers at the time as I recall from his interview today.

She has lied in this case. I have a feeling that lying comes very easy to MH.

I do not think there is a mob mentality here. And as for 'witches', the witch has been found and is in solitary confinement as we speak!

 

[QNA]

Well, MH's ex husband felt the allegations of abuse and domestic violence were lies and he stated that he did not even get to see these papers at the time as I recall from his interview today.

She has lied in this case. I have a feeling that lying comes very easy to MH. ...

Plausible. It's still his word against hers. However it does shed a little light on the subject and if proven would indicate a pathological trend.

... I do not think there is a mob mentality here. And as for 'witches', the witch has been found and is in solitary confinement as we speak!

Many innocent "witches" were burned at the stake with this same mentality years ago... let's wait for the evidence to surface before we light the match ok?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

And not a very good liar to boot. She was so transparent with those lies I could see right through them and the guilt was blinding to me.

 

[QNA]

True. But it does make you a liar.

...and he who has never told a lie, let him throw the first stone...

 

[JoeFromLB]

And not a very good liar to boot. She was so transparent with those lies I could see right through them and the guilt was blinding to me.

If Connie ends up testifying in court that the conversation about the suitcase never took place, MH is sunk.

Just speculation on my part at this point, but the whole suitcase-missing-from the driveway/lost cell phone/keys thing seems like a crock.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Many innocent "witches" were burned at the stake with this same mentality years ago... let's wait for the evidence to surface before we light the match ok?

I lit my match when I put together all the statements she made to the press in the first two interviews. It really wasn't difficult to decifer her lies or to figure out she was involved in Sandra's murder.

Originally posted by SeriouslySearching on 4-10-09

Melissa Huckaby admitted to:

1) Owning the suitcase in which Sandra's body was found.

2) Seeing Sandra at the time she went missing (last known person to see her alive).

3) Going to the church during the time Sandra went missing.

4) Admitting she has frequented the dump site where Sandra's body was found in HER suitcase.

5) Having a note which details the exact location of Sandra's body.

6) Having no alibi at the time Sandra went missing unless she was seen at the church by someone else.

 

[SharetheLight]

If Connie ends up testifying in court that the conversation about the suitcase never took place, MH is sunk.

Just speculation on my part at this point, but the whole suitcase-missing-from the driveway/lost cell phone/keys thing seems like a crock.

I agree and wonder did she take it initially, was it at the church, or did she go back for it??

 

[Salem]

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If Melissa Huckaby did kill Sandra, and I am pretty sure she did, it's too bad she could not have enough compassion to spare Sandra's family the horrific details that will be revealed in the trial. The decent thing to do would be to plead guilty.

And this is what her God-fearing family should be counseling her to do! Step up to the plate, take responsibility for what she has done and ask the Lord for forgiveness. She has broken one of the 10 commandments, in a church, a place of worship, peace and sanctity. If she did this and her family begins to act like the A's, I will be writing a weekly letter to the editor of the Tracy Press calling them all on their false religion.

Salem

 

[QNA]

If the PD's office doesn't have it together enough to assign counsel timely, this could be the reason for the delayed request for a second autopsy.
I am not excusing this, I am angry about it, but I am trying to look at all the circumstances which may have resulted in the delayed request.

Very plausible.

 

[SharetheLight]

I have never told a lie to law enforcement when questioned about a crime. That's the issue here. As Marc Klaas said, "The truth doesn't change".

I think this is the distinction. There is a difference between lying about something insignificant vs. lying to LE about a crime that was committed.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

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And this is what her God-fearing family should be counseling her to do! Step up to the plate, take responsibility for what she has done and ask the Lord for forgiveness. She has broken one of the 10 commandments, in a church, a place of worship, peace and sanctity. If she did this and her family begins to act like the A's, I will be writing a weekly letter to the editor of the Tracy Press calling them all on their false religion.

Salem

She has broken more than one!

Altho not confirmed by LE, she has supposedly confessed to it being an "accident". This would mean she admitted to being there at the time of Sandra's death and placing her in the suitcase etc.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think this is the distinction. There is a difference between lying about something insignificant vs. lying to LE about a crime that was committed.

I don't see a difference! Lying is lying. It means you are not credible in any situation. (If she lied previously to the court about her ex, it also means she has committed perjury.)

 

[Salem]

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If they are allowed to do a 2nd autopsy, I don't see it as a horrible thing. We all want justice for Sandra and her family. If this is part of putting the witch behind bars or to send her to death row then it becomes neccessary to move this case forward. We have to let the defense do their job in order to insure she receives a fair trial. It would be far worse to have Melissa back out in society later.

I hear what you are saying with my head, but my heart says if I was Sandra's mother, I would trade a push for the DP in order to keep the defense/defendant from touching my child again. I understand most of the legal mumbo jumbo, but when it comes to the emotions - they don't have to make sense, they are what they are, and I would be screaming out loud at the thought that this could be anywhere near my child again. I know - the won't be there - but again - the autopsy would be for HER benefit. I would stand in front of that mosoluem (sp?) and let my fury out on ANYONE who tried to get past me. And then they would take me to the hospital in a straight jacket

Putting the whole thing in the press doesn't help.

Salem

 

[warbuckle]

[Some defense lawyers make me angry! :behindbar[/QUOTE]

Thank you for saying "some". :blowkiss: They aren't all bad...especially this one :angel:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

A kidnapping/rape/molestation/murder trial is never easy or pleasant for the family of the victim. The right thing would be for Melissa to confess to everything she did and take LWOP which keeps the family from having to go through a trial. The problem only comes in when a defense attorney rears his/her ugly head and decides to fight against her telling the truth, imo.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Plausible. It's still his word against hers. However it does shed a little light on the subject and if proven would indicate a pathological trend.



Many innocent "witches" were burned at the stake with this same mentality years ago... let's wait for the evidence to surface before we light the match ok?

I see no one burning anyone 'at stake'. This is a forum and we are not required to wait for all the evidence to form an opinion. We are not in a courtroom here.

We have come a long way in this country and in our justice system since anyone was burned at stake. I just have to say that I do not understand your analogy with the witches. :waitasec:

 

[QNA]

I think this is the distinction. There is a difference between lying about something insignificant vs. lying to LE about a crime that was committed.

No I disagree. Anytime you deceive someone for your own benefit you are committing a sin. The circumstances surrounding that "lie" matter little in regards to distinction. The act itself is the transgression. Significance is relative.

 

[warbuckle]

A kidnapping/rape/molestation/murder trial is never easy or pleasant for the family of the victim. The right thing would be for Melissa to confess to everything she did and take LWOP which keeps the family from having to go through a trial. The problem only comes in when a defense attorney rears his/her ugly head and decides to fight against her telling the truth, imo.

It is about finding the truth, but I don't see it your way. If your client tells you it was an accident or they are innocent then you need to verify your client's statements. They are innocent until proven guilty. So if an atty's client says she is innocent, he/she should check it out. If that means getting a second autopsy then it should be done. Just because she has confessed to many suspicious things doesn't make her guilty of this crime. Look at the guy who claimed he killed JBR. He had inside info and looked freaky, but it turned out he didn't.

 

[KoldKase]

I haven't noticed any precedence wherein the defense gets to conduct their own autopsy.

Think of how that would go....

What victim and his/her family wouldn't feel doubly violated if defendants all got to demand their own autopsies. Once a precedence is set, it opens a floodgate. Graveyards all over opening up.

What's next? Defendants get to do physical GYN exams on rape victims?

I don't think this is going to happen.

This attorney isn't doing his/her job. He/she is asking to RAPE THE VICTIM AGAIN. Bastid.