GatorFL
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Yay!
On to the Tax trial.
On to the Tax trial.
Hunter Biden indicted, federal gun charges, Sept 2023
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I spent a few minutes rereading this thread from the beginning and I'm happy Biden was convicted on these charges. It's quite a read since there was a lot of influence from the DOJ to just ignore these crimes. There was almost a sweetheart plea deal to make the gun charges and the tax charges-and any potential future charges-go away forever. In essence giving Hunter Biden blanket immunity. However a wise Judge decided that was not appropriate.
The charges he was convicted of are moderately serious. I'm interested to see what his sentence will be.
The tax charges are far more serious and if convicted he will do some Federal time. Unless pardoned.
And no sarcastic font needed, but I for one am glad that charges were filed for very real laws being broken. And even happier for this conviction.
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The charges he was convicted of are moderately serious. I'm interested to see what his sentence will be.
The tax charges are far more serious and if convicted he will do some Federal time. Unless pardoned.
And no sarcastic font needed, but I for one am glad that charges were filed for very real laws being broken. And even happier for this conviction.
JMO
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MOO I am glad Hunter was convicted and will face consequences. I was also very glad to see that while President Biden offered his son moral support as a father, <modsnip - off topic> 
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Statement from President Biden: "As I said last week, I am the President, but I am also a Dad. Jill and I love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today. So many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery. As I also said last week, I will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as Hunter considers an appeal. Jill and I will always be there for Hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. Nothing will ever change that."
Statement from President Biden: "As I said last week, I am the President, but I am also a Dad. Jill and I love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today. So many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery. As I also said last week, I will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as Hunter considers an appeal. Jill and I will always be there for Hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. Nothing will ever change that."
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Dignified response to a humbling situation. jmo
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So Hunter will most likely use the Second Amendment in an appeal using conservative justices views on it.
I love it. JMO.
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Conceal carry revolvers usually lack thumb *advertiser censored* so as to not accidentally *advertiser censored* the gun pulling out of your pocket or purse. MooDifference in geography, for certain, and related demographics.
Mr. Williams had a hunting rifle in rural West Virginia, where imho many people own hunting rifles. Not in WV myself, but for families in my area, a hunting rifle is a tool used to feed one's family.
Hunter Biden, iirc, lived in urban Washington, D.C. imho few people in the District own a concealable Colt Cobra .38 Special. A concealable Colt Cobra .38 Special is a snub-barrel revolver that literally fits in your pocket. A concealable firearm is a likely choice for personal protection & home defense.
Not sure the precise model Hunter selected, but here is an image:
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Colt Cobra 38 Special 2in Stainless Revolver - 6 Rounds
Colt Cobra 38 Special 2in Stainless Revolver - 6 Rounds -The Colt Cobra established Colt's triumphant return to the world of double-action revolvers. Its small frame and 2in barrel make it ideal for concealed carry. The Cobra is chambered in .38 Special and is +P capable, with a rubber wrapped...www.sportsmans.com
The Colt could be carried past anyone's game camera undetected. Another difference....
jmho ymmv lrr
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Lol. Dummy me didn't even realize I used an outlawed word!
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I wouldn't be surprised to see probation. HB is not a violent criminal. No crimes were committed with the gun, he purchased it for protection. It wasn't his fault his GF, sister in law threw it away in the trash.
Still, it is a felony conviction. Are there mandatory minimum sentences for his charges?
Still, it is a felony conviction. Are there mandatory minimum sentences for his charges?
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It's hurting my brain trying to figure out what you wrote, lol.
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A Cobra has an exposed hammer.
Interesting tidbit on the Colt Cobra. It was the same model of gun Jack Ruby shot and killed Lee Harvey Oswald with.
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These aren’t charges that are typically brought to trial. Most drug addicts don’t have a laptop trail like Hunter.
IANAL but the 2nd Amendment defense isn’t going to hold water.
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I really think that HB needs to sell the rights to his biography for a movie. It would be absolutely a hit. Everything to make the perfect Hollywood movie. I am trying to imagine the end though...
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That explains the exposed hammer. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Indeed. Most refreshing IMO.
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White House does not rule out Hunter Biden commutation
A White House spokeswoman said she could not comment on whether Joe Biden would commute a sentence for his son.
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The White House isn't ruling out a potential commutation for Hunter Biden after his conviction
The White House isn't ruling out a potential commutation for Hunter Biden, the president’s son who was convicted on three federal gun crimes and is set to be snetenced by a judge in the coming months.
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The Supreme Court is requiring an appeals court to review a ruling on a case with the same charge Hunter was charged with.
This is kind of hard to follow, but what I'm getting out of the story is that if the appeals court decides it's not legal to restrict gun ownership if someone has a drug problem, then it could also affect Hunter's conviction.
MOO
What am I missing?
This is kind of hard to follow, but what I'm getting out of the story is that if the appeals court decides it's not legal to restrict gun ownership if someone has a drug problem, then it could also affect Hunter's conviction.
MOO
What am I missing?
Supreme Court orders another review of gun charge behind Hunter Biden's conviction
The Supreme Court told another defendant convicted of the same gun charge as Hunter Biden to have his conviction reviewed again at the appeals court.
www.usatoday.com
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This is my take (and it might not be correct - I welcome corrections):The Supreme Court is requiring an appeals court to review a ruling on a case with the same charge Hunter was charged with.
This is kind of hard to follow, but what I'm getting out of the story is that if the appeals court decides it's not legal to restrict gun ownership if someone has a drug problem, then it could also affect Hunter's conviction.
MOO
What am I missing?
Supreme Court orders another review of gun charge behind Hunter Biden's conviction
The Supreme Court told another defendant convicted of the same gun charge as Hunter Biden to have his conviction reviewed again at the appeals court.www.usatoday.com
Law says can't own fire arm if a drug user.
Someone was convicted for having gun as a drug user.
Conviction appealed all the way to Supreme Court.
Meanwhile, Supreme Court ruled domestic abusers can keep guns.
Supreme Court sent appeal about drug users owning guns back to lower court.
While this is happening, Hunter was convicted as drug user owning a gun and is appealing his conviction.
It's still a bit of a mess, imo, and likely will remain so for awhile.
jmo
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Thanks for your thoughts. Yes, it does seem like a bit of a mess.
I wonder if Hunter's conviction would be thrown out if the courts determine it's not constitutional to ban drug users from owning firearms.
I mean, he lied on the application, but if it's determined that question should never have been on the application...
It's pretty confusing.