What is Lotties' Lounge - a bar? Who frequents that place? Is it
possible some drunk hit one or both of them then threw them into his
vehicle to cover it up ....
That's a misprint. It should be Loftys Lounge. They have a facebook page.
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What is Lotties' Lounge - a bar? Who frequents that place? Is it
possible some drunk hit one or both of them then threw them into his
vehicle to cover it up ....
maybe down a little ways on the other side :waitasec: Couldn't that be interpreted as meaning "down a little ways on the other side of the street?" Crossing Lafayette is no big deal, it's still close, just across the street. The map makes it look far, but it's really close. Many people walk back and forth across it from one business to another. It would still be very close to home.
Heather strikes me as a literal person, so if she said bones, I suspect that she meant bones.
That's a misprint. It should be Loftys Lounge. They have a facebook page.
Oh no, this just caught my attention also..............the bar! Did they know someone that worked there.......could of given them treats.....groomed them?People go in and out of the back doors of bars as much as the front door,
especially if they have been there before! Its almost a badge of honor!
One's private entrance! Kids who have been there before and were known
wouldnt have an hesitation about using the back door, from the alley, off
their bikes ... especially in small towns. Ive seen this done a million times
having grown up in just such a small rural town. You lean your bike up
against the fence or building and just go in ... you are a regular and
known, even as a kid (10 years old)! As a kid you feel completely
comfortable doing that .... risk never enters your mind. You are known
and a regular ...
That place really grabs my attention in terms of these girls ... you might
not want anything or a glass of water (or chips), or just to look around ..
its part of your world ... and your world is safe, you assume as a kid!
My eyes went to the same place! Plausible scenario.
This place might be opportunistic in that it attracts the right/wrong
people, offers enough seclusion, no camera ... and seclusion plus a place
with undesirables may be key here... vs. a mall parking lot which is far
more open and has more ordinary people to see things happening.
Has LE interviewed the people who were at this place during the critical
hour ?
What is Lotties' Lounge - a bar? Who frequents that place? Is it
possible some drunk hit one or both of them then threw them into his
vehicle to cover it up ....
Oh no, this just caught my attention also..............the bar! Did they know someone that worked there.......could of given them treats.....groomed them?
a couple of guys watched them? This has my hinky meter on alert!
drugs and bars and men??????
Correction- I think Reds is that tan/brown building tot the left of Loftys.
Oh no, this just caught my attention also..............the bar! Did they know someone that worked there.......could of given them treats.....groomed them?
a couple of guys watched them? This has my hinky meter on alert!
drugs and bars and men??????
Did that alley offer a short cut the girls might take, especially since it
goes behind that bar - an interesting place with activity to the girls?
When I was a kid biking we took every alley we could find between our
regular street routes ... partly curiosity and very often a perceived short
cut for us kids ...
I believe its Loftys, not Lotties. I THINK.it's still a bar, although there is newly opened restaurant near there called Red's. Not sure if its the same building or not. I do remember paring alongside the building, and directly behind is a business - I think a trucking company - and ive always wondered if they had surveillance cameras. I didn't notice any, though. There was a truck parked there, I assume the owner's, andthe entire back window was the missing poster. Just Fyi.
On that note, LE once said that they have hours of videotape, but they had no idea of what they were looking for, and they needed help, like a certain vehicle to look for. I have never heard of anything to come of that.
I'm just taking it for granted they did, I don't know. Not unusual for kids in this town to go into these hometown bars that serve food, and I'm curious as to why a block off their "normal" route is written off so easily.
Of ALL the places in that area, that place has opportunity,
especially for an innocent child unaware and not operating with
adult awareness. Things could wrong in a split instant with the
child never expecting they were at risk... all it takes is the wrong
adult person. Two girls abducted takes more explaining but behind the
palce in relative seclusion it could be over with in a minute, literally?
Everyone's attention has been at Myers Lake as the abduction site
when in reality it may have been much closer to home, in the very narrow
time frame the video shows, in a place which offers the right kinds of
people, seclusion, time, ... and the game is on.
When I first saw the speed at which those girls were moving in that video
two things rung out to me - either being chased, or, typical kids riding
pell-mell oblivious and having a good time as kids do, and that adds up to
"unaware of risk" as kids often operate ... then down the alley as a short
cut or place of interest, behind the bar, maybe stop, maybe into the bar,
and opportunity and someone ceases the opportunity for whatever
reason, and the kids are in instant trouble -
If I were LE I would be all over the people who were in that bar at that
hour! For all we know those people who were there may be discussing this
in private and exploring what-ifs as we write here! (especially if they saw
the girls there prior to abduction which the rest of the world is saying happened
later, at a Lake far removed from this scene). It needs exploring if this is a viable
option -
Who was in that bar at that time and have they been interviewed?
Oh, and FWIW, that small "strip mall" seems to have been about half empty. Even the post office had shut down was was vacant since the previous October! In short, a relatively 'desolate' spot, in a way.