Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #34

[sumzero]

But it's a very rare occurrence--to have someone hit accidentally, and then the driver takes the body and hides it. I'm also totally baffled by why people who proposed that theory are saying:,"I got it right!" There's nothing in the evidence his confession that points toward that being a viable theory.

+1000

 

[PommyMommy]

Hi All !! I am posting this beautiful tribute to Mollie that was written by one of her friends. ***( I have author's Approval AND Approval from the MODS here on WS to post this)****
The Author's words are their personal thoughts and feelings but written with the hopes of sharing the message so that those that didn't know Mollie personally could see her how her friends saw her.

***The world we live in is unjust. There are no certainties other than that it’s unfair. It harbors dark places in which evil lies. It is a cruel place that can break you down moment after moment. It is one of great sorrow. The world we live in is also wonderful. It brings us to people that care about you and you can care about in return. It has hearts full of nothing but joy and kindness. It’s a place that you find support no matter the situation. It is one of much love.

I know Mollie because I had the inexplicably lucky opportunity to work along side her for a day camp in which she devoted her heart to. My journey of friendship with Mollie began specifically on Thursday, June 14th when I was attempting to draw a couple of coworkers (not very well I might add) and she sat beside me and initiated a conversation of what details I had lacked in adding or what was spot on. Needless to say the drawings amounted to little more than hilariously drawn people that were supposed to be coworkers. More importantly, something else had happened. A spark of new friendship with someone I’d never met before had begun.

The next day I wanted to make an impression on my newfound friend so I bought her a McDonalds caramel frappe because she had made a comment the day before that she would “looooove it” if someone went and got her coffee. This act surprised her as a kid who she just met had bought her this as essentially a sign of wanting a friendship.

The next few weeks continued and I began to connect with her through our love of theatre and avid enjoyment of running. Her involvement and care for the kids at the day camp was heartfelt and compassionate. I hoped one day I’d be able to connect to the kids as well as she had.

My next big bonding moment with Mollie came when I was casually singing Whitney Houston to myself and she heard me and began to sign along as well. I remember vividly walking into work one morning after a fairly difficult swim practice, not ready for the day whatsoever, and as soon as I opened the door she shouted from down the hall “DON’T YOU WANNA DANCE, SAY YOU WANNA DANCE!” to which I appropriately replied with the response of “DANCE! WITH ME BOY!”. This became a common ritual as we both loved the song and we loved the way the children looked at us like we were weirdos.

All of us at the day camp are comedic legends in my eyes. A common phrase that was used between us was “She is beauty. She is grace. She is Miss United States” This phrase never made sense whenever it was used but we all loved it. One time, a photo was posted on our group chat and someone began the saying with “She is beauty. She is grace” to which I immediately chimed in “Mollie is shorter than cinco seis”. I found this immensely funny and laughed for days at my own clever wittiness. Mollie’s height was a thing that always got pointed out, usually by myself, and it became a running gag of how I could point it out each day. We’re both very huggy people and our heights complimented each other.

On the last day I saw Mollie, Wednesday, July 18th, she brought me a caramel frappe. She was so excited. She was like “HEY! I finally bought you one!”

Thursday, July 19th had a rainy morning. Swim practice got canceled and I went out to breakfast with my cousin and I remember thinking it was odd that I hadn’t received one of Mollie’s usual morning “Fact of the day” snapchats yet. The day went on and she never showed up and our concern level had gotten high. Mollie was announced a missing person and thus began the longest month. I remember that weekend I did not want to go back to the day camp because all I had were memories of her there and the pain of not seeing her would be to great. We did go back and we pushed through together. I realized that I didn’t want to be anywhere but the day camp because when there, I was surrounded by warm and happy memories of you. A new sense of hope was in our hearts and we weren’t giving up on you no matter what.

Eventually one week became two. Two became three and so on, until we reached today. Today, Tuesday, August 21st, I woke up to the most utterly gut wrenching news I could imagine. Mollie was gone. I received an absolute massive amounts of messages about condolence and sympathies. I didn’t open them because I knew once I read those messages and responded to my friends, it would all become real for me. I felt as if the air we’d all had to hold our breath all of this time had just been sucked out, leaving nothing but pain. I didn’t know what to do as no details had yet been released, so I did the one thing I could. I went to McDonald’s, bought a caramel Frappe, went to the location of the day camp where we worked, and listened to the silence as I let every memory come likes waves in the ocean. I went through the motions of the rest of the day until I went and stargazed. There, I felt close to your soul.

As I draw closer to the end of this writing I want to talk about Wonder Woman, more specifically a quote from it. In the Film’s climactic end battle, Wonder Woman is faced with the reality that evil things in the world are not, in fact, as a result of an evil force that, once defeated, will cause all evil in the world to go away. She realizes that a choice between doing good and evil resides in each and every one of us and it’s how we make that choice of choosing that determines how our world continues. Mollie saw the good in everyone and encouraged them to be the best possible “them” they could. With that, I believe it’s up to us to choose to do good and see the good in people as Mollie did.

I’ll be honest, I wish I could keep writing this forever because I know once I stop, I’ll have to continue in a world that doesn’t get to make more memories with you. A friendship like the one I experienced with you is something I never expected to have or know I needed. This pain will never disappear, but I know it too will get better and life will continue. I’ll think of you often as you’ve shaped the way I view the world in my eyes. To quote the Golden Girls, “It’s been an experience that I’ll hold very close to my heart, and these are memories that I’ll wrap myself in when the world gets cold and I forget that there are people who are warm and kind.”

I love you Mollie

What a beautiful tribute. Thank you so much for sharing this with us.

 

[jillycat]

The odds of an insanity defense working are close to 0%.

Even if someone is psychotic it is almost 0%. For instance a person could be delusion and think her husband is the mafia. That does not meet legal insanity defense, because she is still aware her husband (even if he is mafia) is a human being.

No idea what his lawyer will contrive, but I see nothing but a cold calculating individual who did exactly what he wanted to do that night.

 

[EaglesSpeical]

It is a good thing he had a translator. Most courts require a translator if any question at all exists about a complete and fluent understanding of the English language. It avoids appeals on that basis. As a civil court federal trial attorney with many years of experience, I have seen this procedure employed by judges to avoid an appealable issue based on language barrier despite a witness or party appearing to completely understand the language.

 

[Alethea]

Whenever the Defense is weak, that's when the other tactics are tried. They seldom work. It's a long long long shot to claim temporary insanity, or racism, or something else totally unrelated to the case. Last gasp and everyone knows it.

It infuriates us... but really never works.

An old legal adage: "When you don't have the facts, you argue the law. When you don't have the law, you argue for the public good. When you don't have the facts, the law, or the public good, you pound the table and yell like hell."

 

[Stormy21]

The client doesn’t have to pay the attorney. I suspect that tons of money will be raised for CR’s defense.

Actually the client has to pay his defender if the defender is court appointed. Unless the attorney agrees to pro bono. I suspect the Iowa defender's office will have to reimburse this attorney at a minimal rate.

https://spd.iowa.gov/indigent-clients/faqs

 

[curvecuti]

His private attorney will be upgraded

Upgraded? To what? A super secret private attorney?

 

[MsBetsy]

IMO probably some drugs involved. Not for any reason other than I don’t feel he has the “qualities” of a true stalker/killer. JMO

The qualities or the motivation?

 

[Inthedetails]

Anyone know the name of this guys employer?

It's been in the news today. Scroll down this article and the name of the farm and the owners are there: Immigrant suspected of murdering Mollie Tibbetts passed background check: Farm

 

[Inspector Gidget]

I would love to know if the car was in his name.It is not easy to get over on DMV.They require much documentation after 9/11.Not to mention license and registration.

 

[Jeng1810]

The qualities or the motivation?

Probably a lack of both.

 

[Seattle1]

Anyone know the name of this guys employer?

Yarabee farms. See the media thread for details.

 

[Alethea]

I disagree; I think I read that when the other migrant workers were question by LE; they thought they were from ICE.

If I don't want to get arrested for shoplifting, I don't shoplift. I don't steal and then kill the check-out person.

I don't understand the argument here. If he didn't want to get deported, he could have driven away and never touched her.

 

[jpo74]

His private attorney will be upgraded


He will get the best legals; it's a high profile case.

Who pays? Taxpayers?

 

[cvaldez1975]

Will there be a jury involved in this case?? Do we know that yet?

its way too soon to know. we don't know if he will plead guilty, or ask for a trial by judge. he hasn't even had a prelim

 

[SuperTmo]

I don't think he killed her because he was afraid of deportation. But, her threatening to call the cops might have enraged him all the more because he thought he could be deported.

BUT....this was a crime of rage from start to finish - and he didn't really need a rational reason to be enraged. He was primed and ready to be enraged. If the thought of deportation enraged him, that was just one aspect of the crime, imo.

I don't think he thought - I'm going to be deported so I'll kill her. I think he was acting more primal than that. He was going to hurt her no matter what she said.

jmo

Yep, exactly. His citizenship doesn’t matter at all. He is defective and chose to do this because he wanted to. He would have done it anywhere he lived.

 

[Stormy21]

His private attorney will be upgraded


He will get the best legals; it's a high profile case.

Doubt it. I could see where an attorney, if it is ethical, advise to plead guilty. Although I am not sure what kind of plea bargain he could ask for.

This isn't the Scopes Trial.

 

[MsBetsy]

I almost think he discussed what he did with someone before he went to the police. He doesn't like he could have come up with this story on his own. MOO

I think he just grabbed bits and pieces from sources. Everyone knows the" I must have blacked out" excuse.

 

[chihuahua]

As far as an insanity plea, he hid her body (alive or dead) in his trunk.
Then he covered her in "corn leaves" at the scene.
Maybe even after they zeroed in on him via the camera pix, he may have thought the reward could go to his family or his daughter.
We all know that even Dahmer was found sane.
So he possibly planned, and he hid his actions from police and others.
In order to be adjudicated insane he would have to be bold enough to have done the same actions in front of a police officer, technically.
Or anyone around for that matter.
I don't anger easily, and I am working at trying to locate a 20 yr old girl out of Florida, but this has really angered and upset me.
jmo

 

[Veracity]

Well I wonder how many "forgotten" assaults he has committed in the last 4 to 7 years he has been here. I think his amnesia might disqualify him from using the NO prior asaults--I won't even go to killings

I couldn't help but wonder if his attorney was wanting a media blackout and gag order to prevent anyone else from coming forward?